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Sanchez83 · 31-03-2015 11:18PM

angeldaisy wrote: »

I've been looking round at inset stoves, these are the ones I have been recommended;

Riva 55 : Boru 400i : Faro 600i

Would these be the best ones?

How much should I expect to pay to get it fitted, one quote came in around 900 for fittings and labour. Does that seem reasonable? The chimney is quite tall, we need 6mtrs of lining.

Hi,

Fitting costs should be similar regardless which you choose.
Assuming the e900 includes the stove connection pipes,flexible liners,vermiculite,chimney cowl etc it's not too bad.These stoves will not fit a standard opening(assume you meant Boru 600) so some work will be needed to convert the opening etc.There is easily a full days work in it.
Materials approx e400-e500 so you are being charged e400-e500 for labour.Assuming the guy has good reports on previous jobs I don't think you will do much better.
A cowboy maybe but not worth the risk IMO.

Anna76 · 01-04-2015 08:01AM

Hi,

Hoping to get some advice on insert stoves. Looking at the Henley achill 6.6kw, aarow ecoburn 7 and Inis Inisbofin 5kw. All being sold by same shop who fit and have a good reputation. Would appreciate any thoughts on which you think would be best. Room is 16x14ft with two large windows and double door into kitchen, good insulation. Online calculator says 4-5kw. Any advice much appreciated.

Sanchez83 · 01-04-2015 08:16AM

3 of the best insert stoves on the market.
You really couldn't go wrong with any of them.
Pick which every you prefer really as I couldn't put one over the other bar personal preference.

Anna76 · 01-04-2015 08:40AM

Sanchez83 wrote: »

3 of the best insert stoves on the market.
You really couldn't go wrong with any of them.
Pick which every you prefer really as I couldn't put one over the other bar personal preference.

Thanks Sanchez can you let me know which you would pick, I'd value your opinion☺

martinr5232 · 01-04-2015 09:49AM

I have the hendly in for the past three months and i really couldnt fault it.

Anna76 · 01-04-2015 09:56AM

martinr5232 wrote: »

I have the hendly in for the past three months and i really couldnt fault it.

Thanks that's the first one I looked at and the cheaper of the three so might go for that.

angeldaisy · 01-04-2015 11:09AM

Sanchez83 wrote: »

Hi,

Fitting costs should be similar regardless which you choose.
Assuming the e900 includes the stove connection pipes,flexible liners,vermiculite,chimney cowl etc it's not too bad.These stoves will not fit a standard opening(assume you meant Boru 600) so some work will be needed to convert the opening etc.There is easily a full days work in it.
Materials approx e400-e500 so you are being charged e400-e500 for labour.Assuming the guy has good reports on previous jobs I don't think you will do much better.
A cowboy maybe but not worth the risk IMO.

As far as I know, he said these stoves would not need any structural work doing, only maybe an inch or so. The Boru he said was the 400i, not sure if there is any difference dimensionally.

Are these decent enough stoves or should I be looking at other models. I just want something that is good quality that I'm not going to be replacing in a few years.

fifib · 02-04-2015 12:29PM

was recently recommended the Arrow i400T cassette style insert stove. looking for something modern to fit a fairly large chimney area and we were 99% sure on this until we were told it actually wasnt suitable afterall as its not suitable for external air....so back to drawing board
Anyone know of anything similar in style and look that would be suitable and 6-8kw max??

bigdawg · 02-04-2015 01:00PM

fifib wrote: »

was recently recommended the Arrow i400T cassette style insert stove. looking for something modern to fit a fairly large chimney area and we were 99% sure on this until we were told it actually wasnt suitable afterall as its not suitable for external air....so back to drawing board
Anyone know of anything similar in style and look that would be suitable and 6-8kw max??

Check out Meg stoves. British made. Available exclusively from Olden's in Carrigaline. We have the 4.5 Contemporary Casette and its a beast. Best thing i have every bought.

arbf1 · 02-04-2015 01:05PM

I measured the rads this morning

kitchen 110x50cm new double
sitting room (where stove will be) 195x50cm old single
hall 118x60cm old double
bathroom 112x60cm new double
bedroomA 170x50cm old single
bedroomB 170x50cm old single
attic roomA 144x50cm old single
attic roomB 100x50cm new double

hot water cylinder is 65cm high and 35cm wide (couldn't see capacity written anywhere on it).

They are a right mix of shapes and sizes that were in house when we bought it. Like I said some of the older single rads...particularly in bedrooms may need replacing. It'd mean so much to me if you could give opinions on kw needed based on these measurements.

fifib · 02-04-2015 01:14PM

bigdawg wrote: »

Check out Meg stoves. British made. Available exclusively from Olden's in Carrigaline. We have the 4.5 Contemporary Casette and its a beast. Best thing i have every bought.

thanks bigdawg, just did quick google on it there, looks nice. couldnt see any info on whether its got external air or suitable for airtight house - do you know if it has? also you mind me asking a ball park on price?

Sanchez83 · 02-04-2015 06:41PM

Anna76 wrote: »

Thanks Sanchez can you let me know which you would pick, I'd value your opinion☺

I'd pick the Henley Achill as it's a reasonable price and a great stove.
Probably go for the Ecoburn second.
The Boffin is a very good stove but slightly overpriced imo.If you preferred it however then you wouldn't be disappointed.

Sanchez83 · 02-04-2015 06:45PM

fifib wrote: »

was recently recommended the Arrow i400T cassette style insert stove. looking for something modern to fit a fairly large chimney area and we were 99% sure on this until we were told it actually wasnt suitable afterall as its not suitable for external air....so back to drawing board
Anyone know of anything similar in style and look that would be suitable and 6-8kw max??

Henley Faro 500 or 55 cassettes would be around 8kw and suitable for external air.They have a Faro 400 coming later in the summer which would be 6-7kw.
External air stoves are not easily available yet as most stove manufacturers are only playing catch up to the new building regulations.

Sanchez83 · 02-04-2015 06:54PM

arbf1 wrote: »

I measured the rads this morning

kitchen 110x50cm new double
sitting room (where stove will be) 195x50cm old single
hall 118x60cm old double
bathroom 112x60cm new double
bedroomA 170x50cm old single
bedroomB 170x50cm old single
attic roomA 144x50cm old single
attic roomB 100x50cm new double

hot water cylinder is 65cm high and 35cm wide (couldn't see capacity written anywhere on it).

They are a right mix of shapes and sizes that were in house when we bought it. Like I said some of the older single rads...particularly in bedrooms may need replacing. It'd mean so much to me if you could give opinions on kw needed based on these measurements.

Ya I was quiet close with estimate.Works out around 15.6kw to the water so a good nominal heat output 21kw boiler stove should do the job.
Stratford EB16,Boru Carrig Mor 20kw and Henley Druid would be some of the usual suspects and safe bets.
Saw and had a good look today at the Broseley Evolution 26,looks a savage machine. 16kw to water and 10kw to room(but I doubt any boiler stove would give 10kw to room). Build quality and finish looked A1 and I personally really liked the look of it,nice and modern.

Sanchez83 · 02-04-2015 06:59PM

angeldaisy wrote: »

As far as I know, he said these stoves would not need any structural work doing, only maybe an inch or so. The Boru he said was the 400i, not sure if there is any difference dimensionally.

Are these decent enough stoves or should I be looking at other models. I just want something that is good quality that I'm not going to be replacing in a few years.

The Boru 400 would not give the same heat as the Stovax 55 or Faro 600. If you were given 3 options then the Boru 600i is what should have been advised.
All 3 are good brands,the Stovax and Faro have cleaner lines and better finish. But the Boru will also do what it says on the tin and possibly a bit cheaper.
The Arrow i600 is another good one to consider.

arbf1 · 02-04-2015 07:27PM

Thanks Sanchez, do you think the druid 21kw would do? The manual says 13kw to water...am I too focused on this? would it really go a little further than it says. OH says we prob not even getting a quarter of that output to rads with crappy back boiler in open fire currently so it'll be a big improvement...I'm a sceptic though, if I need bigger I will get it. I have to admit though the firebox on the 21kw was MASSIVE in showroom the other day, it would take filling, and it was so big in fireplace...they didn't have the 25kw on display (in fact they aren't even listed in new henley brochure) but know it is bigger again and salesman did say it and the 30kw are often used in big old stone farmhouses with lots more rooms and area than my little cottage (and a free supply of timber often). If anything he should have been encouraging me to size up to spend more but he didn't. Personally think there's hardly that much difference but I want to get it right. what do you think?

Sanchez83 · 02-04-2015 08:02PM

Henley website says it's 15kw and 6 kW.You probably have an old brochure.
21kw should do fine,25kw would be a waste.

arbf1 · 02-04-2015 10:49PM

This is correct I just checked the website

Did they actually change stove or just change figures? Maybe new figures just more accurate rep. of what it was giving. If they did alter it how could I be sure I get the new rather than the old model?

Any other opinions on the henley druid 21 anyone?

SoapFan27 · 03-04-2015 08:09AM

Big Nelly wrote: »

Nice job,.......

Just one question, have you had any issues with the glass getting dirty from the fire? it seems every so often after I have a good fire going the glass will be dirty, not sure what I am doing wrong

Hey, I just cleaned this successfully off, after my Dad told me what he does. Used damp kitchen roll and ash from the fire, all came off perfectly. We are only burning wood so be careful if you are burning other things as I read somewhere that ash can be abrasive.

k123456 · 03-04-2015 09:20AM

SoapFan27 wrote: »

Hey, I just cleaned this successfully off, after my Dad told me what he does. Used damp kitchen roll and ash from the fire, all came off perfectly. We are only burning wood so be careful if you are burning other things as I read somewhere that ash can be abrasive.

Just to add, if glass gets very dirty, it is very easy to thoroughly clean every 2/3 months

Remove glass
lay on paper , in a garage or shed
Spray oven cleaner, wait 30 mins, and rinse off

kingjp1st · 10-04-2015 06:35PM

Sanchez83 wrote: »

Ya I was quiet close with estimate.Works out around 15.6kw to the water so a good nominal heat output 21kw boiler stove should do the job.
Stratford EB16,Boru Carrig Mor 20kw and Henley Druid would be some of the usual suspects and safe bets.
Saw and had a good look today at the Broseley Evolution 26,looks a savage machine. 16kw to water and 10kw to room(but I doubt any boiler stove would give 10kw to room). Build quality and finish looked A1 and I personally really liked the look of it,nice and modern.

I love the look of that Broseley Evolution 26, I see it is wood burning only. Is there anything similar that allows you to burn coal?

Sanchez83 · 10-04-2015 07:38PM

Firebelly stoves might have something similar.
I'm not up on their full range but they have some nice modern stuff.
Do a quick google and see if they have a big boiler stove.

kingjp1st · 10-04-2015 07:48PM

Sanchez83 wrote: »

Firebelly stoves might have something similar.
I'm not up on their full range but they have some nice modern stuff.
Do a quick google and see if they have a big boiler stove.

Will do Sanchez83, thank you

kingjp1st · 10-04-2015 08:05PM

Has anybody any opinions on The Faro 700 21kw Boiler insert stove?

Its on the Henley stoves website under Cassette Fires.

Sanchez83 · 10-04-2015 08:30PM

Looks like Firebelly don't do boiler stoves.
Oh well.

kingjp1st · 10-04-2015 09:02PM

Sanchez83 wrote: »

Looks like Firebelly don't do boiler stoves.
Oh well.

No unfortunately not but thanks anyway. What do you think of the Henley Faro range?

philboy · 13-04-2015 08:36AM

Hi,
I'm looking for an insert boiler stove for a house with 12 rads. The room for the stove is 12x20ft with a standard fireplace opening. What options would I be looking at or is it even possible to get an insert stove for this setup?

Thanks.

paulers06 · 16-04-2015 08:27PM

Looking at a semi d house with a gas fire against the dividing wall between the 2 houses. There is no proper chimney. Is it possible to put a stove in? Thanks

k123456 · 17-04-2015 08:05AM

paulers06 wrote: »

Looking at a semi d house with a gas fire against the dividing wall between the 2 houses. There is no proper chimney. Is it possible to put a stove in? Thanks

Could you position your stove against an external wall, flue would be on external wall, preferably rear or gable,

dara.obriain · 18-04-2015 11:22PM

Hi all, looking for a double-sided stove in the 5-7 kW range that doesn't cost the earth , preferably less than a grand. Boru is the only one I can see but it's way too big 12kw. Just a roomheater by the way, no back boiler. Would very much appreciate any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

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