Friendly Aliens.

kneemos · 06-03-2015 10:39pm #1

How come it's always death a destruction with these guys and never sunshine and lollipops and skipping hand in hand into the sunset.
Do we have any examples of friendly aliens,surely there must be a few decent sorts among them?

Dtp1979 · 06-03-2015 10:40pm

kneemos wrote: »

How come it's always death a destruction with these guys and never sunshine and lollipops and skipping hand in hand into the sunset.
Do we have any examples of friendly aliens,surely there must be a few decent sorts among them?

ET

AnonoBoy · 06-03-2015 10:41pm

ALF
Mork
That guy from that ad about the Harp (or was he a time traveller?)

Señor Fancy Pants · 06-03-2015 10:42pm

Mac from Mac and Me
Mork from Mork and Mindy
Linda Martin the Martian

Filmer Paradise · 06-03-2015 10:42pm

That E.T. fellah seemed like a decent sort.

Phone Home & all that.....

Youngblood.III · 06-03-2015 10:42pm

A mans G-spot is up his arse..... supposedly, them Aliens are always arse probing, looks like their trying to please us.

Golaco · 06-03-2015 10:44pm

Youngblood.III wrote: »

A mans G-spot is up his arse..... supposedly, them Aliens are always arse probing, looks like their trying to please us.

An interesting theory. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter

FunLover18 · 06-03-2015 10:44pm

Pat Mustard · 06-03-2015 10:46pm

kneemos wrote: »

How come it's always death a destruction with these guys and never sunshine and lollipops and skipping hand in hand into the sunset.
Do we have any examples of friendly aliens,surely there must be a few decent sorts among them?

This country has centuries of bad luck with people who show up on our shores. It might be wishful thinking to suppose that things would be better just because they rock up in a flying saucer. :pac:

AnonoBoy · 06-03-2015 10:46pm

Truffle Pig wrote: »

Mac from Mac and Me

Paul Rudd loves that movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bNzAgJMYVE

Youngblood.III · 06-03-2015 10:47pm

'merica.......phew...phew..plew

delw · 06-03-2015 10:51pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOAj-DfJpRg

Karl Stein · 06-03-2015 10:58pm

Consider, if you will, the conquistadors. In our own history it rarely worked out well for people when they were visited by more technologically advanced others.

lazybones32 · 06-03-2015 11:01pm

"monsters" is a pretty decent alien film: to write anymore would spoil it for those who haven't seen it. Love the theme tune...was used in the ROG documentary by RTE.

Ruu · 06-03-2015 11:04pm

This guy was friendly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa6-nYI0OhQ

Drexel · 06-03-2015 11:05pm

Mr. Spock

Youngblood.III · 06-03-2015 11:08pm

jonny666 wrote: »

Mr. Spock

Logical choice

meep · 06-03-2015 11:14pm

Aliens in 'Contact' were a helpful / friendly sort. As were those in 'Interstellar' but I'm not sure that counts.

fryup · 06-03-2015 11:18pm

friendly alien 4.00 in....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXTvSQrBMPI

5uspect · 06-03-2015 11:18pm

Arthur C Clarke's Childhood's End dies a decent job with the whole alien contact thing.

Super-Rush · 06-03-2015 11:20pm

I bring you love.

delw · 06-03-2015 11:27pm

Paul

the evasion_kid · 06-03-2015 11:33pm

This is their theme tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnYCboElgHs

meep · 06-03-2015 11:50pm

The Doctor

Depraved · 07-03-2015 12:34am

One would hope that a species technologically advanced enough to reach us would also be socially advanced enough to see the benefits of being friendly. Also, it's unlikely that we would have anything that they need.

Of course, they could be so fundamentally different from us that they don't even recognise us as intelligent life. They could view us the way we view a virus, bacteria, snail etc.

Tin Foil Hat · 07-03-2015 1:14am

Even if aliens tried to be nice they'd kill us all with their alien germs. ET should have been torched for the safety of humanity.

DVDM93 · 07-03-2015 2:21am

District 9 was on tonight. To me the aliens were the nice ones, some of them cute even. The humans were just cnuts.

It's the human race I worry about, not aliens.

Tin Foil Hat · 07-03-2015 2:23am

DVDM93 wrote: »

District 9 was on tonight. To me the aliens were the nice ones, some of them cute even. The humans were just cnuts.

Haven't seen it, but from what I hear that was the whole point. The movie was a metaphor for apartheid.

Bongalongherb · 07-03-2015 2:45am

kneemos wrote: »

How come it's always death a destruction with these guys and never sunshine and lollipops and skipping hand in hand into the sunset.
Do we have any examples of friendly aliens,surely there must be a few decent sorts among them?

The problem with this scenario of 'us' thinking of meeting benevolent aliens is that we are a paranoid civilisation. We just cannot accept and co-exist with our own world family of human beings without killing them for something or other.

Many human beings are happy in their box thinking they are safe and tranquil, and even cloud cover makes them warm and cosy within this cotton-wool encompassed enclosure disregarding the immense outer-ness of space while scurrying around nervous of something in-coming to our little box atmosphere.

Would a sane person really think a friendly alien would visit us physically for the human experience ? not a fcuking chance man. If they had the technology to warp space and time to visit this planet I'm sure they would remove the nuisance and make good use of the planet they now own.

Maximus Alexander · 07-03-2015 2:52am

If any alien species exists that is advanced enough to travel here, we would be so pathetically primitive by comparison that I don't see why they'd pay us any attention at all. Imagine walking past a pond full of tadpoles on your way to work.

DoYouEvenLift · 07-03-2015 3:31am

Close Encounters of the Third Kind, watched it for the first time recently actually

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Haven't seen it, but from what I hear that was the whole point. The movie was a metaphor for apartheid.

Yeah, the oppressor becoming the oppressed. To quote Blomkamp himself, "the Nazi becoming the holocaust victim"

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

If any alien species exists that is advanced enough to travel here, we would be so pathetically primitive by comparison that I don't see why they'd pay us any attention at all. Imagine walking past a pond full of tadpoles on your way to work.

I agree. They'd probably be so advanced that it'd be similar to us trying to teach a monkey what a plane or rocket is, and that'd be even worse if we were to try and teach monkeys how to build a plane or rocket. Their technology could possibly be beyond our comprehension. It's nice to think that they'd still appreciate another intelligent life form though, just like we would if we discovered one on another planet.

endacl · 07-03-2015 3:53am

Dtp1979 wrote: »

ET

What's E.T. Short for?

He's got little legs!

I'll get me coat....

Bongalongherb · 07-03-2015 4:19am

endacl wrote: »

What's E.T. Short for?

He's got little legs!

I'll get me coat....

Extra Dimensional Travel

Modern maths has a "Heath Robinson" type approach - at least philosophically - with its many sizes of infinity and logical paradoxes. Would this be the same for ETs? Also, what if they experience time and space differently from us? Perhaps they can only reason using flashes of insight?

Or, perhaps topology is easy, but counting, for them, is an advanced concept few understand? Or perhaps they use quantum logic or some other logic we haven't thought of yet? Or, might they see everything as fractals?

It's often said that if we do make contact, e.g. detect a radio transmission from a distant galaxy through SETI, that maths would be one of the few things we would have in common with them. But - how similar would their maths actually be to ours?

Depraved · 07-03-2015 4:22am

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Even if aliens tried to be nice they'd kill us all with their alien germs. ET should have been torched for the safety of humanity.

It's unlikely that we would be affected by their germs as their biology would likely be quite different to ours. However, if we were affected, the effect would likely be devastating as we'd have absolutely no resistance to this new alien germ.

c_man · 08-03-2015 12:05am

jonny666 wrote: »

Mr. Spock

Well first contact could have gone a whole lot differently...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXw6hC7hxBA

al22 · 08-03-2015 12:21am

Afraid any aliens. If they will come they will kill everybody, if they can.
If we will land any other planet, we will kill them, if we can. No oter options.

I believe myself, aliens already here. But they need a time to reproduce themselves into a huge numbers and only then to strike.

I believe that because the Universe is a similar structure everywhere, so works the same way. An example are the viruses. they enter bodies and can live inside peacefully for many years, slovly replicate themselves.

Then as number of vruses increased enough, they strike us and kill us.

Same is everywhere. Same principle. My opinion.

Lone Stone · 08-03-2015 12:23am

Predator he liked playing hide and seek Tehehe

The_Valeyard · 08-03-2015 12:27am

kneemos wrote: »

How come it's always death a destruction with these guys and never sunshine and lollipops and skipping hand in hand into the sunset.
Do we have any examples of friendly aliens,surely there must be a few decent sorts among them?

ET
Vulcans
The Doctor
Close Encounters
Coneheads
Alien Nation
Telerites
Andorians
Iconians
Riseans
Atlantian Ancients
The Nox
The Asguard
Mork

Emmm there's loads really....

Just the bad guys are a lot cooler with style, music, design and evilness

Sith imperial Army
The Daleks
The Borg
The Dominion
The Wraith
The Ori
Peacekeepers
Weeping Angels
Cybermen
Xenomorphs

BBDBB · 08-03-2015 12:29am

Ford Prefect, he really knew where his towel was

Smiles35 · 08-03-2015 1:10am

Even though it seems that a planet with just the right conditions for life and living is rare, and therefore valuable. A technology advanced bunch should be able to terraform.

Capt'n Midnight · 08-03-2015 6:44pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

If any alien species exists that is advanced enough to travel here, we would be so pathetically primitive by comparison that I don't see why they'd pay us any attention at all. Imagine walking past a pond full of tadpoles on your way to work.

Tadpoles with nukes and bio weapons.

The again there's no need for aliens to come down here and fight us, they could just divert an asteroid / comet into us. Then again if they are looking for minerals or water they'd just keep the asteroid / comet.

kneemos · 08-03-2015 6:54pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Tadpoles with nukes and bio weapons.

The again there's no need for aliens to come down here and fight us, they could just divert an asteroid / comet into us. Then again if they are looking for minerals or water they'd just keep the asteroid / comet.

If they need a pet I might be willing to wear a collar.

_Brian · 08-03-2015 9:29pm

kneemos wrote: »

How come it's always death a destruction with these guys and never sunshine and lollipops and skipping hand in hand into the sunset.
Do we have any examples of friendly aliens,surely there must be a few decent sorts among them?

We've seen over and over again here on earth that when more advanced civilizations meet much less advanced people - they usually take serious advantage of them and most often they destroy the fabric of the less advanced people's society, murder and pillage seems a very popular option in this instance..
SO..
We're not capable of going out there and finding less advanced civilisations to be mean to, meaning its most likely they are more advanced and will come here and find us. So our experience has shown us that if we meet aliens we're going to come off much the worse for the experience.. I fully expect that they're out there - and hopefully they don't find us.

Bongalongherb · 09-03-2015 12:24am

_Brian wrote: »

We've seen over and over again here on earth that when more advanced civilizations meet much less advanced people - they usually take serious advantage of them and most often they destroy the fabric of the less advanced people's society, murder and pillage seems a very popular option in this instance..
SO..
We're not capable of going out there and finding less advanced civilisations to be mean to, meaning its most likely they are more advanced and will come here and find us. So our experience has shown us that if we meet aliens we're going to come off much the worse for the experience.. I fully expect that they're out there - and hopefully they don't find us.

Saying that hopefully they don't find 'us' ? would be like a colony of worker ants scurrying around under a motorway building structure oblivious to 'us'. If their technology is millions of years more advanced compared to ours.

Who knows... Maybe they are already here and have been for thousands of years, but their technology is so advanced that they are cloaked/invisible to our primitive visual sight on the electromagnetic spectrum ?.

Mint Aero · 09-03-2015 1:06am

Repsac the friendly alien. The friendliest alien you'll know!

manonboard · 09-03-2015 4:17am

I think a very common misconception of aliens is thier advance cultural situation.

Comparing things like when white people met the native americans is crazy. They were more advance in a technical sense.. but aliens would be far more advance in all sense of things. With that type of age/advancement, its far more likely they are very very peaceful or uninterested.
What possible aspect of humanity could invoke even a moresel of fear in them to create anger?
N they would be so self sufficient that looking outside themselves emotionally for any needs is extremely unlikely..
And further advances like cybernetic implants and artificial intelligence would render the methods of need resolution so out of our comprehension that its laughable to think theyd need to arrive here for anything..

Do you go the rainforest to visit primitive tribes?
They offer nothing of value to you so you couldnt be bothered.

The only reason would be tourism but theyd likely have zoos of types beyond our imagination and they may aswell be fully virtual..

_Brian · 09-03-2015 9:54am

manonboard wrote: »

I think a very common misconception of aliens is thier advance cultural situation.

Comparing things like when white people met the native americans is crazy. They were more advance in a technical sense.. but aliens would be far more advance in all sense of things. With that type of age/advancement, its far more likely they are very very peaceful or uninterested.
What possible aspect of humanity could invoke even a moresel of fear in them to create anger?
N they would be so self sufficient that looking outside themselves emotionally for any needs is extremely unlikely..
And further advances like cybernetic implants and artificial intelligence would render the methods of need resolution so out of our comprehension that its laughable to think theyd need to arrive here for anything..

Do you go the rainforest to visit primitive tribes?
They offer nothing of value to you so you couldnt be bothered.

The only reason would be tourism but theyd likely have zoos of types beyond our imagination and they may aswell be fully virtual..

just in reply to your analogy of the tribes in the rain forest..

http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/rare-amazon-tribe-nearly-extinct-from-deforestation.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/22/brazil-rainforest-awa-endangered-tribe

http://www.ibtimes.com/last-remaining-amazon-tribes-nearing-extinction-brazilian-rainforest-photos-videos-551965

So while aliens actually mightn't be bothered with us, they may want our natural resources and incidentally leave our planet inhospitable as a result of extracting the resources..

Read the articles above, it's happening right now on this planet, humans are extracting wood and devastating the rainforests leaving these human tribes extinct. So why would we somehow think that aliens would treat us any better when we don't treat each other any better.. They may well have complete disregard for us as a species considering how poorly we treat each other..

We need to base our position on whatever scraps of similar evidence we can find, and what we have seen happen and is still ongoing shows we should worry about aliens arriving and presume it won't end well for us.

We can hope for a better outcome, but hope is all it would be !

EDIT:
forgot to add this link.. http://www.rain-tree.com/facts.htm#.VP1t7_msUc0

In Brazil alone, European colonists have destroyed more than 90 indigenous tribes since the 1900's. With them have gone centuries of accumulated knowledge of the medicinal value of rainforest species. As their homelands continue to be destroyed by deforestation, rainforest peoples are also disappearing.

Maximus Alexander · 09-03-2015 10:28am

_Brian wrote: »

just in reply to your analogy of the tribes in the rain forest..

http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/rare-amazon-tribe-nearly-extinct-from-deforestation.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/22/brazil-rainforest-awa-endangered-tribe

http://www.ibtimes.com/last-remaining-amazon-tribes-nearing-extinction-brazilian-rainforest-photos-videos-551965

So while aliens actually mightn't be bothered with us, they may want our natural resources and incidentally leave our planet inhospitable as a result of extracting the resources..

There's nothing on Earth apart from biology that you can't get elsewhere, more easily.

BeerWolf · 09-03-2015 11:32am

In either case OP, we should be safe in Ireland... Aliens seem to be attracted to mostly the USA come invasions, from what I've learnt from the Movies... :pac:

Depraved · 09-03-2015 1:27pm

BeerWolf wrote: »

In either case OP, we should be safe in Ireland... Aliens seem to be attracted to mostly the USA come invasions, from what I've learnt from the Movies... :pac:

Indeed. And we wouldn't be much a threat to them anyway. What are we going to do? Mobilise the FCA?

daheff · 09-03-2015 1:35pm

What about Cocoon....and to a lessor extent Cocoon II??

kneemos wrote: »

If they need a pet I might be willing to wear a collar.

Yeah but are you willing to be neutered coz they don't what you reproducing??? :eek:

Although if they go down the same route as we do with horses...I wanna be the one sent out to cover the females

Friendly Aliens.

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