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28-02-2015 04:55PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Rooney was better than just those two occasions. But I agree that Young and Smalling were better

If a winger doesn't create anything of note or score then they haven't done well, Young's lack of a good final ball is being glossed over by a lot of people this season. He's looked a lot better than he's actually played because he's beat a few players.

28-02-2015 04:56PM

Southampton lose

beno619 · 28-02-2015 04:56PM

Some solid performances all around Young,Smalling Herrera in particular, nice to see Jan returning to a bit of form.

Thought Blind was disappointing and Di Maria was awful.

Nalz · 28-02-2015 04:56PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Good performance my hole. The first half was a bad as we've ever played.

+100

I have no idea what the people saying we'd win 3-0 or more where basing it on, as bad as Sunderland are.

We'd do better with Trap as manager and with Giggs still playing :pac:

I can't forget about it and just chalk it down as a win, because its so similar to the same shyte we've seen all season.

Timmyctc · 28-02-2015 04:56PM

Liam O wrote: »

If a winger doesn't create anything of note or score then they haven't done well, Young's lack of a good final ball is being glossed over by a lot of people this season. He's looked a lot better than he's actually played because he's beat a few players.

You're at this again. Young put in plenty of good balls, balls to good areas that should've been attacked (one that Falcao should've been finishing) and balls that strikers couldnt finish. You cant admit that Young has probably been one of our best players this season.

Giggsy11 · 28-02-2015 04:56PM

Not a very good performance but a decent one. Sunderland defender with numbers and our players found it hard to break down. Had Young's shot went in maybe we would have seen a different game.

Also apart from first 10-15 mins, we controlled the game completely. IIRC it was close to 75% possession and most of the game in Sunderland half.

Young was very good in the first half, Januzaj did well after coming on. Herrera was very tidy in possession and played some nice passes. Smalling was excellent and for a change even Evans did well.

The Moldy Gowl · 28-02-2015 04:57PM

I missed the first 30 minutes so only saw the last 60 btw.

They had 10 men behind the ball in fairness

Nalz · 28-02-2015 04:58PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I missed the first 30 minutes so only saw the last 60 btw.

They had 10 men behind the ball in fairness

the last 60 wasn't as bad, but how could you call it "good"?

Giggsy11 · 28-02-2015 04:58PM

Liam O wrote: »

If a winger doesn't create anything of note or score then they haven't done well, Young's lack of a good final ball is being glossed over by a lot of people this season. He's looked a lot better than he's actually played because he's beat a few players.

Young played many excellent crosses, it's not his mistake if strikers don't attack them.

Kerrydude1981 · 28-02-2015 05:00PM

Cant understand what is going wrong with Di Maria,he looks a pale shadow of the player we saw when he came first.

The Moldy Gowl · 28-02-2015 05:01PM

Trilla wrote: »

the last 60 wasn't as bad, but how could you call it "good"?

What was wrong with it? They dominated the game. Sunderland had 8 players in the box most of the time?

irishfeen · 28-02-2015 05:02PM

Everton and City win and i'm a very happy lad this weekend

Nalz · 28-02-2015 05:02PM

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Cant understand what is going wrong with Di Maria,he looks a pale shadow of the player we saw when he came first.

Personal stuff might be niggling at him, isn't the wife unhappy here?
I'd love to see him in a 4-3-3 or formation tbh.

But there is something other than or as well as tactics effecting him.

jayo26 · 28-02-2015 05:03PM

I'm happy with that result today if not the entire performance but at end of the day the result is what matters here. Four point gap over saints and hopefully pool will loose tomorrow not a bad weekends work.

adox · 28-02-2015 05:05PM

adox wrote: »

It's my mothers birthday today. She's 75. She's a Utd supporter. Along with my wife and my sister(who is also a Utd fan) we are bringing her out for lunch before heading back to her house to watch the Utd match.

Now I am in no way a spiritual man but there is no way, for the day that's in it, that Utd won't win.

Nothing is going to spoil my mothers birthday today.

We is happy!

Nalz · 28-02-2015 05:05PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

What was wrong with it? They dominated the game. Sunderland had 8 players in the box most of the time?

We dominated the ball not the game imo
Up until the hour mark we showed very little in terms of guile or penetration. It didn't get much better after that.

UnitedIrishman · 28-02-2015 05:05PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I missed the first 30 minutes so only saw the last 60 btw.

They had 10 men behind the ball in fairness

First half was fairly chronic albeit against a 10 man defence.

Second half was much better and we were far more balanced with Januzaj on the right.

28-02-2015 05:07PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Young played many excellent crosses, it's not his mistake if strikers don't attack them.

If a cross is good it will be met with an attempt. A common misconception is that a good looking cross is a good cross. If a cross isn't in a position for a striker to get it then it's not a good cross. Young puts a load of speculative balls into the box that aren't any use to anyone, he's always been like that. He's still nowhere near good enough for United.

Kerrydude1981 · 28-02-2015 05:07PM

Trilla wrote: »

Personal stuff might be niggling at him, isn't the wife unhappy here?
I'd love to see him in a 4-3-3 or formation tbh.

But there is something other than or as well as tactics effecting him.

Must be something because his confidence seems to be shot.

The Moldy Gowl · 28-02-2015 05:08PM

Trilla wrote: »

We dominated the ball not the game imo
Up until the hour mark we showed very little in terms of guile or penetration. It didn't get much better after that.

8 men in the box.

Think I'll just resign myself to people will just never be happy and will bitch about anything.

Nalz · 28-02-2015 05:09PM

Liam O wrote: »

If a cross is good it will be met with an attempt. A common misconception is that a good looking cross is a good cross. If a cross isn't in a position for a striker to get it then it's not a good cross. Young puts a load of speculative balls into the box that aren't any use to anyone, he's always been like that. He's still nowhere near good enough for United.

How many times have you heard pundits and commentators saying someone should be there for that or someone should be attacking that cross?

I have umteen times.

What you say above means they're wrong to say that, as a good cross is only a good cross if its met with an attempt.

I call bollox on that mate.

TheDoc · 28-02-2015 05:10PM

So weirs. Dominated the game...Sunderland happy to sit off...but we didn't capitalise and create proper chances throughout.

The 20 shots stat is flattering...struggle to remember more than four.

For all that possession and dominance it was laboured and I was really worried until the peno went in.

Smalling was superb...Blind was on point as usual, Herrera did well,Young had a good game and Januzaj was decent coming on.

Di Maria was toxic first half. Looks shot of confidence and short on ideas. Really poor run of form from him.

Falcao again looked like a Sunday league baller. Back to goal here is utterly rubbish. How he isn't told to just stand up top is beyond me. Its Chico all over again...we don't play with width and lashing in cross after cross...we have no room for a poacher in the team. So disappointing.....

Worried for Mata. Game like that was his calling. Instead gets six minutes at the end. I'd say he is off in the summer.

Really taking to Herrera. The positions he takes up lingering around the box are excellent.

Quandary · 28-02-2015 05:10PM

The good -
Herrera continues to justify his place in the first 11. Himself and Blind started a bit shaky but became much more solid as the game developed. The two of them are always running into space looking for the pass which is great to see. Young did really well, Valencia had a good game, Januzaj definitely made us more dangerous, Smalling was decent and very composed when called upon. Rooney was average enough but he did score both of our goals and will hopefully stay up front. He is our best striker and if he hits a run of form he could make a massive difference in our remaining games.

The bad -
Di Maria was very poor. Seemed like his head was not in the game at all. Also feel a bit sorry for Falcao because he did brilliantly to win the peno but I can understand why he was taken off.

3 points in the bag, the performances are improving but now we need to start producing it away from home.

Southampton starting to run out of steam now. They've lost 4 of their last 6 matches. Hopefully we'll see them start to fade away. If Everton can take points off Arsenal and City do the same to Liverpool we will be in a decent position.

Here's to hoping we can start a run of form now

jayo26 · 28-02-2015 05:10PM

In fairness to di Maria some of the greatest foreigners to play in the prem didn't settle in the first year. Yhh you can look at Sanchez and costa and say they have but other players have taken a year to settle too. Maybe the robbery shook him up a little but I wouldn't give up on him yet and claim its the end of the road for him..

Giggsy11 · 28-02-2015 05:11PM

Liam O wrote: »

If a cross is good it will be met with an attempt. A common misconception is that a good looking cross is a good cross. If a cross isn't in a position for a striker to get it then it's not a good cross. Young puts a load of speculative balls into the box that aren't any use to anyone, he's always been like that. He's still nowhere near good enough for United.

That's nonsense. Players are not static to play the cross and defenders are not static either. Young's cross to near post was excellent one, it was striker's mistake to not attack or make a run.

Nalz · 28-02-2015 05:12PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

8 men in the box.

Think I'll just resign myself to people will just never be happy and will bitch about anything.

That was not a "good" performance like you said.
First half was very poor.
Second half was average.

I'm just giving my opinion, its not bitching.

Di Maria was shít today - thats not bitching either. Rubbish in fact.

Its not good enough.

28-02-2015 05:12PM

Trilla wrote: »

How many times have you heard pundits and commentators saying someone should be there for that or someone should be attacking that cross?

I have umteen times.

What you say above means they're wrong to say that, as a good cross is only a good cross if its met with an attempt.

I call bollox on that mate.

Pundits and commentators? Jesus that's clutching at straws

That almost backs up my point. What's the point of putting it in if there's nobody there to meet it? If you are on a different wavelength to the strikers then it's not much use, a cleared "good" cross with nobody near it is useless to everyone.

irishfeen · 28-02-2015 05:13PM

Marcos Rojo is a sound old skin i'd say ... he is flat out retweeting fans messages on twitter - genuinely think playing for United is his absolute dream.

Nalz · 28-02-2015 05:14PM

Liam O wrote: »

Pundits and commentators? Jesus that's clutching at straws

Why is it? Explain.

Attackers can make a last second change in their run, doesn't mean the crosser is not on the same "wavelength" as the attacker.
Attackers can make mistakes off the ball too

28-02-2015 05:15PM

Trilla wrote: »

Why is it? Explain.

Because they are the most cliché ridden people you could listen to in the game. Normally former players from 20 or 30 years ago.

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