Motors Chat - Round 8

Bpmull · 11-05-2015 09:48PM

dgt wrote: »

You've clearly never driven a standard 406 d-turbo. 90 or 92bhp depending on year

You look me in the eye and tell me it's not too bad, you won't be able to.

I have my blue one turned up a good bit with some pump internal trickery and it's still desperate slow. It can't hold a candle to the red one, which was wicked fast.

I can't say I've ever been in a 406 d-turbo well I was in a 2.0 hdi but I assume your referring to the 1.9 ones. I was in peugoet 1.9 straight partners and Christ it's amazing they are even able too move. Although my dad had a few of them years ago when he started his company and a lad still managed to flip one going around a corner too quick my dad was fairly annoyed as it was a spotless 2002 berlingo.

Edit: did you ever dyno that red one must of been up on 200bhp was it with all the work you done by the sounds of it there wasn't much that passed it on the road.

toastedpickles wrote: »

Threw it up last night, took nothing from it, got 300 for it so its not too bad, it'l go towards the other one getting fixed and back running

Yep give you a bit more space too I supoose. You can concentrate on the other too.

dgt · 11-05-2015 10:00PM

Bpmull wrote: »

I can't say I've ever been in a 406 d-turbo well I was in a 2.0 hdi but I assume your referring to the 1.9 ones. I was in peugoet 1.9 straight partners and Christ it's amazing they are even able too move. Although my dad had a few of them years ago when he started his company and a lad still managed to flip one going around a corner too quick my dad was fairly annoyed as it was a spotless 2002 berlingo.

Edit: did you ever dyno that red one must of been up on 200bhp was it with all the work you done by the sounds of it there wasn't much that passed it on the road.

Even a 110hdi 406 felt slow to me. 2.2hdi feels a lot quicker, then again it has 136bhp and a 16v head so naturally it drives very well

Ah yes, DW8 scrap.... What possessed them to make a van with a straight diesel engine! That engine is pure muck to go and get anywhere

Never got it dyno'd with the merc turbo, in standard guise with a decat and a turn of the pump it got 116bhp. I recon it had near 170 when I finished with it, it drove more like a petrol car though

YbFocus · 11-05-2015 10:01PM

dgt wrote: »

Even a 110hdi 406 felt slow to me. 2.2hdi feels a lot quicker, then again it has 136bhp and a 16v head so naturally it drives very well

Ah yes, DW8 scrap.... What possessed them to make a van with a straight diesel engine! That engine is pure muck to go and get anywhere

Never got it dyno'd with the merc turbo, in standard guise with a decat and a turn of the pump it got 116bhp. I recon it had near 170 when I finished with it, it drove more like a petrol car though

Well the 530d had 220, so I'd say on the nose of 200 if not a touch more!
You were 4 deep that day too if I remember correctly!

166man · 11-05-2015 10:03PM

Dgt's 406 to be fair was genuinely a proper beast....I remeber driving it that day at Midway YB(!), really was impressive. What I liked most about it was its honesty, it was a proper agricultural diesel. Little refinement but proper old school diesel.

I frankly have no time for these newer generations of 1.2TdI and 1.3CDTi rubbish with dpf and dmf and turbos that need oil changed every 40 minutes along with this specific grade of oil that costs €4000 a litre. They also have the worst power band, nothing nothing, then something, then gearchange then nothing.

These newer turbo diesels honestly are like an asthmatic granny blowing through the turbo.....:(

I don't mean anything negative towards yourself BP but just giving a differnt side to it...

Foxhole Norman · 11-05-2015 10:24PM

90hp these days should be a criminal offence.

Bpmull · 11-05-2015 10:31PM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

90hp these days should be a criminal offence.

It wasn't that long ago that you had a yaris which would of been a good bit off 90bhp just saying. Infairness my dads golf feels fine with 90bhp although he drives it hard all the time. Anyway I suppose it is what it is. I'm more into cars and the mechanics behind them myself as opposed to speed once it can do and get upto 120-130kmh quickly enough I'm happy with that.

166man · 11-05-2015 10:31PM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

90hp these days should be a criminal offence.

90bhp is what I'd be happy with from my Lawnmower if we're being honest....

*goes off to think what his Harry lawnmower would be like with 90bhp....:pac:

Foxhole Norman · 11-05-2015 10:34PM

Bpmull wrote: »

It wasn't that long ago that you had a yaris which would of been a good bit off 90bhp just saying. Infairness my dads golf feels fine with 90bhp although he drives it hard all the time. Anyway I suppose it is what it is. I'm more into cars and the mechanics behind them myself as opposed to speed once it can do and get upto 120-130kmh quickly enough I'm happy with that.

Hence I said these days :pac:

Yeah the Yaris had 70hp but from a 1.0 N/A, it's also 16 years old. Almost as much as the the what 11/12 year younger Megane has with a 1.5 Turbo.

Bpmull · 11-05-2015 10:35PM

Infairness I was happy enough to go out and buy a 1.4 golf until you all put me off it so considering the megane is substantially quivker than that to drive it will be fine. It's kind of my bottom cut off Id never go any lower than that I've driven the likes of 1.2 cliometrics and they are just too slow screaming at you in fifth doing 80kmh fcuk that.

Toyotafanboi · 11-05-2015 10:47PM

Bpmull wrote: »

Infairness I was happy enough to go out and buy a 1.4 golf until you all put me off it so considering the megane is substantially quivker than that to drive it will be fine. It's kind of my bottom cut off Id never go any lower than that I've driven the likes of 1.2 cliometrics and they are just too slow screaming at you in fifth doing 80kmh fcuk that.

Deep down, i would drive a megane mk2.

There, i said it.

Bpmull · 11-05-2015 10:52PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Deep down, i would drive a megane mk2.

There, i said it.

I learned to drive in a black 07 mk2 facelift and loved it to bits maybe it's just because I was learning to drive at the time but I was never so disappointed about anything being sold. It was high mileage but drove perfectly and was just a nice yoke to drive in general.

Duke O Smiley · 11-05-2015 10:55PM

Bpmull wrote: »

I learned to drive in a black 07 mk2 facelift and loved it to bits maybe it's just because I was learning to drive at the time but I was never so disappointed about anything being sold. It was high mileage but drove perfectly and was just a nice yoke to drive in general.

I learned to drive in a Ford Escort and "loved it" too..

Toyotafanboi · 11-05-2015 10:58PM

My uncle has a laguna mk2 and to be fair it's a decently comfy car, well spec'd and the 1.6 petrol has made it to 200k miles too. it's broken a few front springs but other than that it's just been consumables.

colm_mcm · 11-05-2015 10:59PM

Lads, I'm looking for an article about Octav Botnar, the guy who basically ran Datsun UK in the early days. He was a very interesting character, and there were some great stories in it about some of the stunts he used to pull. Example he would drain the tanks of the new datsuns coming in from Japan and sell the petrol separately. He also had some interesting HR techniques and a good few financial irregularities!
Can't remember where I read it originaliy, but I assume it was online.

Duke O Smiley · 11-05-2015 11:00PM

My 19 is on something like 140k and it still feeld quite solid.

Comfier than my Corolla and its 5 years older.

Loads of equipment too.

/fanboy

166man · 11-05-2015 11:00PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Lads, I'm looking for an article about Octav Botnar, the guy who basically ran Datsun UK in the early days. He was a very interesting character, and there were some great stories in it about some of the stunts he used to pull. Example he would drain the tanks of the new datsuns coming in from Japan and sell the petrol separately. He also had some interesting HR techniques and a good few financial irregularities!
Can't remember where I read it originaliy, but I assume it was online.

Is it more interesting than talking about diesels?

Duke O Smiley · 11-05-2015 11:02PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Lads, I'm looking for an article about Octav Botnar, the guy who basically ran Datsun UK in the early days. He was a very interesting character, and there were some great stories in it about some of the stunts he used to pull. Example he would drain the tanks of the new datsuns coming in from Japan and sell the petrol separately. He also had some interesting HR techniques and a good few financial irregularities!
Can't remember where I read it originaliy, but I assume it was online.

If you happen to find that online lash it this way please

colm_mcm · 11-05-2015 11:12PM

Think it could be here, but the rest is missing

http://www.am-online.com/news/2008/8/21/insight-octav-botnar-the-legend-lives-on/18104/

Not this one, but worth a read all the same
http://www.motortrader.com/general-news/octav-botnar-dies-fighting/

Noccy_Mondy · 11-05-2015 11:44PM

Whisht outa the 90 brake bashing!! Mine has 90 brake....... and it amm..... moves.. I think :pac: In fairness 90brake diesels aren't that bad, pulls when required and just about does the job!

Mycroft H · 11-05-2015 11:59PM

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Whisht outa the 90 brake bashing!! Mine has 90 brake....... and it amm..... moves.. I think :pac: In fairness 90brake diesels aren't that bad, pulls when required and just about does the job!

And the Jimny has 85.. all about how you use it. Or so I keep telling myself.

Mycroft H · 12-05-2015 12:01AM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

My 19 is on something like 140k and it still feeld quite solid.

Comfier than my Corolla and its 5 years older.

Loads of equipment too.

/fanboy

I'd a MK1 Clio and that was a comfy car for a small family hatch.

I really do miss it. Gonna have to buy another.

ShaunieVW · 12-05-2015 12:15AM

Parked miles away from everything, still came out to this focus parked in my passenger seat. Bleeding thick.

12-05-2015 12:18AM

Honest seller is honest.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane/9233102?offset=30

GvidoR · 12-05-2015 12:23AM

Good luck to him trying to sell that.

Noccy_Mondy · 12-05-2015 12:24AM

ShaunieVW wrote:

Parked miles away from everything, still came out to this focus parked in my passenger seat. Bleeding thick.

Sorry I was in a rush and needed another car as a reference point for the parking spot. Thought the two looked cute together.

Oh, that dent on your door was unintentional btw

:pac:

12-05-2015 12:27AM

GvidoR wrote: »

Good luck to him trying to sell that.

Tis a her!

Duke O Smiley · 12-05-2015 12:39AM

€650...

Haha

Hahahahah

12-05-2015 12:47AM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

€650...

Haha

Hahahahah

Ad is 18 days old. It'll be there for another 18 and more. My old housemate bought the same year megane with a fresh nct last year for 50 quid more. It worked and everything!

Edit: The house mates one was actually 2 years newer! Thought that heap was a 05 for some reason.

Bpmull · 12-05-2015 11:47AM

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

Honest seller is honest.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane/9233102?offset=30

Sure them meganes are a woeful piece of sh!t altogether.

One of the lads down in the pub said they are always breaking sure the electric windows never work you have to change the keycards every week. He said the injectors are always going just constant electrical gremlins like and he's know abit about cars like. He even said the megane 3 is not reliable at all just because it's called a megane and sure them early mark 2 caused trouble so off course so would the mk3.

I don't know who'd buy one at all you'd want to be mad.

Oh wait

Foxhole Norman · 12-05-2015 11:48AM

Bpmull wrote: »

Sure them meganes are a woeful piece of sh!t altogether.

One of the lads down in the pub said they are always breaking sure the electric windows never work you have to change the keycards every week. He said the injectors are always going just constant electrical gremlins like and he's know abit about cars like. He even said the megane 3 is not reliable at all just because it's called a megane and sure them early mark 2 caused trouble so off course so would the mk3.

I don't know who'd buy one at all you'd want to be mad.

Oh wait

That's all accurate though

:D

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