Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all, we have some important news to share. Please follow the link here to find out more!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058419143/important-news/p1?new=1

People who hire hookers?

1…910121415…30

Comments

  • #332
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,595 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    yea but im not sure what makes someone 'professional' at having sex.

    Prostitutes are not robots or super human, they are also women and probably have families and children and lives outside of their job.

    They don't take a course in sex. They may have more experience but whose to say the average woman hasn't got experience? Prostitutes may however be more willing to take part in certain things at a cost that other women are not but there will be some 'average' women who are also willing to do those things too.

    What is there to stop any woman or 'average' woman going out and deciding they want to become an escort? does a magic fairy come along and make you 'professional' at having sex?
    For a start, by the very fact that they're being paid for the act, they're going to get more honest feedback as to what they're doing right/wrong as their punters aren't incentivised to lie to them to protect their feelings or to ensure that such acts continue.

    In a relatively transparent market, where websites such as escort ireland allow punters to rate service-providers, supply and demand should kick in to identify the star performers fairly quickly.

    Finally, anyone choosing to sell a service is financially motivated to become as good at it as they can. As for the willingness to take part in certain things that other women are not, I'd agree you have a point, a prudish escort is unlikely to last long in the industry but let's be honest, the extremities of human sexuality tend to live in the extremities for both sexes and from what I've read, most of the more unusual stuff that escorts are asked for, while not necessarily pleasurable to perform, wouldn't be any more onerous a task to provide than those we'd routinely expect nurses or care workers to carry out e.g. the adult diaper thing mentioned above.

    Honestly speaking, there was one such peccadillo of a client mentioned on boards by a former sex-worker which I've actually tried and enjoyed immensely: strip chess.


  • #333
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    .


    I would be interested in knowing if it happens to you very often, that you are somewhere you frequent regularly, cross paths with some guy who you've seen around before, say "hello" and he looks at you, turns his nose up and walks past you. If this happens, I apologize on their behalf - they're clearly jerks and it's no way to treat anybody.

    of course I have come across men and women who have been rude. Its just a part of life and you cant let it effect you that much. The fact is what one person sees as rude might just be someone being indifferent or any other possibility so you just cant take it personal, if someone doesn't respond to you. It would be nice if we all walked around smiling and waving at each other but life is just not like that.


  • #334
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,595 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    of course I have come across men and women who have been rude. Its just a part of life and you cant let it effect you that much. The fact is what one person sees as rude might just be someone being indifferent or any other possibility so you just cant take it personal, if someone doesn't respond to you. It would be nice if we all walked around smiling and waving at each other but life is just not like that.
    It's entirely understandable for a woman to be afraid of a random man in her gym when the feminist media propagates the notions that all men are potential rapists and abusers. Being understandable and being excusable are entirely different things however.


  • #335
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    nokia69 wrote: »
    like many things in life, practice makes you better

    there is nothing stopping any woman becoming an escort, but after six months working as an escort, I bet she would be far better at the job than she was on day number one

    And what makes you think the average woman is out of practice? That is just mental. do you think women don't have sex?

    The only thing that I can possibly see that would make a hooker better in bed is :

    1) Either the fact that the man hasn't got another woman to do what he wants because she is not willing She may be able to perform fetishes that the man is not experienced in

    2) the man may not be able to get an attractive woman so decides to pay for it

    3) It is a psychological thing for the man and he enjoys the fact that the woman is purely there for his pleasure and he feels a sense of power or feels more comfortable knowing that he doesn't have any need to pleasure her and that she is not in it for any pleasure of her own. Also he doesn't have to consider the woman as a person just a sex object and can walk away without any emotional connection.

    The things that would make an 'average' woman better could be:

    1) She genuinely wants to be there

    2) you can experiment together and teach her new things and she can teach you new things

    3) there is trust and understanding for one another along with intimacy

    It just depends what you are after but the argument that prostitutes are better in bed technically I don't believe is true. There is no reason why a prostitute is fundamentally better in bed than any other women.


  • #336
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sleepy wrote: »
    It's entirely understandable for a woman to be afraid of a random man in her gym when the feminist media propagates the notions that all men are potential rapists and abusers. Being understandable and being excusable are entirely different things however.

    Did the man who shoulder slammed me out of the way in a doorway recently do so because of the MRA/Masculinist propaganda that all women are potential gold diggers out to bankrupt unsuspecting men and make false rape claims, and he needed to get away quickly before I stole his wallet and accused him of rape?

    Or is he likely to be a person in a hurry who had other things on his mind and didn't realise how rude and rough he was being?

    I'd hate to make silly assumptions.


  • Advertisement
  • #337
    Fubrege
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭Fubrege


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    And what makes you think the average woman is out of practice? That is just mental. do you think women don't have sex?

    The only thing that I can possibly see that would make a hooker better in bed is :

    1) Either the fact that the man hasn't got another woman to do what he wants because she is not willing She may be able to perform fetishes that the man is not experienced in

    2) the man may not be able to get an attractive woman so decides to pay for it

    3) It is a psychological thing for the man and he enjoys the fact that the woman is purely there for his pleasure and he feels a sense of power or feels more comfortable knowing that he doesn't have any need to pleasure her and that she is not in it for any pleasure of her own. Also he doesn't have to consider the woman as a person just a sex object and can walk away without any emotional connection.

    The things that would make an 'average' woman better could be:

    1) She genuinely wants to be there

    2) you can experiment together and teach her new things and she can teach you new things

    3) there is trust and understanding for one another along with intimacy

    It just depends what you are after but the argument that prostitutes are better in bed technically I don't believe is true. There is no reason why a prostitute is fundamentally better in bed than any other women.

    Having been with my fare share of women, both hooker and non hooker I can indeed tell you that on average hookers are better in bed. The best experience of course is a hot non hooker who is great in bed, but I'd prefer a hot hooker who is great in bed to most non hookers I have sex with.


  • #338
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    Fubrege wrote: »
    Having been with my fare share of women, both hooker and non hooker I can indeed tell you that on average hookers are better in bed. The best experience of course is a hot non hooker who is great in bed, but I'd prefer a hot hooker who is great in bed to most non hookers I have sex with.

    so what you are saying is that regardless of hooker or non hooker, sex with different women is sometimes good and sometimes not as good which makes a lot of sense!


  • #339
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,712 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Sleepy wrote: »
    It's entirely understandable for a woman to be afraid of a random man in her gym when the feminist media propagates the notions that all men are potential rapists and abusers. Being understandable and being excusable are entirely different things however.


    If that posters previous comments about his attitude towards women are anything to go by, I highly doubt he comes across as simply a friendly guy opening the door for them.


  • #340
    Fubrege
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭Fubrege


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    so what you are saying is that regardless of hooker or non hooker, sex with different women is sometimes good and sometimes not as good which makes would make a lot of sense!

    Yes but also that hookers usually have better skills.


  • #341
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    Fubrege wrote: »
    Yes but also that hookers usually have better skills.

    unless of course you find, that "hot non hooker who is great in bed" which is the 'best experience' right! :)


  • Advertisement
  • #342
    H3llR4iser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    unless of course you find, that "hot non hooker who is great in bed" which is the 'best experience' right! :)

    Well, can't argue with that! Finding the Higgs boson was probably a simpler task than that, but yes, it's definitely a possibility.


  • #343
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    yea but im not sure what makes someone 'professional' at having sex.
    Don't know about 'professional' but it's not terribly difficult to figure out what makes someone competent or even good at having sex.

    Many people (I can only speak of women, but have no doubts that men are equally culpable) are selfish. They do what will get themselves off, they'll concentrate on their own needs, they'll refuse what is of no interest to them (I'm not saying things they are repulsed by, just are indifferent to), though it may be of interest to their partner and demand the reverse.

    Added to this is many will not learn from experience. They'll carry out a sexual act badly, but the other party won't correct them. Or they'll reject the advice because they don't want to do it that way or, most bizarrely, because they feel they know better than their partner who's at the receiving end of the practice.

    In this regard, prostitutes are more likely to be 'good', if only because it's their bread and butter. A happy customer is a repeat customer. They probably are also in an environment (knowing other prostitutes) where exchange of frank views and advice is much easier to come by too. And of course, I'd imagine the ability to give someone a happy finish quicker has practical advantages too.

    So in this respect, given prostitutes have an incentive to be better at sex than non-prostitutes, who may only have an interest in their own sexual gratification, I'd imagine that prostitutes would on average be much better in the sack.


  • #344
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    And what makes you think the average woman is out of practice? That is just mental. do you think women don't have sex?

    thats not what I said

    and I really can't see how you came to the conclusion that thats what I said or thats what I think


  • #345
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    The Corinthian wrote: »
    Don't know about 'professional' but it's not terribly difficult to figure out what makes someone competent or even good at having sex.

    Many people (I can only speak of women, but have no doubts that men are equally culpable) are selfish. They do what will get themselves off, they'll concentrate on their own needs, they'll refuse what is of no interest to them (I'm not saying things they are repulsed by, just are indifferent to), though it may be of interest to their partner and demand the reverse.

    Added to this is many will not learn from experience. They'll carry out a sexual act badly, but the other party won't correct them. Or they'll reject the advice because they don't want to do it that way or, most bizarrely, because they feel they know better than their partner who's at the receiving end of the practice.

    In this regard, prostitutes are more likely to be 'good', if only because it's their bread and butter. A happy customer is a repeat customer. They probably are also in an environment (knowing other prostitutes) where exchange of frank views and advice is much easier to come by too. And of course, I'd imagine the ability to give someone a happy finish quicker has practical advantages too.

    So in this respect, given prostitutes have an incentive to be better at sex than non-prostitutes, who may only have an interest in their own sexual gratification, I'd imagine that prostitutes would on average be much better in the sack.

    No it's not terribly difficult to figure out what makes someone good at sex and there is no reason why a hooker can figure that out and a non hookers can't.

    Your saying that women are selfish and only interested in their own needs to get themselves off yet we are having a discussion about men going to see prostitutes for their own needs? To me it sounds like going to a prostitute is a sole event for the man's own pleasure (even though the woman is present)

    Both parties in a relationship are responsible and need to have open communication towards sex and getting their needs met.

    An incentive? What about caring for the other person? Attraction? Genuinely wanting to please the other person.


  • #346
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    nokia69 wrote: »
    thats not what I said

    and I really can't see how you came to the conclusion that thats what I said or thats what I think

    You implied that hookers were better because "practice makes you better"


  • #347
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    Your saying that women are selfish and only interested in their own needs to get themselves off yet we are having a discussion about men going to see prostitutes for their own needs?
    Err... no, I'm not saying that. I even said:
    Many people (I can only speak of women, but have no doubts that men are equally culpable) are selfish.
    I presume I don't have to explain to you why I can only speak of women.
    An incentive? What about caring for the other person? Attraction? Genuinely wanting to please the other person.
    You're not married long, are you?


  • #348
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    You implied that hookers were better because "practice makes you better"

    I did

    but I never said that woman don't have sex

    and yes I believe that more practice with different people would lead to an improvement in skills, this applies to men and women, paid or unpaid


  • #349
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    Like we have said many times, life is not black and white and when emotions are involved sometimes people make mistakes.

    I don't see how you can "accidentally" cheat on someone? :rolleyes:
    You don't believe that it should be a standard that the less dependent spouse automatically recieves spousel support (neither do I automatically) yet you believe that if someone is unfaithful they should automatically not receive spousel support?

    That's backwards thinking and very simplistic for a situation that is complex and not as straight forward as it may appear to some people.

    I don't believe in a system which makes it easy for people to be taken advantage of. Right now you can marry, knowing that if one day you get bored of your partner you can cheat on them or dump them, while still enjoying the material benefits of having dated them.

    That is fundamentally wrong.


  • #350
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,541 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Candie wrote: »
    Did the man who shoulder slammed me out of the way in a doorway recently do so because of the MRA/Masculinist propaganda that all women are potential gold diggers out to bankrupt unsuspecting men and make false rape claims, and he needed to get away quickly before I stole his wallet and accused him of rape?
    MRAs are effectively a non-entity in society. They control no legislatures, have had no legislative success and have no sympathy in the media or popular culture.

    https://u24.gov.ua/
    Join NAFO today:

    Help us in helping Ukraine.



  • #351
    ViveLaVie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ViveLaVie


    The level of misogyny on here is ridiculous.


  • Advertisement
  • #352
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    The Corinthian wrote: »
    Err... no, I'm not saying that. I even said:

    I presume I don't have to explain to you why I can only speak of women.

    You're not married long, are you?

    If you have the belief that people are selfish when it comes to sex or in general(and you can't speak for men) then you will look for ways to proove that to yourself. Saying that all people are selfish sounds like a very negative view especially to have towards sex. And when you go into something negatively then that's what your going to get.

    Not sure what it has to do with it but we are married couple of years, together 10 years. At what year would you say that we get all bitter and selfish? Have we still got time? (I'm joking)!


  • #353
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    nokia69 wrote: »
    I did

    but I never said that woman don't have sex

    and yes I believe that more practice with different people would lead to an improvement in skills, this applies to men and women, paid or unpaid

    So you take back your previous point that hookers are better because of more practice and now you say that people are better with more practice?


  • #354
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I don't see how you can "accidentally" cheat on someone? :rolleyes:
    g.

    You just took a one line quote of a post that I did 2 days ago without adding the rest and the examples of reasons why people may have for committing adultery and making a mistake. Go back and read the rest of the post.


  • #355
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Saralee4 wrote: »
    So you take back your previous point that hookers are better because of more practice and now you say that people are better with more practice?

    WOW

    are hookers not people

    everyone gets better with practice

    if I say that hookers are better because they have more experience/practice, is it not obvious that anyone else with the same level of experience/practice would also tend to be better


  • #356
    Fubrege
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭Fubrege


    I don't see how it's so difficult to understand that hookers would tend to be better in bed, their very livelihood depends on being good, they have more incentive. Most women just aren'the very good in bed, I'd hazard a guess the majority of men would share that opinion.


  • #357
    Saralee4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Saralee4


    nokia69 wrote: »
    WOW

    are hookers not people

    Yes they are, are you just realising that?


  • #358
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,874 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    nokia69 wrote: »
    WOW

    are hookers not people


    Strange how you're only acknowledging that now.

    Fwiw btw, more sexually experienced is no guarantee that you're going to please every different individual all the time, but it does mean you get better at giving people who are easily pleased, exactly what they're paying for.


  • #359
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,874 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Strange how you're only acknowledging that now.

    Saralee4 wrote: »
    Yes they are, are you just realising that?


    Jinx! :pac:


  • #360
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,541 ✭✭✭SeanW


    ViveLaVie wrote: »
    The level of misogyny on here is ridiculous.
    Explain?

    So far as I am aware, only one poster (Lufties) was found to be a misogynist and was banned. Where is the rest of it?

    https://u24.gov.ua/
    Join NAFO today:

    Help us in helping Ukraine.



  • Advertisement
  • #361
    Carlos Orange
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    Roquentin wrote: »
    scary alright.

    Scary is when you have guys in Italy paying child support for kids that are 30+.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/06/philipwillan


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement