How should 1916 be remembered

Nodin · 04-03-2015 10:31PM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Excessive street drinking and National embarrassment/shame in tomorrow's media.

Are ye goin out?

Karl Stein · 04-03-2015 10:31PM

There should be John Bruton and Connor Cruise O'Brien effigies stuffed with sweets for the children to hit with sticks.

Adamantium · 04-03-2015 10:37PM

General Postal strike. Or Postcode introduction finally. Something post related.

Alternatively we could go postal.

LordSutch · 04-03-2015 10:40PM

Uriel. wrote: »

'16 is more inclusive. To celebrate the "independence" of 1922 in such a way would to spit in the face of the brethren we left behind up the top

Ironically it was the rebels who were spat upon by the good people of Dublin, as they were led away . . . .

Remember that the 1916 rising was a very unpopular rising (at the time of its occurrence), hence the hostility by Dubliners towards the rebels.

Pumpkinseeds · 04-03-2015 10:41PM

Chucken wrote: »

Sinn Fein have been leaders of the past century?

That's news to me.

Nope, but they don't shut the fcuk up about 1916 and all the rest of that sh*te.

Hans Bricks · 04-03-2015 10:52PM

Nodin wrote: »

Are ye goin out?

Certainly am

Uriel. · 04-03-2015 10:57PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Ironically it was the rebels who were spat upon by the good people of Dublin, as they were led away . . . .

Remember that the 1916 rising was a very unpopular rising (at the time of its occurrence), hence the hostility by Dubliners towards the rebels.

In many ways it was the executions that turned public opinion.

SCOOP 64 · 04-03-2015 11:02PM

JaseBelleVie wrote: »

Invade England.

We done that already!

Nodin · 04-03-2015 11:03PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Ironically it was the rebels who were spat upon by the good people of Dublin, as they were led away . . . .

Remember that the 1916 rising was a very unpopular rising (at the time of its occurrence), hence the hostility by Dubliners towards the rebels.

Look, if theres a re-enactment you can play the part of somebody who runs to the Brits to tell them the news. Happy now?

Karl Stein · 04-03-2015 11:06PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Ironically it was the rebels who were spat upon by the good people of Dublin, as they were led away . . . .

Remember that the 1916 rising was a very unpopular rising (at the time of its occurrence), hence the hostility by Dubliners towards the rebels.

How simplistic.

It wasn't 'the good people of Dublin'. It was certain people in Dublin, many of whom would have had relatives fighting for the British Army in WWII and would have been hostile to the uprising.

Sheepy99 · 04-03-2015 11:19PM

What would we be celebrating? Certainly not freedom anyway

Chucken · 04-03-2015 11:31PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I think there should be a gag order put in place to shut Sinn Fein up. They will bore the arses off us all going on about it. 100 years later and Germany owns us, yey, job well done to our leaders of the past century.:rolleyes:

You're not making much sense tbh.

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Nope, but they don't shut the fcuk up about 1916 and all the rest of that sh*te.

Earthhorse · 04-03-2015 11:36PM

Uriel. wrote: »

'16 is more inclusive. To celebrate the "independence" of 1922 in such a way would to spit in the face of the brethren we left behind up the top

Well, I disagree.

Yamanoto · 04-03-2015 11:40PM

Dominic McGlinchey lookalike competitions & free rides for all on the world's largest rotating replica of Mitchell McLaughlin.

Kevin McCloud · 04-03-2015 11:43PM

Cake, everyone loves cake expect lactose intolerant people.

The Golden Miller · 04-03-2015 11:44PM

It really is depressing to see that the job for celebrating the centenary of 1916 has fallen to the party who are the antithesis to everything the men and women stood for. It really is a sad joke.

It should also be made very clear in a speech, that although we are here celebrating their sacrifice, we have not gone onto achieve the Irish Republic they gave their lives for, and that that very Irish Republic is still something which should always be promoted and something we should always strive towards. But I won't hold my breath, as Fine Gael already see the north as another country and think everything from 1916 has already been achieved

Sunnyisland · 04-03-2015 11:45PM

We should acknowledge the actual history of what happened to all those who fought – including the lesser known participants – it is important to capture the historical knowledge that exists in the family’s of relatives for future generations. As a nation we should reflect on how we have (or have not) lived up to the ideals of the Proclamation. 2016 is a great opportunity to think about where we have come from as a nation and where we want to go in the next 100 years.

dodderangler · 04-03-2015 11:45PM

Good ballad session and Cupla pints is my intentions and il make a day of it.

KingBrian2 · 04-03-2015 11:51PM

Sheepy99 wrote: »

What would we be celebrating? Certainly not freedom anyway

Oh! I don't know maybe the Independence of Ireland from the Kingdom of Britain which at the time was engaged in a World War in which millions of people were killed in. 1916 was the catalyst for the Irish campaign to free ourselves from despotism and colonial rule. They were by no means the only leaders of Ireland's movement for legislative freedom from Britain. Many were former Parnellites and indeed Redmond himself represented Fenians of the previous century.

Revisionist history suggests the 1916 people were some how unique. Far from it they followed in the footsteps of many previous Rebels. What made them different was their Revolutionary talk resonated with the People at the time. A genuine sense of self rule from the military which was effectively running the country. We tend to forget nowadays that the country back then was governed like a Military regiment. Were so used to civilian rule we forget what occupation really was like.

What seems to be odd when recalling the history of the period is that essentially the Country hit the rocks the moment Jim Larkin slipped into Cleary's Department Store wearing a dress. Riots, lockouts and police brutality followed a completely different path taken to Continent or even England. An extremely divided city absent of any governing authority. The Rising destroyed that city and reshaped the political landscape.

The Golden Miller · 04-03-2015 11:51PM

realies wrote: »

We should acknowledge the actual history of what happened to all those who fought – including the lesser known participants – it is important to capture the historical knowledge that exists in the family’s of relatives for future generations. As a nation we should reflect on how we have (or have not) lived up to the ideals of the Proclamation. 2016 is a great opportunity to think about where we have come from as a nation and where we want to go in the next 100 years.

Exactly. Thinking about that, I read recently that about 100 lads or so from Liverpool, born and bred and with little to no Irish connection, who came over to fight in 1916 on the side of the rebels, and that very little is otherwise known of them

Karl Stein · 05-03-2015 12:13AM

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Fine Gael have some audacity to think they are the inheritors of what the men of 1916 stood for.

Many of them want the public to be ashamed of the 1916 rebels. It's those mealy-mouthed clowns we should be ashamed of.

The Golden Miller · 05-03-2015 12:16AM

Karl Stein wrote: »

Many of them want the public to be ashamed of the 1916 rebels. It's those mealy-mouthed clowns we should be ashamed of.

John Bruton in particular is a national embarrassment

JacquesDeLad · 05-03-2015 12:18AM

1916 - Irish men died.

shamrock55 · 05-03-2015 12:21AM

It should be our national holiday , not bloody paddys day

johnnybmac · 05-03-2015 12:23AM

I'd like the governing parties to show some dignity and courage in creating an all party committee to plan the commemorations countrywide.

Why not include everyone from all political backgrounds and make it a day/week of national pride, regardless of where everyone ended up afterwards...

Jaysus, the rising was supposed to be about uniting the country. We can't even unite to celebrate the thing...

CrabRevolution · 05-03-2015 12:24AM

I'm not expecting much from a government which managed to produce a video about the 1916 rising which managed to include Queen Elizabeth, Ian Paisley, Bono, Bob Geldolf and David Cameron, but not even one mention of the actual rising, or of a single one of the 1916 leaders themselves. Not to mention making it look like James Connolly died so that Google and Facebook could set up in Ireland to ensure their billions of profits are taxed at the lowest possible rate.

The commemoration is going to be a feast of pontificating and seeing who can be the best at saying how we need to "mature as a nation" and feel shame about our past.

Baby Jane · 05-03-2015 12:29AM

spiralism wrote: »

Wales, in other words.

Haha!

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the majority of people swapped one oppressor for another

nothing to celebrate

Well independence isn't usually = rosey in the garden immediately.

Karl Stein · 05-03-2015 12:30AM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

John Bruton in particular is a national embarrassment

I find this hard to watch it's so embarrassing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHsvb7k7_ho

*Cringe*

anncoates · 05-03-2015 12:31AM

Wreck the GPO.

KingBrian2 · 05-03-2015 12:38AM

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I'm not expecting much from a government which managed to produce a video about the 1916 rising which managed to include Queen Elizabeth, Ian Paisley, Bono, Bob Geldolf and David Cameron, but not even one mention of the actual rising, or of a single one of the 1916 leaders themselves. Not to mention making it look like James Connolly died so that Google and Facebook could set up in Ireland to ensure their billions of profits are taxed at the lowest possible rate.

The commemoration is going to be a feast of pontificating and seeing who can be the best at saying how we need to "mature as a nation" and feel shame about our past.

We never broke anyone out of jail like the French or tossed tea in the sea like the Americans. Nothing to be embarrassed about. All we did was take over the Post Office for a brief period. The Revolution though bloody was extremely successful in seizing control of the city right under military command. At the height of the War effort Dublin City was guarded by the Rebels & Volunteers with the Police, Army and looters posing a threat to the cities civilian population.

How should 1916 be remembered

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