STOVES questions and answers here(see mod note in post 1)

Sanchez83

Hi,
Not too many options on the market.
The smallest I have seen is the Kratki Koza K8 tunnel.
However you can only burn wood and peat in it,no coal.

bobboberson

Hello,

I'm looking for a little help, is a bad idea to put a 30kw stove into a house that only really need a 25 max kw. Is it bad for the system or is it just a case of using to much fuel


Anthony

Jane98

Looking for a 9-10kw room heating multi-fuel freestanding stove. Any recommendations?

Also can anyone recommend a good website that you can buy from online or at least get a feel for approximate prices.

hometruths

Looking for recommendations for a stove that will heat 14 rads and have a fairly chunky output to the room. No hot water heating requirement.

Old farmhouse with own supply of firewood so not too worried about overcooking the efficiency.

Any pointers much appreciated.

willsandbills

I have been reading and reading so reckon its time to ask for some help. I'm starting a new build and the inset stove (wood burning only ) is mainly for aesthetic purposes. Room will have underfloor and good solar gain. i thought my choice would be easy, pick a stove pop it in new chimney and done !!! The room is about 5 m by 5 m by 5 meters high. living room.The house will be a SIP panel house.
I don't want to spend 2 or 3 thousand so have come down on a Krakti jas inset stove ( its 3 to 9 KW rated). It seems I need to build a hot air space within the new chimney breast to allow heat to vent from outside into room. I had assumed all the heat would come from the glass.
Just wondering if anyone here has done that or may have suggestions.

Sanchez83

Hi,

To the best of my knowledge you don't need to build a hot air space for a vent but technically speaking it would give off more heat as you won't waste the heat from the flue.
I think the Kratki Jas is a Woodburning only stove...?
Kratki are a decent Polish brand,quality looks very good and robust.Price seems also reasonable.

celtic_oz

looking for a multifuel ( coal burning! ) stove that looks like this or similar



Cant find any except wood burning .. hate the square look for the sunroom!.

TIA

Sanchez83

I am not aware of any multifuel contemporary stove like this on the market.
Most countries burn primarily wood.
Good timber with a low moisture content is as good as coal.

k123456

celtic_oz wrote: »

looking for a multifuel ( coal burning! ) stove that looks like this or similar



Cant find any except wood burning .. hate the square look for the sunroom!.

TIA

perhaps :

http://www.unipipe.ie/index.cfm?area=page&action=pageselect&menuid=220&ancestorlist=0

PS i think must wood burning stoves are actually multi fuel, I think pure wood does not have a grate, where the ash falls thru to a pan

multi fuel has a grate (maybe someone of the forum could confirm)

Sanchez83

Wood burns best on a flatbed on a bed of its own ashes.
However most european manufacturers will state wood only regardless of the grate as coal will ruin any stove over time,Woodburning or multifuel.
We need to get away from the fascination of burning coal and turf in this country.Good dry timber is better or as good in nearly every way.

Cerco

Early stage of thinking about a stove for a bungalow. Which would be best, to get one with a boiler or without?

I see that max temp for impeller pump, for shower, taps etc is 65*C. Would this be a big issue? Any other issues/costs I would need to consider when hot tank is on same level as a stove boiler?

biddy21

Hi, I got a concept solid fuel stove fitted just before christmas. The two esb bills I have got since have increased, apparently now we are using about 22 units a day where we used to use 17. I thought that now we are not using the electric shower at all and we have boiling water most of the time, that the bill would come down. Would anyone know if the pump on the cooker would account for the rise in electricity use? It was used all day for over christmas but generally only being lit in the evening.
Thanks for any help

willsandbills

i would not think so, if you check the manual as to what the pump is rated at, it would be easier to tell you.
However it always seems the christmas bills are higher.

A great idea is an Owl electricity monitor or equivalent, that way you can see at any point in the day or night exactly what is being consumed. Sometimes the background usage ( i.e. whats being consumed all day every day) can be surprising.

Anyway thats my tuppence worth, I'm sure you will get more exact comments.

biddy21

Thanks for that, but the manual is not the easiest one to read. I expected the christmas bill to be higher (Jan) but not the march one and that one is actually higher.

willsandbills

i presume you mean the circulating pump, it might be visible near stove and you can read off the size , watts ? or maybe HP
If so let us know what it says and then calculate how many hours a week it is turned on.

MayoMagic

Hi all,

About to commit to buying a "Henley Druid" Double Sided stove for the new house, heard one bad review that the grate doesn't last in them and was advised to go with the "Hunter Herald" instead - which is not as pleasing on the eye.

Any experience from anyone here with Hunter or Henley stoves??

Cheers,
P

Jakey Rolling

biddy21 wrote: »

Thanks for that, but the manual is not the easiest one to read. I expected the christmas bill to be higher (Jan) but not the march one and that one is actually higher.

FWIW, our electrical usage goes up from 14 to around 20 units a day over the winter months. Mostly due to circulation pumps running for longer, and also 400w outside lights being on for longer. Had the sensor on one fail, it was running up 4 units a night alone.

baby builder

Hi everyone!

We are starting our new build in the next 8 weeks (finally!!) I'm looking for recommendations on a double sided inset stove (wood-burning) to go between an open plan kitchen living/dining area. There'll be underfloor heating, a MHRV and, with the new regulations, a good standard of insulation (wall u value 0.18, windows 1.1) but it's a large area - just shy of 80sqm. It needs to look pretty too - and not be lost in such a large area. Was thinking of the boru 900i but it seems that can't be fed with external air like the 600 can (after a kit fitted). I hope this is making sense!!

Would really appreciate all words of wisdom and recommendations!

Sanchez83

Hi Mayo Magic,

Whoever told you that must have been burning some serious crap in their stove because the Henley Druid is one of the best quality products on the market.
I've seen a few issues with paint peeling and needing to be re sprayed but never once a problem with the quality of the stove or it's parts.
Hunter Herald are not a popular stove here in Ireland as they are way overpriced for what they are.
Pick up the phone and ring some henley stockists and ask them straight out if they have replaced a Henley Druid grate in the last 6 months,I'd bet no.

Sanchez83

Dik Geurtz have a very nice outside air ready large cassette at the moment.
A bit more expensive than Boru but not overpriced.
If you are looking for value I'm sure Kratki have an outside air large cassette but you would need to contact one of their retailers for further info as they are only getting off the ground here in Ireland but selling in Europe for decades.
Lastly Henley Lisbon 900 is external air ready also and classy looking.

MayoMagic

Sanchez83 wrote: »

Hi Mayo Magic,

Whoever told you that must have been burning some serious crap in their stove because the Henley Druid is one of the best quality products on the market.
I've seen a few issues with paint peeling and needing to be re sprayed but never once a problem with the quality of the stove or it's parts.
Hunter Herald are not a popular stove here in Ireland as they are way overpriced for what they are.
Pick up the phone and ring some henley stockists and ask them straight out if they have replaced a Henley Druid grate in the last 6 months,I'd bet no.

Cheers Sanchez! I've been around to a few stockists today and cannot find a single complaint against the Druid so I'm pretty much convinced to go with it.

Also, it looks like from what I read online that Hunter do not provide an External Air Supply whereas Henley do provide this - so thats another mark against the Hunter I guess.

Sanchez83

The Henley Druid double is not external air ready I'm afraid.
I'm not aware of any double sided freestanding that is actually,maybe the Boru Carrig double but not certain.

MayoMagic

Sanchez83 wrote: »

The Henley Druid double is not external air ready I'm afraid.
I'm not aware of any double sided freestanding that is actually,maybe the Boru Carrig double but not certain.

Crap I was sure they told me it was!
We have a duct already in place supplying air from outside to directly under chimney, I guess it will still be used/drawn by stove just not as effectively without the fittings needed?

arbf1

I installed a Henley Druid 21kw boiler stove into my fireplace after agonizing about it for months...have lit it few evenings with recent cold spell...heat to room is substantially better to my old back boiler and the rads and water are heating to good level too...have only lit wood fires to date but happy so far with it in case anyone considering it.

Sanchez83

Little tip with the Druid boiler but can be used with most good boiler stoves.
Play around with the thermostat each time you light it and see which works best.
Try it at 1 the first night,2 the second etc.You kind of have to match it to your chimney draw.
Once you have found the setting that you think leaves the correct amount of air in through the thermostat you might never have to touch it again,then follow the below.
Open primary air vents and glass cleaner when lighting for approx the first 20mins.Then open the tertiary air underneath the stove after 20mins.then shut down the primary air completely and the glass cleaner 75%.You will find the boiler heat increases big time when shut down like this.
Very important you clean the ashes out everyday to allow air to travel properly as it can block it up a bit.

Sanchez83

MayoMagic wrote: »

Crap I was sure they told me it was!
We have a duct already in place supplying air from outside to directly under chimney, I guess it will still be used/drawn by stove just not as effectively without the fittings needed?

I'm quiet sure it doesn't.
The pipe will bring air into the room like a vent in the wall/window.
So yes the stove will draw as normal but you are correct in that the control won't be as good as it can be.

cocobean

We are considering taking out our Mulberry Yeats Back Boiler and replacing with with a fitted insert stove with a back boiler. Reason for taking out the Yeats is because it was never strong enough to service our rads properly. We need a 17kw output . We have 10 rads in the house with half of those being doubles and the rest singles.

Can anyone recommend a back boiler insert stove that they have had fitted and are happy with.

Thanks in advance.

olestoepoke

Hi guys I've bought a stratford eb20 and a 15kw heat genie, I now need a good plumber to install for me, do you guys have any recommendations cheers

Cks5

Having gone full circle from using oil with a large stove with back boiler to heat over 4500sqf, to pellet boiler, to gshp, we could be back to the oil and stove combo, to heat a thermal store which would run ufh on both floors and hot water for a family of 5.
We should have access to a lot of free or cheap wood and plenty of room to store it.
Does anyone recommend a stove with back boiler and on a side not are we mad going for this option.
The gshp is working out a very expensive install, with the pump, grounds works etc etc. but offset by the rhi scheme up north

hometruths

I am hoping to install boiler stove to do central heating only, not hot water, as per previous post.

if a 20k stove for example has output of 8 to the room and 12 to the water to heat approx 14 rads - if there is no requirement to heat hot water will it heat more rads?

Sorry if that's a dumb question!