Wetherspoons For Waterford

hardybuck · 07-01-2015 7:22pm

thomasm wrote: »

If that's what you think I reckon your missing out. Almost all my mates will not touch heineken, bud, carlsberg anymore after gradually moving to craft beers. Most of them thought it was a load of nonsense at first but wont go back now. Nothing to do with marketing, all about taste.

Craft Beer is a general term really used to describe the brewer more than anything else. Within that you've got stuff like Pale Ale, Cream Ales, Dark Ales, Blonde Ales, IPA's, Weissbeers....there is a huge variety in styles and tastes within that list along.

dzilla · 07-01-2015 10:02pm

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

that's the biggest load of BS ever, you really are falling for the marketing if you believe that.

I would be curious to see the total cost of marketing that the combined micro-brewarys of ireland spend compared to heineken alone. I would imagine it to be insignificant.

Adyx · 07-01-2015 10:58pm

dzilla wrote: »

I would be curious to see the total cost of marketing that the combined micro-brewarys of ireland spend compared to heineken alone. I would imagine it to be insignificant.

They spent 2 million on their current glasses alone (presumably this includes design, marketing, the special coolers etc) and they break if you so much as look at them funny. Absolute crap and hated by pretty much every bartender I know.

dzilla · 08-01-2015 9:27am

Adyx wrote: »

They spent 2 million on their current glasses alone (presumably this includes design, marketing, the special coolers etc) and they break if you so much as look at them funny. Absolute crap and hated by pretty much every bartender I know.

There was big resistance to the new tall Heineken glasses as opposed to the older fatter glasses. Think they are not as easy to keep stacked etc

run_Forrest_run · 08-01-2015 10:25am

thomasm wrote: »

If that's what you think I reckon your missing out. Almost all my mates will not touch heineken, bud, carlsberg anymore after gradually moving to craft beers. Most of them thought it was a load of nonsense at first but wont go back now. Nothing to do with marketing, all about taste.

Wow, you mentioned all lagers...such a tiny segment in the market.

I've tasted many a craft beer and I like a few of them, as said here already, a nice hoppy tasting beer can be lovely to sip etc but I also like some 'mass produced' beers.

Don't think for one minute that a lot of these 'craft' beers wouldn't convert themselves into a mass produced product if they had the chance.

run_Forrest_run · 08-01-2015 10:45am

00sully wrote: »

name some distinct flavours from heineken? now name some from budweiser and carlsberg and compare

if your answer is "beer" and that's all you can taste then you just have a poor palate

have you tasted any efforts from microbrewries rather than mass produced beer that uses inferior ingredients to save money (hops being the most expensive that are found in higher quantities in IPA's) and actively go to great lengths to ensure a consistent taste in every single country in the world.

sure let's all go abroad to experience the world for a holiday and head straight to the Irish pub for a pint of guinness! it'll be like we never left arf :pac:

Who said anything about going to Irish pubs when abroad? Don't let your point down with silly comments like that.

Tell me, what do you call a microbrewery?
Don't be so hung up on size (or the lack of it in your case).

I've tasted many a beer that might be termed 'craft' in this part of the world, I'm especially fond of a lot of the stuff produced by Sierra Nevada (more hops than Skippy) but hey, maybe their stuff is too mass produced so it's not cool enough for you.

I like a beer (Ales, Lager, Stout etc) for their taste, don't get sucked into the marketing snobbery which just inflates the prices, production numbers don't matter and at the end of the day the small producers are not small because of choice.

00sully · 08-01-2015 12:05pm

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

Who said anything about going to Irish pubs when abroad? Don't let your point down with silly comments like that.

Tell me, what do you call a microbrewery?
Don't be so hung up on size (or the lack of it in your case).

I've tasted many a beer that might be termed 'craft' in this part of the world, I'm especially fond of a lot of the stuff produced by Sierra Nevada (more hops than Skippy) but hey, maybe their stuff is too mass produced so it's not cool enough for you.

I like a beer (Ales, Lager, Stout etc) for their taste, don't get sucked into the marketing snobbery which just inflates the prices, production numbers don't matter and at the end of the day the small producers are not small because of choice.

fair enough. Sierra Nevada is one of my favourites so I should say multi-national corporations who are unwilling to add flavour / differential tastes (Diagio, Heineken) to their brews versus "craft" breweries who are not afraid to try new tastes. That's the real distinction I was trying to make rather than small vs. large

so taste vs tasteless then :pac:

run_Forrest_run · 08-01-2015 2:33pm

00sully wrote: »

fair enough. Sierra Nevada is one of my favourites so I should say multi-national corporations who are unwilling to add flavour / differential tastes (Diagio, Heineken) to their brews versus "craft" breweries who are not afraid to try new tastes. That's the real distinction I was trying to make rather than small vs. large

so taste vs tasteless then :pac:

OK, point taken Sully, we'll agree over a bottle of Torpedo

jennygirl · 08-01-2015 8:02pm

Craft Beer are usually produced in small volumes with high value ingredients, (usually 10-20 % of the selling price of the beer), world beers are International beers introduced into the Irish Markets ie, Erdinger, Spaten, Staropromen
Craft Beers include -
Metalman - http://www.metalmanbrewing.com/
Dungarvan Beers - http://dungarvanbrewingcompany.com/
Eight Degrees - http://www.eightdegrees.ie/tag/irish-craft-beer/
Bru - http://www.brubrewery.ie/
Rascals brewing http://rascalsbrewing.com/
Blacks of Kinsale http://blacksbrewery.com/
Mountain Man Beers http://www.mountainmanbrewing.com/site/
Real Deal - Mayo http://reeldeelbrewery.ie/
White Hag - Sligo http://thewhitehag.com/
and im sure there are loads more -

Highflyer13 · 08-01-2015 8:05pm

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

that's the biggest load of BS ever, you really are falling for the marketing if you believe that.

The irony of your comment is off the richter scale.:pac: Heineken and co are masters of marketing considering the mass produced overrated sh!te they sell at extortionate prices.

MentalMario · 08-01-2015 10:32pm

There's two types of beer.

Good beer and bad beer.

I've tasted 'craft beer' that has been poor and I've tasted mass produced stuff that's been decent. Stella in Belgium is outstanding. Possibly because it's so close to the brewery but it's really nice.

My beer of choice is made by the Dungarvan Brewing company when drinking at home or my first choice when out is Metalman.

Although I'd drink a lot less of mass produced stuff I'd still drink it. It just wouldn't be my first choice.

dzilla · 09-01-2015 8:58am

MentalMario wrote: »

There's two types of beer.

Good beer and bad beer.

I've tasted 'craft beer' that has been poor and I've tasted mass produced stuff that's been decent. Stella in Belgium is outstanding. Possibly because it's so close to the brewery but it's really nice.

My beer of choice is made by the Dungarvan Brewing company when drinking at home or my first choice when out is Metalman.

Although I'd drink a lot less of mass produced stuff I'd still drink it. It just wouldn't be my first choice.

I am the same, metal man out and Dungarvan at home. However if I was at a match or a wedding Id go on the Heineken or Carlsberg!

run_Forrest_run · 09-01-2015 3:00pm

Highflyer13 wrote: »

The irony of your comment is off the richter scale.:pac: Heineken and co are masters of marketing considering the mass produced overrated sh!te they sell at extortionate prices.

But I was never defending the mass producers.

The Bowling Alley · 09-01-2015 3:31pm

Any chance of a fresh thread about beer in Waterford. Everytime I see this thread light up I think it's some news about Wetherspoons.

wellboytoo · 09-01-2015 3:49pm

jennygirl wrote: »

Craft Beer are usually produced in small volumes with high value ingredients, (usually 10-20 % of the selling price of the beer), world beers are International beers introduced into the Irish Markets ie, Erdinger, Spaten, Staropromen
Craft Beers include -
Metalman - http://www.metalmanbrewing.com/
Dungarvan Beers - http://dungarvanbrewingcompany.com/
Eight Degrees - http://www.eightdegrees.ie/tag/irish-craft-beer/
Bru - http://www.brubrewery.ie/
Rascals brewing http://rascalsbrewing.com/
Blacks of Kinsale http://blacksbrewery.com/
Mountain Man Beers http://www.mountainmanbrewing.com/site/
Real Deal - Mayo http://reeldeelbrewery.ie/
White Hag - Sligo http://thewhitehag.com/
and im sure there are loads more -

You missed the biggest one, Carlow Brewing http://www.carlowbrewing.com/our-beers/

taytobreath · 09-01-2015 11:09pm

when is this place opening

wellboytoo · 09-01-2015 11:39pm

With planning construction all going well the best would be December 15 I would imagine.

Trick of the Tail · 10-01-2015 12:17am

They have said 'mid 2015' but with the above mentioned delays it could of course be later.

Max Powers · 19-05-2015 1:11pm

anyone hear any update about this? gonna take a few months to get the place done up at least.

AviationUK · 19-05-2015 2:03pm

I too would like to know, €3 a pint, can't wait!

dzilla · 19-05-2015 2:48pm

The newport in cork took longer than anticipated but once they start building they reckon they can have it turned into a wethys in 16weeks.

being ultra optimistic I think waterfords wethys will b open at xmas

fiachr_a · 19-05-2015 5:23pm

AviationUK wrote: »

I too would like to know, €3 a pint, can't wait!

Wait until you're sitting in this new Wetherspoons and it's full of Travellers.

Potential-Monke · 19-05-2015 5:35pm

fiachr_a wrote: »

Wait until you're sitting in this new Wetherspoons and it's full of Travellers.

This is the problem i forsee. Not specifically travellers, or whatever the PC version is these days. But scum in general. Cheap drink = dodgy clientele. Unless they have savage security, this will be a problem in Waterford. Remember Masons? Yeah, like that, but with cheaper drink.

fiachr_a · 19-05-2015 6:04pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Not specifically travellers, or whatever the PC version is these days.

They lost a case in Britain this week for refusing travellers so word is out that they can get served there now.

Adyx · 19-05-2015 7:32pm

But surely that would also be the case in the Wetherspoons in Dublin and I haven't heard any reports like that. Although what I have heard wouldn't fill me with confidence either.

kayaksurfbum · 19-05-2015 9:44pm

Adyx wrote: »

But surely that would also be the case in the Wetherspoons in Dublin and I haven't heard any reports like that.

I have.

"Full of tracksuits" was the expression.

Not that there is anything wrong with tracksuits i should add....

Potential-Monke · 20-05-2015 12:35am

Difference between here and Dublin is that Dublin is so large, the local scrotes have their own hovels to go to. In Waterford, because it's small and condensed into one area, the local scrotes are more likely to turn up in the "main" drinking area. The allure of €3 pints will bring them into town when they may have stayed in the local otherwise.

PTH2009 · 20-05-2015 12:52am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Difference between here and Dublin is that Dublin is so large, the local scrotes have their own hovels to go to. In Waterford, because it's small and condensed into one area, the local scrotes are more likely to turn up in the "main" drinking area. The allure of €3 pints will bring them into town when they may have stayed in the local otherwise.

True the city Centre is going to be ruined they will be fights and drunk people everywhere.

Don't mind paying a bit more for my pint knowing that I'll be safe

wellboytoo · 20-05-2015 7:37am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Difference between here and Dublin is that Dublin is so large, the local scrotes have their own hovels to go to. In Waterford, because it's small and condensed into one area, the local scrotes are more likely to turn up in the "main" drinking area. The allure of €3 pints will bring them into town when they may have stayed in the local otherwise.

earthily put, but surely there are a plethora of pubs offering €3 drinks already?

ec18 · 20-05-2015 8:12am

wellboytoo wrote: »

earthily put, but surely there are a plethora of pubs offering €3 drinks already?

Not in Dublin the typical price is probably €6 for a pint around the city centre and anywhere offering €3 is a student night/metal bar/weatherspoons/hovel :P:confused:

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