Cork GAA Discussion Thread

ancapallliath · 30-04-2015 10:15PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd agree with all that but kearney and lawton very poor subs

Mccarthy got good scores but still feel better we have cork forward wise

sunday will be interesting and good to see cooper thrown in there.
unfortunately, i still feel we are short 1 more important player - we need a player who isnt afraid of breaking timber.

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-04-2015 10:16PM

ancapallliath wrote: »

sunday will be interesting and good to see cooper thrown in there.
unfortunately, i still feel we are short 1 more important player - we need a player who isnt afraid of breaking timber.

Copper be fine in defined role not there score goals and three

Totally agree your point john cronin is the man

Lawton nice club hurler but lacks steel aggression hurling do it as KK proves last week

ancapallliath · 30-04-2015 10:23PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Copper be fine in defined role not there score goals and three

Totally agree your point john cronin is the man

Lawton nice club hurler but lacks steel aggression hurling do it as KK proves last week

we are not lacking in fine hurlers at least, cooper should be able to throw his weight around at least. the backs are lacking full blown totally fearless players.

i didnt see the Jamie Wall game on saturday, stayed in dublin to go to the football.
how did Aidan do at full back?
thought a clearly unfit Cahalane didnt do too bad in KK the last day, not as bad as tv showed.
tv didnt show how strong the wind was in nowlan park and the backs were under fierce pressure for the opening half.
looked more solid in the 2nd half

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-04-2015 10:39PM

ancapallliath wrote: »

we are not lacking in fine hurlers at least, cooper should be able to throw his weight around at least. the backs are lacking full blown totally fearless players.

i didnt see the Jamie Wall game on saturday, stayed in dublin to go to the football.
how did Aidan do at full back?
thought a clearly unfit Cahalane didnt do too bad in KK the last day, not as bad as tv showed.
tv didnt show how strong the wind was in nowlan park and the backs were under fierce pressure for the opening half.
looked more solid in the 2nd half

Posted here after solid and he had too not great corner backs support so done well either took man or ball just what you want and real dog in he's hurling in he's tough won't shy away

Great hand and physical and loves tough stiff and won club player teams year half forward midelton two year ago

Was totally against he'd call up cork last Jan in half forward but fully back as back
Really centre back but holds centre well and has nous full

Concerns just third game there and lacks yard pace but you go won't go through him often and moderns game two corner backs fast could be okay

Better than o Neill or Maccie as real presence hurling

Twenty nine since start year is experiences not too old either

Played minor undrr twenty one both cork

Not slower than Eoin Keane and tbh best choice outside colm Spillane and injured cahalane

He can hurl both sides

ancapallliath · 30-04-2015 10:48PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Posted here after solid and he had too not great corner backs support so done well either took man or ball just what you want and real dog in he's hurling in he's tough won't shy away

Great hand and physical and loves tough stiff and won club player teams year half forward midelton two year ago

Was totally against he'd call up cork last Jan in half forward but fully back as back
Really centre back but holds centre well and has nous full

Concerns just third game there and lacks yard pace but you go won't go through him often and moderns game two corner backs fast could be okay

Better than o Neill or Maccie as real presence hurling

Twenty nine since start year is experiences not too old either

Played minor undrr twenty one both cork

Not slower than Eoin Keane and tbh best choice outside colm Spillane and injured cahalane

He can hurl both sides

seen him under age and for midleton alright well worth a shot there now anyway.
sunday is a nice to win, not a must win for us. the summer to end in september will be much preferred

Orizio · 01-05-2015 06:15AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Ryan is twenty nine and six foot three and very strong so ideal size for full back

He is also very slow and turns like a ship. And has questionable hurling ability. And has far more experience playing in the half-back line and half-forward line. I've no idea what the 6'3" ideal size thing is about, the big man on the edge of the square thing died out years ago. The reason Cahalane struggles is for the same reasons Ryan will - slow feet, slow hands.

Maybe Ryan will surprise us the same way Ellis did though.

The obvious solution is Mac at 3 and Burke in the corner. Or better yet go back a few weeks and give Conor O'Sullivan more game time so we have someone decent to come into the full-back line.

Orizio · 01-05-2015 06:20AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

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Totally agree your point john cronin is the man

Cronin is the man to do what? Break timber? I've never seen him do that ever. As 'nice' a hurler as Lawton is.

He is a workhorse ala Cooper, O'Shea, Kearney etc except that he isn't as good in the air as Cooper nor does he have the hurling the other lads have. With a couple of years development he might have been made into an option (like O'Shea for example) but jettisoning him in at this stage is crazy.

youngbob · 01-05-2015 07:29AM

i've seen enough of both cronins to know they won't break any timber. we need to give low ball into inside forwards. pa balloons most balls high & john wastes more ball than he uses. o'shea is more accurate & cooper works harder & is more clever with the ball. great to have a bench that can turn a match if plan b is needed.last year people were saying JBM was taking a risk with ellis, now they have the same thoughts about ryan. give the lad a break & don't judge him before sunday. big game for him, to come in for joyce when all the others haven't claimed the FB spot when they got their chance.

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 09:38AM

Orizio wrote: »

Cronin is the man to do what? Break timber? I've never seen him do that ever. As 'nice' a hurler as Lawton is.

He is a workhorse ala Cooper, O'Shea, Kearney etc except that he isn't as good in the air as Cooper nor does he have the hurling the other lads have. With a couple of years development he might have been made into an option (like O'Shea for example) but jettisoning him in at this stage is crazy.

I always find your ruthless examination player's is completely one sided you make slant Ryan slow to turn like a ship but course your Castlemartin club man lawton who has done nothing absolutely nothing last four years you will fail to critse or if any one does you get excited

Seem as your fast enough to use metaphor look lawton let's be honest fine club hurler but in physical sense won't break eggs and cronin is ten times ball winner in air and unlike lawton won't go missing and deserves half chances lawton got

Ryan deserves go as Mcdonnell as you know destroyed league final three ago full

Colemania · 01-05-2015 09:41AM

So lads, ye've seen the team. Waterford won't make much changes so what's the verdict now? Is the back line capable enough to keep a hold of Waterford?

Mountainlad · 01-05-2015 10:09AM

Colemania wrote: »

So lads, ye've seen the team. Waterford won't make much changes so what's the verdict now? Is the back line capable enough to keep a hold of Waterford?

I'd imagine everyone here thinks Cork will win. Conversely, on the Waterford thread most people think Waterford will win.

Being favourites, if you setup a neutral thread the majority (be it great or small) would vote for Cork I would imagine. I am guessing you yourself are edging towards them given you chose to ask on this thread about the teams chances rather than the Waterford one. You're better off deciding for yourself to be honest who's more likely to win.

Colemania · 01-05-2015 10:12AM

Well ya I'm leaning towards Cork but I'm not ruling out Waterford at all. Probably one of few people I know that fancys Waterford to cause an upset. Don't have the balls to go for them though as I need to get this result right in order to win the competition!

Mountainlad · 01-05-2015 11:02AM

Colemania wrote: »

Well ya I'm leaning towards Cork but I'm not ruling out Waterford at all. Probably one of few people I know that fancys Waterford to cause an upset. Don't have the balls to go for them though as I need to get this result right in order to win the competition!

Is it the Allianz prediction league thing?

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 11:17AM

Mountainlad wrote: »

I'd imagine everyone here thinks Cork will win. Conversely, on the Waterford thread most people think Waterford will win.

Being favourites, if you setup a neutral thread the majority (be it great or small) would vote for Cork I would imagine. I am guessing you yourself are edging towards them given you chose to ask on this thread about the teams chances rather than the Waterford one. You're better off deciding for yourself to be honest who's more likely to win.

Mountain lad I don't think cork will win Sunday not that the fact waterford imp are better but cork as I said yesterday afternoon what I heard expected cork team may not be stronger and turned out that way

Also with out giving further away cork are more interested in moving to solve full back play specific system v Waterford as seen starting lehane full play sweeper

Cork wanted beat dubs and get league final but since waterford playing twice clear as day cork hope won eighty per cent and despite yerra talk like kerry do cork league cork are not going full out as much psst years shows cork interested all Ireland this year

It be close but considering cork with Nash huge doubt and Collins set start plus I'm hearing another injury concern today with panel and Waterford hungry more than cork I expect close game and if waterford have made improvement we are told to belive should win it by few points but I have no doubt munster while it be close cork will win

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 11:30AM

Colemania wrote: »

So lads, ye've seen the team. Waterford won't make much changes so what's the verdict now? Is the back line capable enough to keep a hold of Waterford?

I hope waterford go orthodox I doubt it though

Ryan needs be tested
I'll be happy with performance and Ryan having solid game coughlan Burke getting games and competitive performance will do
Waterford win not be end all now we have them in munster
Dont be surprised if this is game runs flat towards the end
Hopefully it be good game

Colemania · 01-05-2015 11:49AM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Is it the Allianz prediction league thing?

That would be an ecumenical matter.....

Yes it is

Mountainlad · 01-05-2015 11:51AM

Colemania wrote: »

That would be an ecumenical matter.....

Yes it is

Well you're doing something right to be in contention.

I'll put it this way, if Waterford don't win, I hope you get the prize :P

Colemania · 01-05-2015 12:09PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Well you're doing something right to be in contention.

I'll put it this way, if Waterford don't win, I hope you get the prize :P

Jesus it's been wrecking my head in the last 2 weeks! Kerry beating Antrim and Westmeath really killed me as I didn't expect it. To be honest (and I hope he's not reading this) but the guy in 2nd has to go for Waterford if he thinks I'm going for Cork. No use to him if we both go for Cork! So then i'm thinking do I second guess him and go for Waterford too so that it's a win-win for me? Oh the stress of it!

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 12:15PM

Colemania wrote: »

Jesus it's been wrecking my head in the last 2 weeks! Kerry beating Antrim and Westmeath really killed me as I didn't expect it. To be honest (and I hope he's not reading this) but the guy in 2nd has to go for Waterford if he thinks I'm going for Cork. No use to him if we both go for Cork! So then i'm thinking do I second guess him and go for Waterford too so that it's a win-win for me? Oh the stress of it!

Best luck Cole in that
Safe bet is waterford by three imo

Colemania · 01-05-2015 12:19PM

Ah don't do it to me! Had my mind set on Cork!

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 12:28PM

Colemania wrote: »

Ah don't do it to me! Had my mind set on Cork!

Ha ha
I could be wrong with Murphy Ellis not fully fit Ryan making full back debut then Nash huge doubt no real cover full back as cahalane injury struggling imo Waterford to win

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 03:25PM

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/jbm-sometimes-it-can-be-stupid-to-go-for-goals/

Brilliant to hear that Spillane hugely rated
I said this from day one I rate him hugely he's intercounty all over him
Jbm if rates him should give him more run games and won't improve warming he's arse in the bench
He should started Sunday and should be starting if cork get munster final which imo will start meaningless munster final

He rates Mccarthy fair enough was good v KK but is better we have
We too many forwards similar we need ball winners if harnedy cooper out

Cronin was rated after Laois by jbm but never got chances other got
Totally agree shooting erratic but can be developed but wins air ball and been consistent goof cit
Superb cork intermediate last year all Ireland

Colemania · 01-05-2015 03:41PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/jbm-sometimes-it-can-be-stupid-to-go-for-goals/

Brilliant to hear that Spillane hugely rated
I said this from day one I rate him hugely he's intercounty all over him
Jbm if rates him should give him more run games and won't improve warming he's arse in the bench
He should started Sunday and should be starting if cork get munster final which imo will start meaningless munster final

He rates Mccarthy fair enough was good v KK but is better we have
We too many forwards similar we need ball winners if harnedy cooper out

Cronin was rated after Laois by jbm but never got chances other got
Totally agree shooting erratic but can be developed but wins air ball and been consistent goof cit
Superb cork intermediate last year all Ireland

I see Dayne Lee mentioned there again. Had seen his name in some article recently so he must be a talent. Know much about him TTM?

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 03:46PM

Colemania wrote: »

I see Dayne Lee mentioned there again. Had seen his name in some article recently so he must be a talent. Know much about him TTM?

Played minor past two years and again harty ag moire three years superb touch and pace and skill

Crisp striking and golden telepathic balance movement in pace

Great reader game
He's very young though and needs consistency and is one future but won't be used imo this year but v KK showed hunger want desire will credit young man

Cork have better experience forwards this year so I'd have him training not match day panel
He's strenght will come in time but a fine hurlers and hopefully Eddie gunning soon leaving over call up training panel be used league next year

CORKDOUBLE · 01-05-2015 04:23PM

Great to read JBM on speaking of the young talent I agree TTM young Anthony Spillane real potential ....I just hope and pray that his brother will overcome his injurys I have great time for Colm I think he could be a new "Rock" at the edge of the square ...the Intermidates and u21s used him at center forward and he could make it there ...fingers crossed for him....you have to mention young Patrick Collins already 3 years with the Minors and 2 years done with the u21s amazing ....three more years left with the u21s and if Nash does not make it on sunday he could be playing his first senior match in a National Leauge final ....UP DA REBELS !

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-05-2015 04:28PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Great to read JBM on speaking of the young talent I agree TTM young Anthony Spillane real potential ....I just hope and pray that his brother will overcome his injurys I have great time for Colm I think he could be a new "Rock" at the edge of the square ...the Intermidates and u21s used him at center forward and he could make it there ...fingers crossed for him....you have to mention young Patrick Collins already 3 years with the Minors and 2 years done with the u21s amazing ....three more years left with the u21s and if Nash does not make it on sunday he could be playing his first senior match in a National Leauge final ....UP DA REBELS !

The Spillane are a rare breed cork hurling craves in there warriors hsve real real dog within , have huge will and want and desire and resolve to succeed blessed with hurling but hsve hurling power aggression and ruthless execution with a devastating sensational attuide to the game imo that few cork football and hurlers do well to copy

Pos087 · 01-05-2015 06:50PM

Is it true Nash is out of Sundays game. It could be a good thing. as much of a great keeper he is, his puck outs are after getting very poor. He takes for ever to puck it out giving defences loads of time to get into position. This would really benifit Waterford as they have a good structure lately. In average a game he is putting 2 or 3 straight out over the side and 2 or 3 short puck outs straight into opponents hands for easy scores. Not to sure a about the result but would be confident about result in June. Up the rebels.

youngbob · 01-05-2015 08:42PM

i think Nash is going to be ready for Sunday. he was sick earlier in the week. it would be a big challenge for Collins but I,m sure he'd be up to it. his puck outs are top drawer. Interesting Cork team..will they play 3 midfielders with O'Shea? Will Lehane go roaming? Can't wait for Sunday. Cork could do with a national title before championship starts.REBELS ABU

Richmond Ultra · 01-05-2015 11:18PM

Murphy is wearing a rugby shoulder protector under his jersey on Sunday to protect the shoulder.

CORKDOUBLE · 01-05-2015 11:40PM

Ruairi Deane went off injured tonight with a shoulder injury playing for Bantry against Eire Og ...bad news we hope its not serious.

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