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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭5unflower


    Funny thing... Aldi is German, yet Aldi, here in Germany is absolutely horrendous. The majority of them are filthy, cheap ****e filled warehouses. When I was home I went to Aldi, in Grange in Cork and my god it was heaven.

    I dont think we as Irish people realise how lucky we are to have the Supermarkets and produce available to us. Supermarket shopping in Germany is possibly the worst thing in the world. Its 99 percent canned ****, fake meats and terrible cheese. Im very lucky to have an Irish and English supplier for our work because if not... We couldnt do it.

    Great innovators, ****e eaters.

    I'm just trying to figure where you could possibly be doing your supermarket shopping that you have developed such a bad opinion about Germans and their attitude to food...? I fully agree with you on ALdi and Lidl, they are very different over there and I would never go near them, unlike over here, where I use them more frequently. But any other supermarket, I absolutely love shopping in when in Germany! The variety and choice of produce is so much bigger than over here. Fake meats...?? Admittedly I would usually buy in the local butchers rather than supermarket over there, but again the choice of cuts and quality never appeared to me in any way inferior to Irish meats...and don't get me started on comparing Irish and German sausages or cold meats for that matter ;)

    Just very interesting to see an Irish person having such a bad opinion about German food, never encountered that before...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Photo-Sniper


    5unflower wrote: »
    I'm just trying to figure where you could possibly be doing your supermarket shopping that you have developed such a bad opinion about Germans and their attitude to food...? I fully agree with you on ALdi and Lidl, they are very different over there and I would never go near them, unlike over here, where I use them more frequently. But any other supermarket, I absolutely love shopping in when in Germany! The variety and choice of produce is so much bigger than over here. Fake meats...?? Admittedly I would usually buy in the local butchers rather than supermarket over there, but again the choice of cuts and quality never appeared to me in any way inferior to Irish meats...and don't get me started on comparing Irish and German sausages or cold meats for that matter ;)

    Just very interesting to see an Irish person having such a bad opinion about German food, never encountered that before...

    I shop everywhere here. Kaisers, Edeka, Rewe...even Kadewe for certain things. The produce here is nowhere near in comparison to Ireland.

    You do realise Irish sausages are 10000000 times better and healthier than German ones though? And yes fake meats.

    I had a sous of mine source bio chicken breasts for two weeks before as a little project for him. Find good priced, nicely raised chicken breasts. The butchers kept saying to him that "This is not 100 percent chicken breast, we always inject flour and water into the breast straight after the farmers hand them to us" This occured over 6 times. . Dont get me started on finding fresh fish....

    Im not just speaking as an Irish person living here either, im speaking as a person who works 85 hours a week with food, produce and feeding (majority) german people. Give me Tesco, Dunnes and the Irish aldi and lidles well above any food store in germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭5unflower


    I guess actually working in the food/restaurant industry gives you much more of an insight into the differences in sourcing/producing food in the two countries.

    I would be much more of an average consumer tho I do look into where things come from and what goes into them, and with sausages for example what I meant was that Irish ones tend to have a much higher fat content and much less flavour than German ones? I may not be exactly comparing likes with like here, so I'm open to correction.

    Oh and you said elsewhere above that you see Germans eating a lot of fried food...again very interesting as I have certainly consumed a lot less fried food in Germany than I have ever over here. But I wonder if there are also significant differences between the different regions in Germany...fresh and really good fish dishes might be more of a thing in Hamburg and the North Sea coast than in Bavaria, where the very hearty, meaty cuisine prevails.

    What would be your experience with bakery produce? Just because this seems to be another area that Germans pride themselves in and again I personally find the variety and quality of breads much better than Irish breads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Photo-Sniper


    5unflower wrote: »
    I guess actually working in the food/restaurant industry gives you much more of an insight into the differences in sourcing/producing food in the two countries.

    I would be much more of an average consumer tho I do look into where things come from and what goes into them, and with sausages for example what I meant was that Irish ones tend to have a much higher fat content and much less flavour than German ones? I may not be exactly comparing likes with like here, so I'm open to correction.

    Oh and you said elsewhere above that you see Germans eating a lot of fried food...again very interesting as I have certainly consumed a lot less fried food in Germany than I have ever over here. But I wonder if there are also significant differences between the different regions in Germany...fresh and really good fish dishes might be more of a thing in Hamburg and the North Sea coast than in Bavaria, where the very hearty, meaty cuisine prevails.

    What would be your experience with bakery produce? Just because this seems to be another area that Germans pride themselves in and again I personally find the variety and quality of breads much better than Irish breads.

    I think German food culture is based heavily on fried food. Take for instance the Scnitzel, (its Austrian but the wiener art is eaten by everyone here)..all the sausages that are fried etc. The pork in Germany is also nowhere near as high quality as Ireland as there is too much of the damn stuff.

    Germans do baking extremely well. The bread here is for sure better than Ireland I believe but thats mainly down to broadening the variation of yeasts, seeds and flours used. The turkish breads here in Berin in particular are mind blowing.

    Again, the food culture in Berlin is phenomenal... The turkish, asian and many different cuisines beat Irelands food culture hands down.. Im just talking about supermarkets and produce in General. Its a shocking one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I shop everywhere here. Kaisers, Edeka, Rewe...even Kadewe for certain things. The produce here is nowhere near in comparison to Ireland.

    You do realise Irish sausages are 10000000 times better and healthier than German ones though? And yes fake meats.

    I had a sous of mine source bio chicken breasts for two weeks before as a little project for him. Find good priced, nicely raised chicken breasts. The butchers kept saying to him that "This is not 100 percent chicken breast, we always inject flour and water into the breast straight after the farmers hand them to us" This occured over 6 times. . Dont get me started on finding fresh fish....

    Im not just speaking as an Irish person living here either, im speaking as a person who works 85 hours a week with food, produce and feeding (majority) german people. Give me Tesco, Dunnes and the Irish aldi and lidles well above any food store in germany.

    I can't comment on meat as I don't eat it, but I have to admit that German ingredients is something I dearly miss in Ireland. The fresh fruit and veg that can be bought at any weekday market is just so much fresher, tastier and comes in so many more varieties.

    At this point, I've given up on trying to find any variety of good salad (wet) potato over here - Nicola, Sieglinde, Bamberger Hoernchen, I'd take any of them but you can't get them.
    I've got a hell of a time finding white asparagus, and when I do it's almost unaffordable.
    Same goes for wild mushrooms in autumn. Sometimes they have procini at the English Market, but they usually are already semi-dried with age.
    Artichokes, squashes, sour cherries, radicchio, curly endive, daikon, salsify, broad beans, romanesco cauliflower, mirabelles... I've got a long list of fruit and veg I'd love to be able to obtain as easily and cheaply as in Germany. It's one of the main reasons why I'm planning to turn half my garden in vegetable beds.

    And the cheeses... I'd better stop now, I'm almost getting homesick


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Pennymarkt & Aldi etc. are definitely a bit eye raising in Germany (if wondrously cheap to feed yourself in as a broke student and also my Happy Place for buying Ritter, Milka, espresso 'bags' etc. etc. but my experience has always been that the range and availability of fruit & vegetables is way better in German greengrocers than it it here. Not to mention actually being able to shop seasonally, I find what's available in Ireland is available year round and at the same price whereas when I'm in Germany I see seasonal veggies for sale and it makes me happy. I've had manys the dodgy meal there (first was there as a very price conscious student and on return trips might not have always made the best choices) but Turkish food & Vietnamese/Asian food that I've had in random restaurants I've stopped into has been to a standard I'd have had to research to find here and pay lots o'money for.

    Different strokes I guess, and different tastes, but my first port of call in Germany is normally a supermarket of some shade or another for a mooch :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,534 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Shenshen wrote: »
    At this point, I've given up on trying to find any variety of good salad (wet) potato over here - Nicola, Sieglinde, Bamberger Hoernchen, I'd take any of them but you can't get them.
    The baby potatoes in Lidl are sometimes Nicola. They vary a lot though, so you have to check the label.
    I've got a hell of a time finding white asparagus, and when I do it's almost unaffordable.
    Again they sometimes have it in Lidl when it's in season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Alun wrote: »
    The baby potatoes in Lidl are sometimes Nicola. They vary a lot though, so you have to check the label.

    Again they sometimes have it in Lidl when it's in season.

    I try checking the labels, but most of the time they just say "salad potatoes". I've never seen them actually giving the variety.

    And I've never yet seen white asparagus in Lidl. There are a few farm shops around here in Cork that sell it, but you can tell it's not field-fresh there, either.

    Having said all that, I have noticed a dramatic increase in the variety of fruit and veg on sale throughout the country, from Aldi and Lidl to farmer's markets, in the last few years. It really makes me happy to see that, and I hope it will continue. :)
    Until then, I shall do my best with a spade and some seeds and bulbs my mom sent me over :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,534 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I try checking the labels, but most of the time they just say "salad potatoes". I've never seen them actually giving the variety.
    I've just looked, and I've the dregs of two packs still lurking at he bottom of my vegetable rack, and both have the variety on them, one is Coquine and the other Marilyn. Both also have the name of the grower on the label. It's printed on a white panel, on the bottom right corner of the packaging.

    The normal sized organic potatoes always have the variety on the packs too, printed in the same way in the same position.
    And I've never yet seen white asparagus in Lidl. There are a few farm shops around here in Cork that sell it, but you can tell it's not field-fresh there, either.
    Maybe it's dependant on the individual shops, but I've definitely bought it in the one in Greystones.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,397 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Those brioche buns from aldi were perfect. And we got the steak burgers there too. stuffed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Triboro


    beertons wrote: »
    Those brioche buns from aldi were perfect. And we got the steak burgers there too. stuffed.

    Are the steak burgers already made up in Aldi .. Fresh or frozen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Alun wrote: »

    Maybe it's dependant on the individual shops, but I've definitely bought it in the one in Greystones.

    I'll definitely keep checking, May's just round the corner after all :)

    All I usually find is the green asparagus - flown in from Peru, according to the label, and available year-round. I buy it, but it does somewhat freak me out to have asparagus in autumn and winter...


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,397 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Triboro wrote: »
    Are the steak burgers already made up in Aldi .. Fresh or frozen?

    2 in a pack job. Fresh I think. I only cooked them, herself bought them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    I made my own burger buns today with this recipe. They turned out really well. Nice and soft but not so much that they disintegrated when I was eating my burger.

    346668.JPG

    And of course the picture is sideways!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    Thanks for all the meat suggestions for the BBQ I was having. I listened to none of ye though! Bought 2 large sirloins and they were fab. I've used a gas BBQ for years but as this kicked the bucket I used an old traditional (coal based) one and the difference was incredible! Made coleslaw with it too which was nice.

    Loire.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    You made coleslaw with a charcoal grill? Now there's a recipe worth sharing.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 suvarna phulphagar


    Hey,I am Indian and I am a vegetarian but I cannot get any vegetables like the ones that I use in India because I am currently living in Ireland. Can someone give some vegetable substitutes and some good recipes that have a little Indian flavour in them?
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    What vegetables are you having trouble finding?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Hey,I am Indian and I am a vegetarian but I cannot get any vegetables like the ones that I use in India because I am currently living in Ireland. Can someone give some vegetable substitutes and some good recipes that have a little Indian flavour in them?
    .

    You would be best asking for advice in the Region forum where you live/shop, as the locals may be better able to advise you on suitable shops in your area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,041 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I'll definitely keep checking, May's just round the corner after all :)

    All I usually find is the green asparagus - flown in from Peru, according to the label, and available year-round. I buy it, but it does somewhat freak me out to have asparagus in autumn and winter...

    Bradley's, North Main Street had Irish green asparagus last week.
    M&S have UK green asparagus seasonally too.

    White asparagus is cruelty to vegetables.
    It's the veal of the vegetable world!;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Bradley's, North Main Street had Irish green asparagus last week.
    M&S have UK green asparagus seasonally too.

    White asparagus is cruelty to vegetables.
    It's the veal of the vegetable world!
    How is it cruel? I'm dying to know the answer to this! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Hey,I am Indian and I am a vegetarian but I cannot get any vegetables like the ones that I use in India because I am currently living in Ireland.
    You might get them in a local Asian supermarket.

    In dublin there is one in blackrock I mentioned before. The owner appears to be Indian, most others are Chinese. He has lots of veg I did not recognise.
    rubadub wrote: »
    I was very surprised it was open until 8pm each night. I had to ring the market owner to ask if they were opening as there was no info on the web. I had to walk through the arch in pitch black to get to it, though you can come in from the other side.

    Seems to be an Indian father & son running it, friendly guys who are genuinely interesting in what you want. I told them they should advertise more and that I would post it on a website, I have no connection, just do not want to see them close! and its a shame that such a good shop is unknown.

    They are up the back of the market, where the green arrow is pointing here
    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=53.300859,-6.178485&hl=en&num=1&t=h&vpsrc=0&z=19

    There is a Filipino shop in dun laoghaire too "Pinoy sari sari store"

    That blackrock shop got in coconut flour for me, and seem willing to getting whatever you would want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,041 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    How is it cruel? I'm dying to know the answer to this! :)

    They are kept in the dark for all their short lives - just like crated veal calves.
    Vegetables have feeling too, you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    They are kept in the dark for all their short lives - just like crated veal calves.
    Vegetables have feeling too, you know.
    I know, they feel stress indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Let's hope nobody ever pops a recipe in The Cooking Club with either of those foul ingredients! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭catho_monster


    You know that feeling, when you've been sick for way too long and by the "end", you're itching to do something. Anything. Anything other than sit/lie/watch tv/turn into a vegetable.

    That was me last week and I took it out on my recipe folder (print outs from recipes I'd found online and cut outs from newspapers/magazines - all stuffed in a folder and up with my recipe books). It was a total mess. Every time I wanted to find a recipe, I'd have to go through the whole thing, knowing it was there somewhere, but hell if I know where. Usually hoped that if I made it "lately" it'd be nearer the top of the pile, but I'd usually mess up the pile every time I searched, so yeah: mess.

    So, last week, I took over the kitchen table, and over a couple of days on go-slow (still sick really!), I alphabetized by main ingredient my whole recipe folder. \o/ The beacon of organisation, my kitchen now is.

    The flip side of this, was that I found stuffed in with all my go-to recipes, a heap of "I should try these" recipes. So I've gone and made a new to-do recipe folder of stuff I've been collecting for years, but I've somehow managed to forget about/not get around to doing. Which is kinda awesome really. We don't really cook by what we want in this house because we belong to a CSA, so we cook according to whatever the farmer decides to throw our way each week, so it's really nice to have all the recipes I've not tried yet to hand for super little effort with super little notice. (Like a radish pickle recipe from Aoife McElwaine that I've kept since July last year, waiting on the next batch of radishes and the first lot came in this week!)

    There is definitely something to be said for a breath of fresh-organised-air post illness, even if it is just something as simple as organising my recipes :)

    Now that I've written this (and re-read it), I feel like it's a tad on the side of over-organised?! Help me out here, am I the only one or are ye all stick-them-in-a-pile folk, or digital-over-analog folk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    I went through my recipe books recently and organised all the recipes I like from them by course in a spreadsheet. It means that when I need inspiration for dinner I can just have a look at the spreadsheet and choose something rather than having to go through all my books. I've been meaning to do the same with my magazine clippings but I haven't yet. They're all shoved into plastic folders at the back of a recipe notebook. I never use any of those recipes because they're not organised but I add to them every month like an idiot.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    I have a big hardback 1991 diary that I've been writing random recipes into ever since that year, and some have been written in by my daughters. It's a mess of scribbles and food stains but I love it.
    A previous laptop crashed and I lost all of the recipes I had in a folder on it, then I had to search Boards and my sent emails for them. So I decided to safeguard against it happening again and now I've got them on Dropbox :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Has anyone found a good app yet that they use to store their online recipes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭fiddlechic


    I similarly had a recipe folder, including one for melting chocolate pots by Delia that I photocopied, and was crackling with the spills of chocolate from overuse!

    I used evernote to photo all of them, and put in a recipe folder. You can search evernote by title, which is great; but recently became a premium subscriber, which searches very well inside photos, so no need for alphabets.
    I also tag them by course / ingredient / my own codes such as "lazy" "fast" "healthy" "so bad it's good" "try soon". And have a "shopping list" tag to add on. Unlike recipe apps, which I tried, evernote also holds my entire life. And has a web clipper so can clip recipes from websites! And works across all platforms.

    I should be paid for the amount of times I mention how amazing evernote is during the day to my co-workers. Who purely to shut me up have all downloaded it, and love it.

    But it's so handy for all cooking / recipe related stuff. Save all the instructions for cooker conversions, etc!

    By the way, don't bother with seperate app "evernote food", find ordinary evernote more than enough - which also has my travel details / work projects / notes on films I want to see / thesis folders / scans of bills/receipts/expenses / tips. If evernote go bust, my life will fall apart.


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