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Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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  • #2462
    Mint Aero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    once they get the right team to present it.

    They had the right team.


  • #2463
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    They had the right team.

    No they hadn't.

    They had a team which appealed to a certain stratum of society,a stratum which is, it would appear, is comfortable with racist utterances ,nationalistic taunting, employee assault and such like.

    Reasonable people would bury this lot with great haste,however a corps of viewers who would chose to ignore these transgressions,as it seems they would in their own lives, chose to defend thes people and try to portray those who called for some action from a publicly funded corporation as some kind of cranks and imbeciles.

    This lot want sweeping out and a team who is prepared to adopt the mores and rules of normal society hired if necessary.
    Personally I feel the notion of 'car programmes' is past its sell by, and needs a full clean out .


  • #2464
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Kirby wrote: »
    Clarkson lost his job along with Hammond and May, the BBC lost the rest of this series of top gear, the producer who got assaulted will end up producing a less popular show.....frankly every one lost.

    Hammond and May made their own decisions. If they'd wanted to stay they could have.


  • #2465
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    kylith wrote: »
    Hammond and May made their own decisions. If they'd wanted to stay they could have.

    I think i remember from the time Hammond had his accident, that they (Clarkson, May) would have quit if Hammond wouldnt have been able to come back since they were a team.

    Same thing now another one of the team didnt have his contract renewed. Because that is what happened. He wasnt fired.


  • #2466
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    inforfun wrote: »
    Same thing now another one of the team didnt have his contract renewed. Because that is what happened. He wasnt fired.

    Yes, everyone knows that. Hello two weeks ago.


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  • #2467
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    No they hadn't.

    They had a team which appealed to a certain stratum of society,a stratum which is, it would appear, is comfortable with racist utterances ,nationalistic taunting, employee assault and such like.

    Reasonable people would bury this lot with great haste,however a corps of viewers who would chose to ignore these transgressions,as it seems they would in their own lives, chose to defend thes people and try to portray those who called for some action from a publicly funded corporation as some kind of cranks and imbeciles.

    This lot want sweeping out and a team who is prepared to adopt the mores and rules of normal society hired if necessary.
    Personally I feel the notion of 'car programmes' is past its sell by, and needs a full clean out .

    Oh, I bet you're a Guardian reader, right? :P
    Do you own a bicycle and Birkenstocks? Are you angry a lot about the environment and climate change? I bet you like to "educate" people on those matters and you get upset when they watch Top Gear instead.:D
    Now if you excuse me, I am off to eat a raw steak, shout at the waiter and make sexist/racist remarks. Clarkson told me to do it! Because I watch TG, I have no mind of my own. Unlike some people who definitely not simply regurgitate the PC line without thinking.


  • #2468
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    Yes, everyone knows that. Hello two weeks ago.


    I am so, sooooooooooooooooo sorry.


  • #2469
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    inforfun wrote: »
    I am so, sooooooooooooooooo sorry.

    I understand the butthurt, nobody likes to be told they are spouting news so old that it's growing weeds.


  • #2470
    mad muffin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    Yes, everyone knows that. Hello two weeks ago.
    inforfun wrote: »
    I am so, sooooooooooooooooo sorry.
    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    I understand the butthurt, nobody likes to be told they are spouting news so old that it's growing weeds.

    FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!


  • #2471
    Mint Aero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    No they hadn't.

    They had a team which appealed to a certain stratum of society,a stratum which is, it would appear, is comfortable with racist utterances ,nationalistic taunting, employee assault and such like.

    Reasonable people would bury this lot with great haste,however a corps of viewers who would chose to ignore these transgressions,as it seems they would in their own lives, chose to defend thes people and try to portray those who called for some action from a publicly funded corporation as some kind of cranks and imbeciles.

    This lot want sweeping out and a team who is prepared to adopt the mores and rules of normal society hired if necessary.
    Personally I feel the notion of 'car programmes' is past its sell by, and needs a full clean out .

    :rolleyes: Yes, just 5% of the entire population of the planet :rolleyes::rolleyes: I couldn't do a facepalm big enough for your entire post.


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  • #2472
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    mad muffin wrote: »
    FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

    Nah, I'm a noodle-armed choirgirl. :pac:

    Bonus points for anyone who can spot the reference!


  • #2473
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Examples of human behaviour Grandpa, not comparisons.

    And your strategy is to shout everyone else down like Hitler.


  • #2474
    Renegade Mechanic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Yes, just 5% of the entire population of the planet :rolleyes::rolleyes: I couldn't do a facepalm big enough for your entire post.

    Please. Allow me to try.


  • #2475
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    And your strategy is to shout everyone else down like Hitler.

    Not quite sure what that post refers to Dr.


  • #2476
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    I've made no secret of the fact that I'm Clarky boys biggest number 1 fan :D
    I even wrote a song, if I may?

    *Ahem*

    We love you Clarkson we do
    We love you Clarkson we do
    We love you Clarkson we do
    Oh Clarkson, we love you!

    Everyone now! :D
    Bet you would be the one in court if the producer had pressed charges for assault with the sign,"Your the leader of our gang Jezza".


  • #2477
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Not quite sure what that post refers to Dr.

    It's just a comparison, you said it was OK, so I'm following a tenuous link. Since comparing Clarkson to Saville is valid, so is this.


  • #2478
    P. Breathnach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    It's just a comparison, you said it was OK, so I'm following a tenuous link. Since comparing Clarkson to Saville is valid, so is this.
    No reasonable person would compare Clarkson to Saville, and I don't think that has been done in this thread.

    But it has to be recognised that the BBC learned a salutary lesson from the Saville affair, and that it will no longer sweep bad behaviour under the carpet.


  • #2479
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    P. Breathnach wrote: »
    No reasonable person would compare Clarkson to Saville, and I don't think that has been done in this thread.

    But it has to be recognised that the BBC learned a salutary lesson from the Saville affair, and that it will no longer sweep bad behaviour under the carpet.

    Have you read it?


  • #2480
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    I did not compare Clarkson to Jimmy Saville, I was responding to a post which implied that the poster considered the behaviour of media presenters was not relevant.

    I put forward the point that is was relevant.

    However you will always get the 'die hards' who chose to ignore all this as long as their man or woman delivers their brand of 'entertainment'.

    After all, Idi Amin had his followers, Charles Manson had his acolytes, who chose to ignore their morality as 'not relevant'

    Interesting humN behaviour study, Ph.D there for somebody :rolleyes:
    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    It's just a comparison, you said it was OK, so I'm following a tenuous link. Since comparing Clarkson to Saville is valid, so is this.
    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Have you read it?

    As you no doubt will have read that's not what I said.


  • #2481
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    A braver Director-general of the BBC than Tony Hall would make the decision to axe the entire show. It's a show that is as contrived and tired as any on prime-time UK and Ireland television. Use that slot to make a show that educates and informs rather than one which appeals to the lowest common denominator. They can continue to watch the re-runs on Dave.


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  • #2482
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    As you no doubt will have read that's not what I said.

    When you, bizarrely, shoehorn Jimmy Saville into a conversation about Jeremy Clarkson, you are making a comparison between the two.

    But don't worry! You then developed a sense of perspective and compared him to, er, Idi Amin and Charles Manson. Oh, and his supporters to the followers of those two "men".

    Anyway, glad you put down the Guardian long enough to join us on this Sunday afternoon. We'll enjoy you while you're here as I imagine you'll shortly be off to recycle your old pairs of sandals and track down racism/sexism where it isn't and dutifully report it to the relevant thought police.


  • #2483
    Grandpa Hassan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    A braver Director-general of the BBC than Tony Hall would make the decision to axe the entire show. It's a show that is as contrived and tired as any on prime-time UK and Ireland television. Use that slot to make a show that educates and informs rather than one which appeals to the lowest common denominator. They can continue to watch the re-runs on Dave.

    How does it feel up there, looking down on the rest of us 'lowest common denominator' folk?

    I pray that the day never comes that television is nothing but educational and informative


  • #2484
    Eutow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    A braver Director-general of the BBC than Tony Hall would make the decision to axe the entire show. It's a show that is as contrived and tired as any on prime-time UK and Ireland television. Use that slot to make a show that educates and informs rather than one which appeals to the lowest common denominator. They can continue to watch the re-runs on Dave.


    Are you always on?


    You like looking down on people from that ivory tower you inhibit. Television should not only inform and educate it should also entertain, which Top Gear did. What do you watch?


  • #2485
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Eutow wrote: »
    Are you always on?


    You like looking down on people from that ivory tower you inhibit. Television should not only inform and educate it should also entertain, which Top Gear did. What do you watch?

    Don't bite.

    It's clearly a comedy account.


  • #2486
    P. Breathnach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Have you read it?
    Yes. All of it.

    I'm a sad case.


  • #2487
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Eutow wrote: »
    Are you always on?


    You like looking down on people from that ivory tower you inhibit. Television should not only inform and educate it should also entertain, which Top Gear did. What do you watch?

    What does Top Gear teach? That expensive cars tend to go fast and that middle-aged men shouldn't wear that much denim? That jocular banter gets really boring after a while?


  • #2488
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    P. Breathnach wrote: »
    Yes. All of it.

    I'm a sad case.

    LOL! Guilty too.

    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    A braver Director-general of the BBC than Tony Hall would make the decision to axe the entire show. It's a show that is as contrived and tired as any on prime-time UK and Ireland television. Use that slot to make a show that educates and informs rather than one which appeals to the lowest common denominator. They can continue to watch the re-runs on Dave.

    We've had that already, it will be the Black, Vegan, Muslim Lesbian show on Public Transport.
    Or The BVMLPT Show.
    Of course you are right, Top Gear is an utter failure, that must be why only 300 million or so people view it and the format has been franchised to several countries. :rolleyes:
    Good thing that you have absolutely no say in the matter whatsoever.
    The dogs are barking, but the train keeps on rolling.


  • #2489
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    What does Top Gear teach? That expensive cars tend to go fast and that middle-aged men shouldn't wear that much denim? That jocular banter gets really boring after a while?

    I'd have thought you'd be using TG as a shopping list. "Ah, a Bugatti, must get one of those. Hmmm, the new Audi doesn't look great, won't bother with that".


  • #2490
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    What does Top Gear teach? That expensive cars tend to go fast and that middle-aged men shouldn't wear that much denim? That jocular banter gets really boring after a while?

    It will also teach you to get round their track faster than a Veyron in a Caterham at a fraction of the price.
    If you don't like Top Gear, don't watch! Why would you expend your energy on something you don't like? I fcuking hate X-Factor. You know what I do? I don't watch that crap and I don't waste a thought on it. Problem solved!


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  • #2491
    Eutow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    What does Top Gear teach? That expensive cars tend to go fast and that middle-aged men shouldn't wear that much denim? That jocular banter gets really boring after a while?


    It entertained people, fulfilling one of TV's aims. Like I said it doesn't all have to be educational. It may not have entertained you but you are just one person. People who watch Top Gear can also like historical documentaries or whatever, it's not one or the other.


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