Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

jayo26 · 01-03-2015 03:34PM

viper006 wrote: »

Haha i just popped in to see the reaction to the pool vs city game on here and came across this utter gem. Lord above

More like you were waiting for someone to put up a stupid comment and in fairness you wouldn't have to wait long here and same in the pool thread id say. I don't think the level of players in the two squads are that different id say pool have a few stand out players as do united the difference is that Rodgers has settled his team and tactics where as lvg is still unbelievably working on his.

jayo26 · 01-03-2015 03:38PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Depressing that Liverpool team can click, the only player I'd take is Sterling as an upgrade to Januzaj

That's a silly comment really of all the players id want to swap the least would be Adnan for sterling I'm not saying sterling ain't good but Adnan has his feet on the ground and is professional where as sterling thinks he is bigger then the team. Id also have coutinho in our team and sturridge and i think young ibe has loads of potential. Just because you hate the team don't mean you cant give credit.

01-03-2015 03:40PM

jayo26 wrote: »

More like you were waiting for someone to put up a stupid comment and in fairness you wouldn't have to wait long here and same in the pool thread id say. I don't think the level of players in the two squads are that different id say pool have a few stand out players as do united the difference is that Rodgers has settled his team and tactics where as lvg is still unbelievably working on his.

Go way out of that with your sensible reasoned comments, that's not what I drop in here every now and again to read

01-03-2015 03:48PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

In your opinion. Couldn't disagree more.

Mata I assume you mean?

Yeah I'm sure after Mata and Kagawa's problems at United Coutinho would come in and take the league by storm.

I'm not saying anything about how they are playing now or current form but United have better players in every position bar Sterling over the wingers just a shít system that doesn't take advantage of their strengths. Rodgers is outmanaging Van Gaal but I think it's more to do with LVG's failings than anything special Rodgers has done this season.

jayo26 · 01-03-2015 03:49PM

poolboy wrote: »

Go way out of that with your sensible reasoned comments, that's not what I drop in here every now and again to read

I don't deny what you might read here ha i don't for one minute doubt the level of bull you read here but i also know it goes on in other forums too. I'll comment the way i want i never comment on a pool thread i have never maid a comment to disregard any teams entire squad so i wasn't making a so called sensible comment for sake of. Anyway shows the level of what your at the fact that your in a united thread after your team having got a big win.

01-03-2015 03:54PM

Liam O wrote: »

Yeah I'm sure after Mata and Kagawa's problems at United Coutinho would come in and take the league by storm.

I'm not saying anything about how they are playing now or current form but United have better players in every position bar Sterling over the wingers just a shít system that doesn't take advantage of their strengths. Rodgers is outmanaging Van Gaal but I think it's more to do with LVG's failings than anything special Rodgers has done this season.

Yeah, it's all Van Gaals fault. Come on, a lot of the players just aren't good enough.

It's funny how two of the best managers in football dont trust Mata.

Coutinhio offers more overall to a team. Tracking back and pressing and quick interplay.

edgecutter · 01-03-2015 03:55PM

Liverpool are up and coming now, but it's still in our hands and that is the way I would have wanted it had this been offered to us back in September.

01-03-2015 03:59PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah, it's all Van Gaals fault. Come on, a lot of the players just aren't good enough.

It's funny how two of the best managers in football dont trust Mata.

Coutinhio offers more overall to a team. Tracking back and pressing and quick interplay.

They're good enough for their previous clubs, their international team but not to beat the likes of Swansea or whoever in the PL. It's definitely been his fault.

Rayne Wooney · 01-03-2015 04:00PM

It seems these discussions only appear when Liverpool are on form and disappear when they aren't

All their players are the best and you can't argue with it

Coutinho who was lambasted regularly a couple of months ago is better than Di Maria and Mata no doubt, good for the lols if anything

01-03-2015 04:01PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah, it's all Van Gaals fault. Come on, a lot of the players just aren't good enough.

It's funny how two of the best managers in football dont trust Mata.

Coutinhio offers more overall to a team. Tracking back and pressing and quick interplay.

Moyes actually rated him quite highly.

01-03-2015 04:02PM

Liam O wrote: »

They're good enough for their previous clubs, their international team but not to beat the likes of Swansea or whoever in the PL. It's definitely been his fault.

I think it's a bit of both.

Van Gaal playing a system that doesnt suit and some of the players just not up to scratch.

01-03-2015 04:06PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It seems these discussions only appear when Liverpool are on form and disappear when they aren't

All their players are the best and you can't argue with it

Coutinho who was lambasted regularly a couple of months ago is better than Di Maria and Mata no doubt, good for the lols if anything

And yet it was a Utd fan (Liam) that started the debate.

Anyway, it doesnt make some of the points made invalid just because you dont agree with them. It's a fair debate tbh

01-03-2015 04:17PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I think it's a bit of both.

Van Gaal playing a system that doesnt suit and some of the players just not up to scratch.

But how did 4 or 5 players form just cliff dive then? It's not a coincidence, Mata is a top player, has been for 5 or so years now if not before that. Di Maria was in the world team of the year for LAST YEAR, Falcao is one of the best goalscorers Europe has ever seen and you can see from his play yesterday that when he gets the ball in the right positions he still has the touch and ability to do something special. He just can't do that when he only touches it around the halfway line with his back to goal.

LVG got every advantage that Moyes didn't too. Buckets of money and a chance to ship out the older, underperforming players without a backlash. He has been terrible really. I think he can turn it around but his stubborness is a big problem.

01-03-2015 04:23PM

Liam O wrote: »

But how did 4 or 5 players form just cliff dive then? It's not a coincidence, Mata is a top player, has been for 5 or so years now if not before that. Di Maria was in the world team of the year for LAST YEAR, Falcao is one of the best goalscorers Europe has ever seen and you can see from his play yesterday that when he gets the ball in the right positions he still has the touch and ability to do something special. He just can't do that when he only touches it around the halfway line with his back to goal.

Mata is a luxury player imo. Van Gaal obviously doesn't see him as a Utd player.

Di Maria started great, looked like he was gonna take the league by storm. He's been played in strange positions by Van Gaal for sure but his overall play recently has been poor.

Falcao, I don't know what's going on there. Not getting great service a factor. He still hasn't to return to pre injury level

01-03-2015 04:26PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Mata is a luxury player imo. Van Gaal obviously doesn't see him as a Utd player.

Di Maria started great, looked like he was gonna take the league by storm. He's been played in strange positions by Van Gaal for sure but his overall play recently has been poor.

Falcao, I don't know what's going on there. Not getting great service a factor. He still hasn't to return to pre injury level

I feel if any of the 3 were in the Liverpool team that we'd be talking about player of the year contenders this season tbh. For all Rodgers' failings he does get the best out of his better players I think. It's the passable ones that give him problems.

rob316 · 01-03-2015 04:28PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Depressing that Liverpool team can click, the only player I'd take is Sterling as an upgrade to Januzaj

Lol sturridge, coutinho, henderson, moreno, skrtel would stroll in too.

Timmyctc · 01-03-2015 04:32PM

rob316 wrote: »

Lol sturridge, coutinho, henderson, moreno, skrtel would stroll in too.

:eek:

01-03-2015 04:34PM

Moreno? United have 3 players who can play left back and I'm not sure Moreno is better than any of them.

I forgot about Henderson but would still prefer either Herrera or Fellaini to him I think.

Skrtel is as big an accident waiting to happen as the United trio who have the luxury of being younger too.

Sturridge would have a shout but in that position United have RVP, Rooney and Falcao and when played in a system that rewards strikers I'd bet on them to outscore Sturridge.

Coutinho I've already said my piece on.

Rayne Wooney · 01-03-2015 04:35PM

full of lols

Sturridge would be 3rd or 4th choice, Coutinho 3rd choice, Moreno could play for the reserves I suppose

Squirtle could play but that's more down to most of our CBs being awful

Forgot about Henderson earlier, he'd be a good option for midfield, him and Sterling the only ones I'd take

01-03-2015 04:35PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

:eek:

Football is all about opinions as they say in the overused cliche.

Utd and Liverpool are only seperated by two points so I'd say it'd be a fairly evenly matched combined team (as silly as they are) tbh.

Fcuk all between the teams really.

Giggsy11 · 01-03-2015 04:39PM

Thought we had 3 more weeks for this combined 11 thing.

What's even the point of combined 11?

Timmyctc · 01-03-2015 04:40PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Football is all about opinions as they say in the overused cliche.

Utd and Liverpool are only seperated by two points so I'd say it'd be a fairly evenly matched combined team (as silly as they are) tbh.

Fcuk all between the teams really.

Sturridge might hobble into United's team. But I'd certainly take any of Roo, RvP or Falcao over him.

Quandary · 01-03-2015 04:40PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Fcuk all between the teams really.

At this point in time considering the form both teams are in Liverpool are streets ahead of Utd. There are signs lately though that LVG is finally figuring things out so by the time we play ye at Anfield, it could be a very interesting match.

Timmyctc · 01-03-2015 04:40PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

full of lols

Sturridge would be 3rd or 4th choice, Coutinho 3rd choice, Moreno could play for the reserves I suppose

Squirtle could play but that's more down to most of our CBs being awful

Forgot about Henderson earlier, he'd be a good option for midfield, him and Sterling the only ones I'd take

Coutinho would walk into our team on current form. Then have the form drained out of him by the way we set up.

01-03-2015 04:42PM

Quandary wrote: »

At this point in time considering the form both teams are in Liverpool are streets ahead of Utd. There are signs lately though that LVG is finally figuring things out so by the time we play ye at Anfield, it could be a very interesting match.

I think we'll all agree on that. Hugely important for both teams

Whatsisname · 01-03-2015 04:43PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

full of lols

Sturridge would be 3rd or 4th choice, Coutinho 3rd choice, Moreno could play for the reserves I suppose

Squirtle could play but that's more down to most of our CBs being awful

Forgot about Henderson earlier, he'd be a good option for midfield, him and Sterling the only ones I'd take

Nalz · 01-03-2015 04:44PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Sturridge might hobble into United's team. But I'd certainly take any of Roo, RvP or Falcao over him.

Current Rvp over Sturridge. I wouldn't.

Falcao hasn't set the world alight either.

Pyjamarama · 01-03-2015 04:44PM

United could use any of the pacey Liverpool forwards.

bucketybuck · 01-03-2015 04:45PM

Quandary wrote: »

There are signs lately though that LVG is finally figuring things

There are?

Quandary · 01-03-2015 04:48PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

There are?

Yes, I definitely think we have looked better over the last two games, even despite the loss at Swansea. You might chose to disagree with that but for me, we have started to improve.

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