Jeremy Clarkson suspended

Wompa1 wrote: »

Yeah......something tells me if the Producer punched Clarkson, he'd be gone. In fact, a family in the hotel said they heard Clarkson claiming he was going to get the guy fired.

Didn't sound like there was a boss, employee relationship going on.

Well no, it's a different circumstance but technically the producer would be above the tallent.

Enzokk wrote: »

And this is the problem I see with this situation and the comparison with Jimmy Saville. The personality has become so big his indiscretions are asked to be overlooked by his fans and by those in power.

Nobodies really asking for his indiscretions to be overlooked. Discipline him internally, come to a financial agreement, just don't kill the show.

Companies have problems with staff everyday but they don't let them destroy the companies top product.

ScumLord wrote: »

Nobodies really asking for his indiscretions to be overlooked. Discipline him internally, come to a financial agreement, just don't kill the show.

Companies have problems with staff everyday but they don't let them destroy the companies top product.

He has been taken to task internally three times.

What is the law of the land?

You can't hit someone and expect to get away with it.

Unless there is one law for him Nd another for the rest of us?

You are surely not suggesting that, are you ?

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

He has been taken to task internally three times.

On what exactly?

You are surely not suggesting that, are you ?

No, if the guy that got hit wants to open a criminal complaint he can, it probably would have been the easiest solution rather than make the BBC decide.

Enzokk wrote: »

You might not have, but a lot people did. I also do not want the show to end, however a refresh would be good in my opinion. This is now a good time to do one, with or withou the other 2.

Top gear is the most successful car show in the world, there are plenty of other car shows that can barely keep enough viewers to keep the show going. That's the kind of market Top gear will be going into without it's stars, it will become just another car show and I'd fully expect it to fail.

ScumLord wrote: »

Well no, it's a different circumstance but technically the producer would be above the tallent.

the guy was A producer not THE producer. Top Gear would have several. Basically a glorified production assistant. Andy Wilman is the executive producer and the guy on the same level as the talent. The producer being the big banana applies more to movies than TV.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

So it's ok to clock an assistant producer, is it?

where did i say that? you did read what i replied to didnt you?

ScumLord wrote: »

Top gear is the most successful car show in the world, there are plenty of other car shows that can barely keep enough viewers to keep the show going. That's the kind of market Top gear will be going into without it's stars, it will become just another car show and I'd fully expect it to fail.

Well in my opinion it hasn't been as good as the past, the characters seemed to have moved to an extreme parody of themselves to keep up the humour. It will not be easy to still be successful, but this is a chance to change. Do you think that the show could have continued for too long before another incident came up with Jeremy at the BBC? He needs a new show to start with a clean slate. He can then go through another 5 warnings before he moves on again. That is the character he has chosen, need to keep it up now.

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

I really hope May and Hammond get behind Clarkson for support because if BBC was to replace him it wouldn't be the same, it'd be less authentic than what the current three have. The replacement would be out to prove themselves and May and Hammond would have to accommodate them by also trying hard to seem like they like the guy even if they didn't. It'd just be bad for all involved so they should go all out in support of Clarkson since the three of them would allow a lot of negotiation power.

Even if BBC said fuk it and replaced them all they could all start a new show with Sky or ITV any way, these guys are too big to not come back.

Everybody is replaceable & shows move on.

When Jonathan Ross left the BBC, people said what ever they replaced his Friday night chat show with would not be the same but Graham Norton's show is far superior.

When Eoin McDevitt, Ken Early & co left Off The Ball a lot of people said the show wouldn't last but it did & some would argue is better now.

PWEI wrote: »

Everybody is replaceable & shows move on.

When Jonathan Ross left the BBC, people said what ever they replaced his Friday night chat show with would not be the same but Graham Norton's show is far superior.

When Eoin McDevitt, Ken Early & co left Off The Ball a lot of people said the show wouldn't last but it did & some would argue is better now.

Good post and I agree to an extent, although I do think with Top Gear the chemistry between the three presenters is a very important part of the show, although a show that is slowly getting stale anyhow.

Here is a thought:
Of all the guests you have seen on Top Gear, are there any who would be a good replacement for Mr Clarkson?
The only one I can think of is Jay Leno. A really nice guy and a genuine petrolhead.
However I fear he's a bit too busy to take on the role!

The Th!ng wrote: »

Ray Winstone - He starred in the remake of The Sweeney and he doesn't come across as someone who'd give a fcuk about the "eco-feminist" bull****ters at the Guardian.

He appears in advertising. Not so sure he'd want to risk that by spouting off too much

PWEI wrote: »

Everybody is replaceable & shows move on.

When Jonathan Ross left the BBC, people said what ever they replaced his Friday night chat show with would not be the same but Graham Norton's show is far superior.

When Eoin McDevitt, Ken Early & co left Off The Ball a lot of people said the show wouldn't last but it did & some would argue is better now.

It's nowhere near as good as it used to be unfortunately.

P. Breathnach wrote: »

So even if he does something that would merit dismissal in any other employment situation, he should be immune?

NOt immune no, but the show depends on him, he is a major draw. That has to be considered as well. The BBC can fire Jeremy on principle but they could end up firing the rest of the staff a year later if the show tanks without Clarkson. The BBC are more than likely considering ramifications like that when they consider firing Clarkson.

Enzokk wrote: »

Well in my opinion it hasn't been as good as the past, the characters seemed to have moved to an extreme parody of themselves to keep up the humour. It will not be easy to still be successful, but this is a chance to change. Do you think that the show could have continued for too long before another incident came up with Jeremy at the BBC?

These incidents are as much the BBCs doing as they are Clarkson, fair enough anything that happens outside of the show like Clarkson allegedly hitting one of the producers is Clarksons own doing but things like possible racism on the show are there because the producers decided to put it in. Releasing old blooper reels with almost racism in it is also the fault of the BBC.

deandean wrote: »

The only one I can think of is Jay Leno. A really nice guy and a genuine petrolhead.
However I fear he's a bit too busy to take on the role!

Jay Leno is to busy with all his cars to make a car show. He has one of the best car channels on youtube, there's an endless list of videos on his channel on every car from steam engines to US military vehicles, I think he must have a live in film crew.

If you want to nerd out on car shows youtube is the place, the likes of Jay leno goes into obscene detail on his videos. But these are videos for car nerds, they wouldn't make good TV.