How should 1916 be remembered

04-03-2015 07:35PM #1

Next year is the anniversary of the 1916 rising, how do you thing it should be remembered, should it be celebrated at all, has the blood sacrifice of 1916 any relevance to the Ireland of today.

Day Lewin · 04-03-2015 07:38PM

Statues on roundabouts. So we can tell the roundabouts apart. If you run out, there's always motorway exits.

bodice ripper · 04-03-2015 07:42PM

I was expecting a thread, but found a Leaving Cert question.

Wompa1 · 04-03-2015 07:42PM

A few quiet pints

JaseBelleVie · 04-03-2015 07:42PM

Invade England.

Mint Aero · 04-03-2015 07:43PM

Miniature flags

pojfexcsc · 04-03-2015 07:43PM

All the hypocrites who glorify 1916 and pour scorn on all other nationalist movements can have a nice sing song and a scoop.

Donkey Oaty · 04-03-2015 07:44PM

Some sort of commemorative tea towel would be enough for me.

c_man · 04-03-2015 07:44PM

I think we should get a day off. It's what the Rising leaders would have wanted.

secman · 04-03-2015 07:45PM

When is it ?

pajc · 04-03-2015 07:45PM

I think it is very relevant to todays Ireland. Without it and the subsequent events it is very possible we would still be a part of the UK.

irish_goat · 04-03-2015 07:46PM

secman wrote: »

When is it ?

Next year.

MistyCheese · 04-03-2015 07:48PM

We should all rise up. Against Germany this time! Tá sé an cosa, eh, go bhfuil sé ag... craic agus capall. Okay I don't speak Irish.

secman · 04-03-2015 07:48PM

Well for one, i refuse to march around a school yard in short trousers like I was made do in 1966 for the 50th anniversary.

LincolnsBeard · 04-03-2015 07:49PM

pajc wrote: »

I think it is very relevant to todays Ireland. Without it and the subsequent events it is very possible we would still be a part of the UK.

And that is a damn shame my friend.

Mr.Shabby · 04-03-2015 07:50PM

A historical re-enactment with nerf guns. Tourists in 2116 can then ask why there are hundreds of foam fingers lodged into the bullet holes in the GPO pillars.

thebaz · 04-03-2015 07:50PM

the new Land League should have a firework celebration from ther new home on the Vico road - should be some spectacle

Karl Stein · 04-03-2015 07:52PM

pajc wrote: »

I think it is very relevant to todays Ireland. Without it and the subsequent events it is very possible we would still be a part of the UK.

A shitty underdeveloped part of the UK. Ireland would have been a bit like that TV show 'Shameless'. Yes, it'd be like 'Shameless' only with Irish accents accompanied by explosions and gun battles in the background.

Only for the 1916 rising, Home Rule, a lack of economic development in Ireland, and the rise of the British welfare state would probably have mainlined Ireland into a position of dependency on transfers from the British/English economy.

Home Rule wouldn't have expunged the Irish psyche of its desire for independence though. In 'Ireland the Dependency' there would still have been a continuous rebellion/insurgency and perhaps a civil war between those served by the status quo and those seeking independence.

We'd likely have become a right ****-hole, like the north in the 70's/80's, an island of Republican strongholds in a mollified dependency; Bogsides, Ardoynes and Divis Flats in all the major populations centres with bandit country in the rural hinterlands.

Arsemageddon · 04-03-2015 07:52PM

secman wrote: »

Well for one, i refuse to march around a school yard in short trousers like I was made do in 1966 for the 50th anniversary.

Padraig Pearse would have loved that!

irishfeen · 04-03-2015 07:53PM

They should be celebrated for what they were - Irish patriots... I'd love to see party politics being put aside for the events, think everyone on the island should be represented including Unionists and Orangemen.

stimpson · 04-03-2015 07:53PM

I wasn't even born in 1916. How the **** am I meant to remember it?

Wide Load · 04-03-2015 07:54PM

Few pints?

irishfeen · 04-03-2015 07:56PM

Wide Load wrote: »

Few pints?

be grand..

04-03-2015 07:58PM

1916 should always be remembered as the year the stupid British Summer Time was introduced.
I think we should campaign for it to be abolished in 2016.

bodice ripper · 04-03-2015 08:05PM

quite honestly, this is where I first heard about 1916:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Heroic_Failures

pajc · 04-03-2015 08:09PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

A shitty underdeveloped part of the UK. Ireland would have been a bit like that TV show 'Shameless'. Yes, it'd be like 'Shameless' only with Irish accents accompanied by explosions and gun battles in the background.

Only for the 1916 rising, Home Rule, a lack of economic development in Ireland, and the rise of the British welfare state would probably have mainlined Ireland into a position of dependency on transfers from the British/English economy.

It wouldn't have expunged the Irish psyche of its desire for independence though. In 'Ireland the Dependency' there would still have been a continuous rebellion/insurgency and perhaps a civil war between those served by the status quo and those seeking independence.

We'd likely have become a right ****-hole, like the north in the 70's/80's, an island of Republican strongholds in a mollified dependency; Bogsides, Ardoynes and Divis Flats in all the major populations centres with bandit country in the rural hinterlands.

I was trying to say not being part of the UK was good thing

spiralism · 04-03-2015 08:12PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

A shitty underdeveloped part of the UK. Ireland would have been a bit like that TV show 'Shameless'. Yes, it'd be like 'Shameless' only with Irish accents accompanied by explosions and gun battles in the background.

Only for the 1916 rising, Home Rule, a lack of economic development in Ireland, and the rise of the British welfare state would probably have mainlined Ireland into a position of dependency on transfers from the British/English economy.

It wouldn't have expunged the Irish psyche of its desire for independence though. In 'Ireland the Dependency' there would still have been a continuous rebellion/insurgency and perhaps a civil war between those served by the status quo and those seeking independence.

We'd likely have become a right ****-hole, like the north in the 70's/80's, an island of Republican strongholds in a mollified dependency; Bogsides, Ardoynes and Divis Flats in all the major populations centres with bandit country in the rural hinterlands.

Wales, in other words.

irishfeen · 04-03-2015 08:12PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

quite honestly, this is where I first heard about 1916:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Heroic_Failures

The 1916 was hardly a failure - it created the conditions where Ireland became ungovernable.. after 1916 Britain could never regain the control it had, Irish nationalism spiraled out of London control from that point onward.

It lead to the 1918 landslide victory by Sinn Fein which eventually brought about the signing of the Anglo Irish Treaty.. the 1916 rising directly led to Irish Independence.

Nodin · 04-03-2015 08:13PM

mariaalice wrote: »

Next year is the anniversary of the 1916 rising, how do you thing it should be remembered, should it be celebrated at all, has the blood sacrifice of 1916 any relevance to the Ireland of today.

We should form groups and be given weapons & ammunition by the Government to take over buildings on the day. We'll be sure to have them back by six, scouts honour.

Nodin · 04-03-2015 08:15PM

stimpson wrote: »

I wasn't even born in 1916. How the **** am I meant to remember it?

You don't have ancestral memories like the rest of us?

04-03-2015 08:17PM

Nodin wrote: »

You don't have ancestral memories like the rest of us?

Or was it not beaten into you at school. Well the version of events the schools used to teach.

How should 1916 be remembered

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