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Boko Haram pledge allegiance to ISIS

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  • #52
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Nodin wrote: »
    You aren't too aware how oil prices work, I see.

    When supply outstrips demand, price goes up. When supply is larger than demand, price goes down. When supply and demand are in equilibrium, price remains unchanged.
    Nodin wrote: »
    The Saudi state does not finance IS.

    No, but people with ties to the Saud-family does.
    Nodin wrote: »
    Well, reading my post in the context of the post it was replying too would help you greatly. Less coffee and dollops of rage would not go astray either.

    "u mad?" Please stop. You argue against Western intervention and think Israel should butt out of Arab affairs, you argue for Western intervention in Arab affairs now. Pick an opinion and stick with it, populist.


  • #53
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    When supply outstrips demand, price goes up. When supply is larger than demand, price goes down. When supply and demand are in equilibrium, price remains unchanged. ..


    *sigh

    http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2014/wp14218.pdf
    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    No, but people with ties to the Saud-family does..

    Given the size of the royal Saudi family, that's hardly a suprising, nor does it mean the Saudi state is involved.

    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    "u mad?" Please stop. You argue against Western intervention and think Israel should butt out of Arab affairs, you argue for Western intervention in Arab affairs now. Pick an opinion and stick with it, populist.

    A false dichotomy. You seem to think opposition to colonialism conflicts with opposition to an extremist groups multi-nation rampage.


  • #54
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Nodin wrote: »
    *sigh

    http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2014/wp14218.pdf

    And the reason it is volatile, is because a handful of places produce the most oil, so when supply looks likely to drop below demand, price goes up.

    If "expected" supply of oil drops, but supply still outstrips demand, price will fall. This is what happened when the Saudis reduced their oil production, but price remained low and they lost market share (which is why they oppose OPEC reducing production).
    Nodin wrote: »
    Given the size of the royal Saudi family, that's hardly a suprising, nor does it mean the Saudi state is involved.

    The fact Saudi Arabia is wahhabi, doesn't factor into your equation? Saudi Arabia, much like Turkey under Erdogan, supports ISIS.
    Nodin wrote: »
    A false dichotomy. You seem to think opposition to colonialism conflicts with opposition to an extremist groups multi-nation rampage.

    So, when the West does it, it's colonialism. When fifty thousand Muslims do it, armed and aided by Muslim Governments (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, notably, Iran if you include the Shia militias) it's multi-national rampage? When the West does it, it's out of greed and we shouldn't get involved. When the Muslims do it, it's extremism and we should get involved?


  • #55
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    And the reason it is volatile, is because a handful of places produce the most oil, so when supply looks likely to drop below demand, price goes up..


    Yep, otherwise known as S P E C U L A T I O N.




    IrishTrajan wrote:
    The fact Saudi Arabia is wahhabi, doesn't factor into your equation? Saudi Arabia, much like Turkey under Erdogan, supports ISIS.

    IS follow a far harsher ideology than wahabism.

    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    So, when the West does it, it's colonialism. When fifty thousand Muslims do it, armed and aided by Muslim Governments (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, notably, Iran if you include the Shia militias) it's multi-national rampage? When the West does it, it's out of greed and we shouldn't get involved. When the Muslims do it, it's extremism and we should get involved?

    No idea what you're on about there.


  • #56
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yep, otherwise known as S P E C U L A T I O N.

    The link you posted stated that speculative demand only has a minor effect on volatility, one which we should ignore in the short term.

    Nodin wrote: »
    IS follow a far harsher ideology than wahabism.

    Yea, beheading people for being apart of the wrong religion is much harsher than beheading someone for cheating in a relationship.

    The Saudis have beheadings, you know that, right?
    Nodin wrote: »
    No idea what you're on about there.

    Of course not.


  • #57
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishTrajan wrote: »

    Yea, beheading people for being apart of the wrong religion is much harsher than beheading someone for cheating in a relationship.

    The Saudis have beheadings, you know that, right?.



    The French used have beheading. They must have been Wahabis of the same stripe too.


  • #58
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Nodin wrote: »
    The French used have beheading. They must have been Wahabis of the same stripe too.

    Yea, as their method of the death penalty. Using the guillotine on someone for murdering another person, isn't in the same league as murdering someone for infidelity, or murdering someone for being born into the wrong religion.

    Talk about a false equivalency.


  • #59
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    Yea, as their method of the death penalty. Using the guillotine on someone for murdering another person, isn't in the same league as murdering someone for infidelity, or murdering someone for being born into the wrong religion.

    Talk about a false equivalency.


    Not great at detecting nuance, humour or the like, are we?


  • #60
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Nodin wrote: »
    Not great at detecting nuance, humour or the like, are we?

    No, your joke just sucked, and sounded exactly like an answer you would usually give. Unless you're saying your entire opinion is a joke, which I'd agree with.

    So, now that we've gotten past the semantics, can you give me an honest answer as to what your actual stance is? You're both against and in favour of Western intervention?

    It seems like you're using a double standard and set on holding the West accountable for everything.


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  • #61
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishTrajan wrote: »
    No, your joke just sucked, and sounded exactly like an answer you would usually give. Unless you're saying your entire opinion is a joke, which I'd agree with.

    So, now that we've gotten past the semantics, can you give me an honest answer as to what your actual stance is? You're both against and in favour of Western intervention?

    It seems like you're using a double standard and set on holding the West accountable for everything.


    It's hard to know whether to laugh or cry at this........

    Bottom of post 53 explains it. If theres anything there you don't understand, ask.


  • #62
    IrishTrajan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭IrishTrajan


    Nodin wrote: »
    It's hard to know whether to laugh or cry at this........

    Bottom of post 53 explains it. If theres anything there you don't understand, ask.

    It doesn't explain it, it's you trying to twist words to excuse Muslim States for their actions, while blaming Western states for theirs. Exactly what I expected.


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