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Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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  • #2492
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    kylith wrote: »
    I'd have thought you'd be using TG as a shopping list. "Ah, a Bugatti, must get one of those. Hmmm, the new Audi doesn't look great, won't bother with that".

    I don't need some loud-mouthed bore driving a car around a track while chuckling and laughing away to himself to inform my car purchasing decisions. There are a number of excellent car review websites that are far more informative. A good test drive will also give you a feel for the car. Oh, and I'd never even think of buying an Audi. BMW man all the way. A superior marque in every way.


  • #2493
    Eutow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    I don't need some loud-mouthed bore driving a car around a track while chuckling and laughing away to himself to inform my car purchasing decisions. There are a number of excellent car review websites that are far more informative. A good test drive will also give you a feel for the car. Oh, and I'd never even think of buying an Audi. BMW man all the way. A superior marque in every way.



    Now, I see why. The cock-o-metre episode. Tsk Tsk. See, Top Gear is informative.


  • #2494
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    DeadHand wrote: »
    When you, bizarrely, shoehorn Jimmy Saville into a conversation about Jeremy Clarkson, you are making a comparison between the two.

    But don't worry! You then developed a sense of perspective and compared him to, er, Idi Amin and Charles Manson. Oh, and his supporters to the followers of those two "men".

    Anyway, glad you put down the Guardian long enough to join us on this Sunday afternoon. We'll enjoy you while you're here as I imagine you'll shortly be off to recycle your old pairs of sandals and track down racism/sexism where it isn't and dutifully report it to the relevant thought police.
    Calling someone in the workplace a "Lazy Irish C*nt" is ok in your mind then as long as its said by one of your heros and only Guardian readers could possibly be offended by it ?


  • #2495
    Renegade Mechanic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    I don't need some loud-mouthed bore driving a car around a track while chuckling and laughing away to himself to inform my car purchasing decisions. There are a number of excellent car review websites that are far more informative. A good test drive will also give you a feel for the car. Oh, and I'd never even think of buying an Audi. BMW man all the way. A superior marque in every way.

    What, a poor mans Merc? Tch tch tch tch....
    You do realise what being a bimmer driver in high level German finance generally means, don't you? :)


  • #2496
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    tipptom wrote: »
    Calling someone in the workplace a "Lazy Irish C*nt" is ok

    No, it isn't. I never said it was. Nor is it a crime that puts him on a par with Jimmy Savile, Idi Amin and Charles Manson.
    in your mind then as long as its said by one of your heros

    I wouldn't describe him as my hero by any stretch. I just find him refreshingly chaotic in an increasingly sterile, inoffensive media world.
    and only Guardian readers could possibly be offended by it ?

    No, but it helps.


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  • #2497
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    DeadHand wrote: »
    No, it isn't. I never said it was. Nor is it a crime that puts him on a par with Jimmy Savile, Idi Amin and Charles Manson.



    I wouldn't describe him as my hero by any stretch. I just find him refreshingly chaotic in an increasingly sterile, inoffensive media world.



    No, but it helps.

    Nobody put him on par with Jimmy Saville, Idi Amin, or Charles Manson.

    I find your inference there er .. refreshingly chaotic :confused:


  • #2498
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Nobody put him on par with Jimmy Saville, Idi Amin, or Charles Manson.

    I find your inference there er .. refreshingly chaotic :confused:
    Seems it could be a good defence buzzword for solicitor's all over the country when they are defending bullies found guilty of unprovoked racist assaults.


    "Mlud,we seek community service for my client as he was only being"refreshingly chaotic" when he assaulted the victim last Saturday night while drunk" and a lot of like minded people like him.


  • #2499
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    tipptom wrote: »
    Seems it could be a good defence buzzword for solicitor's all over the country when they are defending bullies found guilty of unprovoked racist assaults.


    "Mlud,we seek community service for my client as he was only being"refreshingly chaotic" when he assaulted the victim last Saturday night while drunk" and a lot of like minded people like him.

    Indeed,indeed, one would indeed wonder are these people who try to defend Clarksons behaviour and refer to him as 'refreshingly chaotic' secretly getting their kicks from his boorish behaviour and wishing they could carry on the same way,cocking a snoop at the fundamental laws of the land,and behaving like insensitive boors in foreign countries all on taxpayers shekels, the 'donut lads' of the past decade spring to mind, harmless but mindless idiots who loved making noise and trying to draw attention to themselves.

    Someone with a degree in sociology will get a PhD out of this stuff:p


  • #2500
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    BMW man all the way. A superior marque in every way.
    Nothing says "I deal drugs to kids" quite like a BMW, eh?


  • #2501
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Nothing says "I deal drugs to kids" quite like a BMW, eh?

    Now that's like saying all truck drivers murder prostitutes.


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  • #2502
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Nothing says "I deal drugs to kids" quite like a BMW, eh?

    What? Your post makes absolutely no sense, Billy.


  • #2503
    Shep_Dog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Shep_Dog


    If Jeremy Clarkson did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.


  • #2504
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Nobody put him on par with Jimmy Saville, Idi Amin, or Charles Manson

    Actually, you did in your righteous PC fury.

    Almost choked on your organic, free trade muesli you did.


  • #2505
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    tipptom wrote: »
    Seems it could be a good defence buzzword

    It's two words.


  • #2506
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Indeed,indeed, one would indeed wonder are these people who try to defend Clarksons behaviour and refer to him as 'refreshingly chaotic' secretly getting their kicks from his boorish behaviour and wishing they could carry on the same way,cocking a snoop at the fundamental laws of the land,and behaving like insensitive boors in foreign countries all on taxpayers shekels, the 'donut lads' of the past decade spring to mind, harmless but mindless idiots who loved making noise and trying to draw attention to themselves.

    Someone with a degree in sociology will get a PhD out of this stuff:p

    A sadly black and white way to look at things. You either submit totally to the "Clarkson is the devil" dogma of the handwringers or you are yourself a hooligan.

    What a beige chap you are!


  • #2507
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    DeadHand wrote: »
    A sadly black and white way to look at things. You either submit totally to the "Clarkson is the devil" dogma of the handwringers or you are yourself a hooligan.

    What a beige chap you are!

    Let's keep this discussion civil, shall we.

    Bottom line, Clarkson stepped over the mark,supported up by a stratum of society which, apparently, supports that kind of behaviour.

    The obvious results followed,most civilised people would accept that this lad was way out of order working for a state funded corporation.

    Let's see if the private sector is prepared to sink huge funds into a seriously damaged concept.


  • #2508
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    What? Your post makes absolutely no sense, Billy.

    To put it another way, there is a distinct lack of class to a BMW.


  • #2509
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Billy86 wrote: »
    To put it another way, there is a distinct lack of class to a BMW.

    New money. :rolleyes:


  • #2510
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Let's make this clear, shall we, so even the rabid Clarkson bashers can understand this.
    It is perfectly possible to still like him as a person, but condemn his actions on the day.
    Example: (I hope this doesn't strain your poor, little, one-dimensional brains too much)
    "I think Clarkson is an amusing and entertaining broadcaster and he created a lot of entertaining shows. However I don't think that hitting his producer is alright and the BBC had not choice in letting him go. I hope he will make more entertaining programs in the future. We're all human and all of us have made mistakes, it's not like he raped children or committed mass murder"
    This is opposed to the sort of Bogeyman approach by some of the more rabid and foam-dripping posters. Their analysis seems to be more like: "Oh my God! He hit someone! He's Histories Greatest Monster! Let's gather out pitchforks and torches and throw him into a dungeon and tell our children terrifying nursery rhymes about him!".
    One approach takes a more nuanced and intelligent kind of mind, can you spot which one? You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. And I am entitled to call you a moron for it. Thanks and good night.

    Unless of course you can honestly say that you have never in your entire life lost the rag and screamed at someone, behaved impatiently, became pushy or just in general acted like a jerk.
    If you haven't and you have been reasonable, patient and unfailingly polite, you are a freak and I hope I will be many, MANY miles away when you finally blow.


  • #2511
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    I don't share the hate for Clarkson either - always found him to be just a messer, probably not really as bad as he tried to come across. He is coming out of this incident as fairly ok too (unlike some of his utterly drooling fans).

    But when did it become "PC" to object to thumping someone and calling them a "lazy Irish [or anything] cuntt"? :confused:


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  • #2512
    Mint Aero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    I don't share the hate for Clarkson either - always found him to be just a messer, probably not really as bad as he tried to come across. He is coming out of this incident as fairly ok too (unlike some of his utterly drooling fans)


    Dgfybfyhhdsd045+65

    *wipes drool from keyboard*

    I agree, ol' clarky boy is coming out on top :) the legend.


  • #2513
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    But when did it become "PC" to object to thumping someone and calling them a "lazy Irish [or anything] cuntt"? :confused:
    Generally you will find people who lack intelligence love to fling around talking points and/or phrases because they struggle to think for themselves, or at the very least to articulate their opinions. 'PC' is probably the prime offender, on AH at least... my favourite example being when someone was giving out about a car being 'PC' (not even a hybrid car or anything of the sort... think it might have been a standard Toyota). :pac:

    Basically, 'PC' on AH doesn't mean 'politically correct' so much as 'something I do not like'. It's equal parts amusing and worrying.


  • #2514
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Let's make this clear, shall we, so even the rabid Clarkson bashers can understand this.
    It is perfectly possible to still like him as a person, but condemn his actions on the day.
    Example: (I hope this doesn't strain your poor, little, one-dimensional brains too much)...

    One approach takes a more nuanced and intelligent kind of mind, can you spot which one?

    Ah here. :pac::D

    The abuse of a subordinate is not a very admirable quality, and if you saw somebody abusing someone like that right in front of you, I'm guessing you wouldn't think much of them. It's bully boy behaviour.

    I love the ham-fisted attempt to insult the intelligence of anyone who is seriously put off Clarkson because of this very unsavoury event.

    Up there with someone earlier in the thread claiming one needed to be on a higher plane of intelligence to enjoy the programmes the decidedly middlebrow James May presents. :D:D:D

    Come on, Dr., you're better than this.


  • #2515
    Mint Aero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Oh dear. The jizz circle is off again :D


  • #2516
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Oh dear. The jizz circle is off again :D

    Nah, the jizz circle all thanked this post:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95063421&postcount=2535


  • #2517
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Generally you will find people who lack intelligence love to fling around talking points and/or phrases because they struggle to think for themselves, or at the very least to articulate their opinions.

    Reminds me of:

    "Excuse me, but "proactive" and "paradigm"? Aren't these just buzzwords that dumb people use to sound important?"

    :pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • #2518
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    Nah, the jizz circle all thanked this post:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95063421&postcount=2535

    It was a bloody good post. Why shouldn't it be thanked?

    True too.

    So much hate and intolerance for Clarkson and those who refuse to join in the mob pillioring of the man. All this despite the fact he admitted that he was wrong (he was) and attempted to apologise.

    He's been compared to mass murderers by the more excitable among his critics here and anyone who refuses to join in the gleeful group condemnation has been subjected to fairly sniffy comments and implications about their level of intelligence, tolerance of violence and place in society.

    This despite the fact not one poster here has claimed his actions were right and acceptable.

    His actions were blown out of all proportion.

    Yet, anyone pointing out this fact is painted here as some kind of thug and promoter of violence in full approval of Clarkson's actions.


  • #2519
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    DeadHand wrote: »
    It was a bloody good post. Why shouldn't it be thanked?

    :D Shocking.


  • #2520
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    :D Shocking.

    Far superior to your own aggressively smug but ultimately empty contributions at least.


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  • #2521
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Far superior to your own aggressively smug but ultimately empty contributions at least.
    How are they empty? Seems like you're just saying that purely because they're in disagreement with you.

    The level of emptiness of some of the posts that are in agreement with you is a sight to behold.


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