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Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Vivisectus wrote: »
    You'd have to take them out first :P

    Well they can take their own heads out, I can't do it for them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭jooksavage


    SILVAMAN wrote: »
    Found them unclear and lightly printed.
    Ought to have in capped bold print the generic name of the issue on the reverse.

    As MrWalshpointed out, there's too much text, and it's made worse by the fact it's in English and Irish (and yes I know it's our national tongue and we should be ashamed that we're not fluent...)

    As you say, I think printing the name of the ref on the reverse is a good idea. In practical terms, "marriage equality: yes/no" should suffice. If someone isn't familiar with the issue at this stage, they shouldn't be entitled to a vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Voted at 7.30. Yes from myself and the wife is voting Yes later. Have to say, it would be fantastic if it passed but I've been fearing the worst over the last couple of days. I've been surrounded by a lot of no voters or people not willing to vote because 'it'll open a can of worms' recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Whosthis wrote: »
    Double yes. I had intended voting no in the presidential referendum but the ballot papers only say 34th and 35th amendment and i didn't know which was which.

    Edit: At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, why do they provide pencils in the booths and not pens?

    I wondered the very same thing the first time I voted here? Pencils?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Just been in done my part there was a queue in my polling station just there now which is great either way


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I think the inner conflict arises from clinging on to a long-held belief that one 'feels' to be true, but that is difficult to defend rationally or intellectually.


    I believe marriage is between a man and a woman only. I don't have to change my opinion whether it is a yes or no vote.
    For msot there is not this conflict, just people don't want hassle.

    You see it here as in the above quote. No people are more tolerant of Yes voters than Yes are of No voters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Merry Prankster


    MrWalsh wrote: »
    I still have a few, I'll post you one if you like?

    Do you know where to get them in Dublin? I'm gonna get my sister to grab a few today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voted at 7.30. Yes from myself and the wife is voting Yes later. Have to say, it would be fantastic if it passed but I've been fearing the worst over the last couple of days. I've been surrounded by a lot of no voters or people not willing to vote because 'it'll open a can of worms' over the last couple of days.

    I hear you but I think a lot of the No voters are just not going to bother voting- it doesn't effect many/any of them in the slightest and there's nothing in it either way for many of them .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    jooksavage wrote: »
    Anyone else think the ballot slips could have been a bit more straightforward?

    Definitley.

    You could actually see how an individual could mix up both referendums..

    And to be honest,the Irish interpretation,
    makes it more difficult,and I am sure confusing for certain sections of the electorate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I believe marriage is between a man and a woman only. I don't have to change my opinion whether it is a yes or no vote.
    For msot there is not this conflict, just people don't want hassle.

    You see it here as in the above quote. No people are more tolerant of Yes voters than Yes are of No voters.

    Non-sense. If No-voters were "tolerant" of Yes voters in the first place, they wouldn't be voting No. This victim card is getting old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I believe marriage is between a man and a woman only. I don't have to change my opinion whether it is a yes or no vote.

    So if you get invited to a same sex wedding you won't attend then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    gladrags wrote: »
    Definitley.

    You could actually see how an individual could mix up both referendums..

    And to be honest,the Irish interpretation,
    makes it more difficult,and I am sure confusing for certain sections of the electorate.

    Yea, too much writing on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    road_high wrote: »
    I hear you but I think a lot of the No voters are just not going to bother voting- it doesn't effect many/any of them in the slightest and there's nothing in it either way for many of them .

    It doesn't affect a lot of Yes voters but they're still going to go out and vote. I guess I've had my faith shaken by people who were Yes voters right up until the last couple of days who now won't vote. The No voters are going to be less indecisive about their stance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    gandalf wrote: »
    So if you get invited to a same sex wedding you won't attend then?

    I doubt anybody would be too cut up tbh....he sounds like mad craic :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    Do you know where to get them in Dublin? I'm gonna get my sister to grab a few today.

    I dunno, I can post you a couple?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Connorzee


    A lot of "Vote Yes" scratched and wrote into the wooden voting box that i was in (In a school). I notified the people at the table so i suppose they took action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Vivisectus


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I believe marriage is between a man and a woman only. I don't have to change my opinion whether it is a yes or no vote.
    For msot there is not this conflict, just people don't want hassle.

    You see it here as in the above quote. No people are more tolerant of Yes voters than Yes are of No voters.

    One could argue that this is because the yes voters have some intolerance to not tolerate. Intolerance, which, incidentally, takes the form of asking them to not just ave an opinion, but to support it with rational arguments.

    Oh, the intolerance of it all!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    RobertKK wrote: »
    No people are more tolerant of Yes voters than Yes are of No voters.

    I have to challenge that ascertion.
    If there is a Yes vote your opinion of marriage and mine will both be recognised in law.
    If there is a No vote only your opinion of what constitutes a marriage will be recognised.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭jooksavage


    Voted at 7.30. Yes from myself and the wife is voting Yes later. Have to say, it would be fantastic if it passed but I've been fearing the worst over the last couple of days. I've been surrounded by a lot of no voters or people not willing to vote because 'it'll open a can of worms' over the last couple of days.

    Sister voted in our old primary school at 8.30 in rural Tipp this morning. Said there were 3 women arriving having come from a night vigil to pray for a no vote. A bit disheartening alright. Still, they're not representative of the average voter down here and I'm quietly confident the Yes' will have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elfy4eva


    Double yes from our household, we've decided our votes will personally be canceling out David Quinn's and John water's respectively. :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭PandaPoo


    We won't be voting until this evening. I feel like everyone is judging me because they know I haven't voted :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    RobertKK wrote: »
    No people are more tolerant of Yes voters than Yes are of No voters.

    That's why the Chairman of Iona came out and said Mary McAleese was a bad Catholic for calling for votes against God's Law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Vote done nad happy to do it.

    If your a silent no and been feeling embarrassed about saying your on the no side have a quick word with yourself and ask why you are embarrassed.



    Sorry if that's construed as bullying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    This referendum will pass it has the might of the state behind it - all political parties, a former president, the Gardai, the GAA's GPA, the rich and famous, the IDA, Google, Twitter and other multinationals, the media with soft interviews of Yes. David Quinn was asked how he voted on the divorce which was irrelevant, how did homosexual people come about, a tweet that was taken out of context and only brought up by a Yes campaigner months after just as the campaign for the referendum began.

    It will be a miracle if Yes don't win this. I would bet my house and other assets on it being a Yes vote. Think it will be 60% Yes, 40% No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭jooksavage


    elfy4eva wrote: »
    Double yes from our household, we've decided our votes will personally be canceling out David Quinn's and John water's respectively. :P

    LOL. The true value of democracy has never been so beautifully summarized!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    RobertKK wrote: »
    This referendum will pass it has the might of the state behind it - all political parties, a former president, the Gardai, the GAA's GPA, the rich and famous, the IDA, Google, Twitter and other multinationals, the media with soft interviews of Yes.

    Everyone's out of step but my Johnny!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Connorzee wrote: »
    A lot of "Vote Yes" scratched and wrote into the wooden voting box that i was in (In a school). I notified the people at the table so i suppose they took action.

    I totally disagree with people doing this. Crap thing to do and gives yes voters a bad name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Hermy wrote: »
    I have to challenge that ascertion.
    If there is a Yes vote your opinion of marriage and mine will both be recognised in law.
    If there is a No vote only your opinion of what constitutes a marriage will be recognised.


    No, a Yes vote does not recognise what I believe marriage to be, which is an expanded definition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Everyone's out of step but my Johnny!

    We will see how many people reject all of these tomorrow.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    That's why the Chairman of Iona came out and said Mary McAleese was a bad Catholic for calling for votes against God's Law.

    When I was a little boy I was always taught that God was all powerful.
    I presume that isn't the case anymore or else why are Iona people even bothering to vote.
    Or if God is still the all powerful one he used to be how did this referendum come into being?
    Could it perhaps be his will?
    And if it passes does that mean Iona and 'the church' were wrong about Gods attitude to same sex marriage?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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