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How will you vote in the Marriage Equality referendum? Mod Note Post 1

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  • #6812
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,948 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What are you talking about?

    Having our young people raised in the best way possible effects us all. Homosexuals getting married doesn't effect us.

    what exactly is your point? do you think we didnt have a referendum on children because they are not important? you do realise what the purpose of a referendum is?


  • #6813
    Hyzepher
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,678 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What are you talking about?

    Having our young people raised in the best way possible effects us all. Homosexuals getting married doesn't effect us.

    So why be against gay marriage then


  • #6814
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    noway12345 wrote: »
    But surely the future of kids is way more important than homosexual people getting married?

    Actually you can see from the campaign that most think it is.

    The two are not mutually exclusive.

    Actually, what I can see from the campaign is a No side plastering the place with posters which give the impression that voting no in the Referendum has even the slightest baring on who parents children. They are lying. They know they are lying. They know it's covered by the Children and Family Relationship Act but apparently the believed posters that read 'We Don't Like Gays - Vote NO' would be counter productive if honest.

    Even more honest would be - We Don't Like the Children and Family Relationship Act but there is nothing we can do about it - VOTE NO ON SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT- but it would never fit on a poster unless one used teeny weeny letters


  • #6815
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What are you talking about?

    Having our young people raised in the best way possible effects us all. Homosexuals getting married doesn't effect us.

    And I genuinely believe that Catholics raising kids is more detrimental to kids than being raised by homosexuals. Imagine if we could all have our prejudices pandered to.


  • #6816
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    Personally I think "Eeew Gays" would have been the most honest message....


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  • #6817
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    MrWalsh wrote: »
    So whats your point - how does the referendum on same sex marriage affect children?

    Read my posts please.


  • #6818
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what exactly is your point? do you think we didnt have a referendum on children because they are not important? you do realise what the purpose of a referendum is?

    I'm saying a referendum on adoption would have been more important.


  • #6819
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,948 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Read my posts please.

    we have and they make no sense. what is your point?


  • #6820
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    So why be against gay marriage then

    Who said I was?


  • #6821
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I'm saying a referendum on adoption would have been more important.

    That isn't going to change the Constitution though. You don't get a say in that.


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  • #6822
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I'm saying a referendum on adoption would have been more important.

    We didnt require a referendum on adoption because its not changing the constitution.


  • #6823
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,948 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I'm saying a referendum on adoption would have been more important.

    we didnt need a referendum on adoption. i asked you this already but i'll ask again:- do you know what the purpose of a referendum is?


  • #6824
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    The two are not mutually exclusive.

    Actually, what I can see from the campaign is a No side plastering the place with posters which give the impression that voting no in the Referendum has even the slightest baring on who parents children. They are lying. They know they are lying. They know it's covered by the Children and Family Relationship Act but apparently the believed posters that read 'We Don't Like Gays - Vote NO' would be counter productive if honest.

    Even more honest would be - We Don't Like the Children and Family Relationship Act but there is nothing we can do about it - VOTE NO ON SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT- but it would never fit on a poster unless one used teeny weeny letters

    That's my point. Most people don't really care about homosexual marriage, they care more about the adoption laws. That's why the no side are using it as a tactic.


  • #6825
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    noway12345 wrote: »
    But surely the future of kids is way more important than homosexual people getting married?

    Actually you can see from the campaign that most think it is.

    And thats being taken care of by the bill that the government passed already, not sure exactly what your going on about?


  • #6826
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    And I genuinely believe that Catholics raising kids is more detrimental to kids than being raised by homosexuals. Imagine if we could all have our prejudices pandered to.

    Stop with the accusations.


  • #6827
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    we have and they make no sense. what is your point?

    I've made my point, not my fault that you can't understand it.


  • #6828
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,948 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I've made my point, not my fault that you can't understand it.

    you havent made any point. do you know what the purpose of a referendum is?


  • #6829
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    sup_dude wrote: »
    That isn't going to change the Constitution though. You don't get a say in that.

    That's my point and that's why the no side are using it. People would prefer to have a say on the adoption laws.


  • #6830
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I'm saying a referendum on adoption would have been more important.

    Why would we have a referendum on adoption? Your understand a referendum is to change something in the constitution? You don't get to have them for every issue under the sun only those that require constitutional change and theres nothing affecting adoption in the constitution so theres no need for a referendum


  • #6831
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    noway12345 wrote: »
    But surely the future of kids is way more important than homosexual people getting married?

    Actually you can see from the campaign that most think it is.

    Children's charities are all saying Vote Yes. You think you care more about kids than organisations dedicated to helping them and making their lives better?


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  • #6832
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    MrWalsh wrote: »
    We didnt require a referendum on adoption because its not changing the constitution.
    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    we didnt need a referendum on adoption. i asked you this already but i'll ask again:- do you know what the purpose of a referendum is?

    Before jumping into things can you relax and read what's posted? Thanks.


  • #6833
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you havent made any point. do you know what the purpose of a referendum is?

    Yes. It has nothing to do with my point.


  • #6834
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Yes. It has nothing to do with my point.

    It really does when you post things like this
    noway12345 wrote: »
    I'm saying a referendum on adoption would have been more important.


  • #6835
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Before jumping into things can you relax and read what's posted? Thanks.

    Youre not making any sense at all. No voter?


  • #6836
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,948 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Yes. It has nothing to do with my point.

    it has everything to do with your 'point', such as it is. A referendum is only required when a change to the constitution is proposed. There is no change to the constitution required to change our adoption laws. ergo no referendum required. so why do you think a referendum was required?


  • #6837
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Before jumping into things can you relax and read what's posted? Thanks.
    I assume you're trying to say that if it was made very clear that the referendum will not do anything to change the fact gay couples can adopt then a lot of people, primarily no voters who had an issue with this, will no longer care.


  • #6838
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    noway12345 wrote: »
    That's my point and that's why the no side are using it. People would prefer to have a say on the adoption laws.

    They don't get a say though. No-one can change that so to do so is off topic.


  • #6839
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Read my posts please.

    Please read people's responses.

    The referendum has nothing to do with who raises children.

    k.

    You might believe homosexuals cannot raise children but that is simply your opinion and the research contradicts your opinion.

    Homosexuals are already raising children - in fact, some of the children raised by homosexuals are adults now and raising their own children. Children with homosexual grandparents - imagine that.

    Do those children matter? Are they important? Yes they are. They also have nothing to do with the Referendum. k.

    Soon (any day now actually... awaiting the news...) there will be children with homosexual great-grand parents *mind blown*.

    Will all of these homosexual parents, grandparents and great grandparent be married people or not married people - that is the question. The only question we are voting on.


  • #6840
    noway12345
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Ok, people need to calm down. Some of you are way too emotional. I know why we have this referendum and I know the bill was passed.

    The overwhelming majority of people support SSM but that's not the case when it comes to the adoption of kids by homosexuals. This is why the no side are using kids on their posters. People are against homosexuals adopting kids.

    Now just to repeat, I know the bill was passed and I know why there's a referendum on SSM. This doesn't change the fact that people are unhappy with the bill being passed.


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  • #6841
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    noway12345 wrote: »
    People are against homosexuals adopting kids.

    What people? Gay people could always adopt children.


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