Jeremy Clarkson suspended

Dravokivich · 26-03-2015 10:20AM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Clarkson is a boorish lout. He appeals to the moronic 'lad' culture. The type of nitwit who chuckles at the humour found in loaded magazine and has a poster of a "fit bird" hanging in their blue-collared workplace.

Glad to see he is being dropped by the BBC. Should have occurred long ago.

Oddly enough, you remind me of him. so.... Top Boards it is now, starring Aongus as Clarkson.

Who's up for hammond?

I'd say it's between Cap't Midnight and Wibbs for May's slot.

Eutow wrote: »

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So, Oisin's job is to make sure food is ready, is that right? I have seen this mentioned by a few posters already, and I want to know do they think a production assistants job is to provide food for people, but more importantly was it Oisin's job to provide it.

He was described as a Senior Producer in the BBC press release statement yesterday.

dr.fuzzenstein · 26-03-2015 10:21AM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I work in an area where there is a constant risk that staff on duty can be assaulted and injured.
If this occurs it is standard to seek a medical assessment of the injury, especially if there is an obvious injury site and bleeding.
Otherwise individuals, if they do not seek immediate medical attention may reserve the right to gain same the following day, or when symptoms emerge.
An incident report must be submitted however detailing the injury and it's cause and the events leading up to that cause.
Mr Tymon was therefore obliged to seek medical assessment after the blow.
Clarkson did the honourable thing to report the incident the following day.
He also attempted to apologise, but I don't think he was attempting to avoid sanction.
Mr Tymon would have been advised not to have contact with Mr Clarkson by both his union and his employer, pending the outcome of the investigation, mostly for Jeremy's own good, so he couldn't be accused of trying to further intimidate Mr Tymon.
Both parties remained relatively quiet pending the outcome, again as would have been recommended by their representatives and unions.
All things considered I think Jeremy conducted himself with dignity during the whole affair, despite the foolish behaviour that got him there.
It's a pity that he will no longer present Top Gear as, in my opinion, he was always entertaining, in an Alf Garnet way.
Mr Tymon certainly conducted himself properly throughout the process and really was an innocent victim in this unfortunate episode.
I would also suggest that this is the first time we have heard reported such abusive behaviour from Clarkson, particularly the verbal stuff, and this is a man whose every inappropriate word is reported, and as such, is as much a victim of alcohol fueled stupidity as any number of men and women who find themselves in court and police stations as a result of behaviour that they had never indulged in before.
This is probably why I doubt he'll be formally charged with assault at this point.

Wow. I want to thank you for a well thought out, rational and sensible post. You have summed up the whole incident in a manner that the press hasn't managed and certainly no one here has, including me.
Its not often one sees rational sense being talked on AH, usually this is more the reserve for fervered teenage rantings and false bravado by loons and keyboards warriors, but mostly trolls.
If you wrote articles for a paper, I'd be a subscriber. Thanks again, you have restored a little faith in humanity in me.

CruelCoin · 26-03-2015 10:33AM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

The floor is yours.

Nobody reads poor writing, or watchs poor content out of choice.

He has long been a columnist and author, and many, myself included, find his writing style frank and refreshing in this world of red tape, "think of the children" and clipboards.

May for instance is brilliant on his day-time shows, being the travel fan that i am, and Hammond is likewise good at his.

Thier political leanings have nothing to do with their qualities as presenters/writers.

dr.fuzzenstein · 26-03-2015 10:49AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I take it you're doing stereotype parody here. Your complaint was about a poster stereotyping TG fans. So if you're OK with stereotyping then... what's your problem again?

Just joining in the fun. Being the bigger man, not responding to trolls, letting idiotic statements slide, not my strong point. My biggest weakness is responding in kind. So when people read my crap, it is just a mirror image of their own. And no one likes their own crap held under their nose and being told "That's what that smells like to me"
I always found it really funny how people lose their sh*t over that.
I make no apologies for who or what I am, I think we live in a world where a left-wing, pseudo intellectual (i.e. they THINK they are smarter and better) "elite" is telling us to feel guilty all the time. Nuts to that!

AnonoBoy · 26-03-2015 11:00AM

Bench Press wrote: »

Clarkson is very wealthy, confident and successful

But for all his wealth and success he's unable to act like a civilised human being it would seem.

I find all the pandering to these sorts stupid. He punched someone at work - he don't get to work there no more.

Boo-hoo. Cry me a river for the rich millionaire throwing a tantrum like a stroppy toddler.

This clown is lucky he even stayed in the job as long as he did.

CruelCoin · 26-03-2015 11:03AM

Junkyard Cat wrote: »

Not in their current form - the Clarkson presenting style, as it is, is dead and is not coming back. Big businesses are incredibly sensitive to public opinion and Clarkson is a devise figure - any non-insane business will not want to alienate people profit that find him disagreeable.

The problem is that the trio bring in so many viewers, so regularly, that all the enraged mothers and upset grannies in the world changing channel wouldn't offset Top Gears figures.

Chris Evans is being rumoured as a replacement. I wonder who would fill the other two seats.

You are going to go from a refreshing, irreverant take on things to a blank slate, dictated by the men in hard-hats and clipboards. It's going to be terrible. Beneath all the jokes, stunts and faux-idiocy, i think you'll find that there isn't an awfull lot of demand for what Evans could deliver (vanilla car show).

kylith · 26-03-2015 11:06AM

If all three go, which I think is likely, the people who are saying that they won't watch it without them will still tune in the first week back 'to see what gobsheets they have doing it', then they'll tune in the next week so they can continue to complain, then without them even realising it they'll be watching just the same as always, and in a year's time if you ask about Clarkson they'll say 'who?'

AnonoBoy · 26-03-2015 11:09AM

CruelCoin wrote: »

The problem is that the trio bring in so many viewers, so regularly, that all the enraged mothers and upset grannies in the world changing channel wouldn't offset Top Gears figures.

Chris Evans is being rumoured as a replacement. I wonder who would fill the other two seats.

You are going to go from a refreshing, irreverant take on things to a blank slate, dictated by the men in hard-hats and clipboards. It's going to be terrible. Beneath all the jokes, stunts and faux-idiocy, i think you'll find that there isn't an awfull lot of demand for what Evans could deliver (vanilla car show).

The production team will stay though and for all the presenters bring to the show, the production team bring a huge amount to it too.

People think it's all the presenters but look at people like Jonathan Ross who moved channel and his numbers dropped hugely.

MonkeyTennis · 26-03-2015 11:13AM

This thread is insane.

CruelCoin · 26-03-2015 11:23AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

The production team will stay though and for all the presenters bring to the show, the production team bring a huge amount to it too.

People think it's all the presenters but look at people like Jonathan Ross who moved channel and his numbers dropped hugely.

Thats a case of the producers propping him up. I'm not convinced that is the case with Clarckson and co.

Good production staff would seem to me to be two a penny, given the vast volume of tv programming out there.

By everyones admission (for better or for worse) people like clarckson are rare, and not so easily replaceable.

CruelCoin · 26-03-2015 11:24AM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

This thread is insane.

Aye it is.

130 pages and god knows how many miles of newprint over a sore lip....

This could all have been put to better use elsewhere. If covering pain and suffering is newsworthy, then there are far greater examples out there. This case has received far more attention that it ever deserved.

Generic Dreadhead · 26-03-2015 11:26AM

It's a hilarious example of the user base here that this thread hasn't dropped below the top 5 or so entries since it was created. And yes I realise the irony of saying that when this post will bump it

AnonoBoy · 26-03-2015 11:31AM

CruelCoin wrote: »

Thats a case of the producers propping him up. I'm not convinced that is the case with Clarckson and co.

Propping him up or putting together a package that he excels in. We could see the same with Clarkson, not that he's not good at his job but just that he could go to another channel and find that the show doesn't suit him.

Good production staff would seem to me to be two a penny, given the vast volume of tv programming out there.

Good crew are out there. But good producers and showrunners are not ten a penny.

A producer is not merely 'staff'. Television is a producer's format. They shape shows and guide them. A good show will have a good pairing of producer/presenter that lifts it above the mediocre.

lee_baby_simms · 26-03-2015 11:49AM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

This thread is insane.

I've really enjoyed it. Good work by all involved.

jimgoose · 26-03-2015 11:51AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

...A producer is not merely 'staff'. Television is a producer's format. They shape shows and guide them. A good show will have a good pairing of producer/presenter that lifts it above the mediocre.

There's only one thing worse than an uppity tradesman, and that's an uppity tradesman in De Meeja. God be with the days when you could correct the ruffian with a swift hoof to the knick-knacks, and no more about it.

SeanW · 26-03-2015 12:00PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Clarkson is a boorish lout. He appeals to the moronic 'lad' culture. The type of nitwit who chuckles at the humour found in loaded magazine and has a poster of a "fit bird" hanging in their blue-collared workplace.

Glad to see he is being dropped by the BBC. Should have occurred long ago.

So "blue collar" is an insult?

I'm surprised you can see the "blue-collared workplaces" from your ivory tower ... actually no, you can't have a poster of a fit bird in a workplace because you'd get an equality/discrimination lawsuit in short order. Just goes to show how much you know.

lee_baby_simms · 26-03-2015 12:03PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

Nobody reads poor writing, or watchs poor content out of choice.

He has long been a columnist and author, and many, myself included, find his writing style frank and refreshing in this world of red tape, "think of the children" and clipboards.

May for instance is brilliant on his day-time shows, being the travel fan that i am, and Hammond is likewise good at his.

Thier political leanings have nothing to do with their qualities as presenters/writers.

I agree with you to a point. I find Bill O'Reilly hugely entertaining at times even though I despise his politics.

But the broader issue for me with the likes of Clarkson, Richard Littlejohn etc is that they're trying to normalise a type of attitude that I'm not comfortable with. A society with a pecking order based on where you come from and your income rather than anything else.

I admit it. I'm a limp wristed, guardian reading, eco-communist hippy.

jimgoose · 26-03-2015 12:05PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

...The show was about as fresh and edgy as an episode of Songs of Praise. TV made by morons to be watched by an audience comprised of a large percentage of morons.

My mother likes TG and Clarkson. She's 78 and drives a 1.25l Fiesta. Pow-AAAAAHH!!

Dravokivich · 26-03-2015 12:06PM

SeanW wrote: »

So "blue collar" is an insult?

I'm surprised you can see the "blue-collared workplaces" from your ivory tower ... actually no, you can't have a poster of a fit bird in a workplace because you'd get an equality/discrimination lawsuit in short order. Just goes to show how much you know.

Would you not even it up by also having a picture of a bloke modelling underwear?

jimgoose · 26-03-2015 12:08PM

SeanW wrote: »

So "blue collar" is an insult?...

I suppose it is when you're looking up from the deep-fat fryer imagining how the people in the shiny office-blocks live, with their hoors and cocaine and pet Komodo Dragons, and so forth. :pac:

El_Duderino 09 · 26-03-2015 12:09PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

He was described as a Senior Producer in the BBC press release statement yesterday.

If he wasn't a senior producer before this incident, he will be soon.

Reminds me of The Wire season 3, where Herk found the mayor in a compromising position. 'Careers were launched on less'.

bnt · 26-03-2015 12:11PM

I have a suspicion that this whole media frenzy was designed as a smokescreen, to cover up the news that Zayn is leaving One Dimension Direction! :eek:

Tombi! · 26-03-2015 12:12PM

folks, knock out the petty sniping at each other.

Renegade Mechanic · 26-03-2015 12:13PM

Kailani Moldy Beech wrote: »

He is so far up his hole he berates and assaults a lacky for not having his dinner ready for him, though. So much for this working class hero, he's played you lot like a violin.

Are you even capable of knowing what that term means? Defending someone doesn't automatically equate to offending someone else. And Anglo played us like Violins pal. Not some fat old man from a pokey motoring show".

Get a clue :rolleyes:

Renegade Mechanic · 26-03-2015 12:17PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

Except when he denied the n*gger rhyme before the video actually surfaced and he did a U-Turn.

I didn't think that was all that big of a deal but still, he didn't own it right away

One of three outtakes that were originally discarded. He specifically requested that it be left out on account of how much trouble it would probably raise.

He was ignored and the piece played. Very poor form.
Who knows, mabye Oisin ordered the piece be played?

valoren · 26-03-2015 12:23PM

Was he drunk/tired and emotional when the 'fraccas' happened?

CruelCoin · 26-03-2015 01:06PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

I admit it. I'm a limp wristed, guardian reading, eco-communist hippy.

Admitting it is the first step.

Now you just need to give control to his Noodley Goodness.

CruelCoin · 26-03-2015 01:08PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

But the broader issue for me with the likes of Clarkson, Richard Littlejohn etc is that they're trying to normalise a type of attitude that I'm not comfortable with.

They're not trying to normalise anything. The recent PC invasion is just that, recent.

If anything he's hanging on to how things used to be, as opposed to bringing it in.

I don't get how it's fine to post deeply offensive cartoons of another races religion, but it's not ok to make fun of the mexican transport minister.

Either you support free speech or you do not.

For the record, offensive or not, i support the cartoonists, as they have the right to their opinion, regardless of what i think of it. Likewise, Clarckson should have the right to his.

SeanW · 26-03-2015 01:18PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

But the broader issue for me with the likes of Clarkson, Richard Littlejohn etc is that they're trying to normalise a type of attitude that I'm not comfortable with. A society with a pecking order based on where you come from and your income rather than anything else.

But isn't that exactly what the Top Gear bashers are doing? One of them said it before, he/she despises working class men, looks down on them from his/her ivory tower and is over-the-moon delighted when anything for them (like Top Gear) is consigned to history.

This, I believe, explains most of the hate for Jezza and Top Gear.

Exactly what you accuse JC and Richard Littlejohn of doing.

LorMal · 26-03-2015 01:47PM

SeanW wrote: »

But isn't that exactly what the Top Gear bashers are doing? One of them said it before, he/she despises working class men, looks down on them from his/her ivory tower and is over-the-moon delighted when anything for them (like Top Gear) is consigned to history.

This, I believe, explains most of the hate for Jezza and Top Gear.

Exactly what you accuse JC and Richard Littlejohn of doing.

Think you just lost all credibility with 'Jezza'

Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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