[Superthread] Mayweather vs Pacman NO STREAMING REQUESTS

Kirby · 26-02-2015 07:31PM

TheNap wrote: »

And again the same things are happening in the lead up to a Mayweather fight most recently ( Hatton De Le Hoya Alvarez ) when people are predicting he will lose and why his opponent will win.

Then Mayweather will win and the same people will downplay his win with reasons why he did. Opponent was too small , too inexperienced , too old etc

Er...what thread are you reading? Hardly anybody in here thinks he'll lose. We've all gone for a Floyd win. I think out of 50 people in the thread about 3 have gone for Manny. I know you are trying to spin the narrative that Floyd is the plucky underdog for some reason but he's not.

He's the favourite and people know it. He'll win on points after a frustrating and dour fight. It's an almost certainty. Betting on any other outcome is just throwing money away.

moneyman · 26-02-2015 07:34PM

TheNap wrote: »

And again the same things are happening in the lead up to a Mayweather fight most recently ( Hatton De Le Hoya Alvarez ) when people are predicting he will lose and why his opponent will win.

Then Mayweather will win and the same people will downplay his win with reasons why he did. Opponent was too small , too inexperienced , too old etc

Yawn

Slightly disappointed there will be no 24/7 or All Access though . But i presume they will have something different for this

Don't know where you're getting this tbh, the vast majority of people I've seen posting about this (both on here and other places) are picking Floyd to win comfortably.

I think Floyd will win, I give Manny a chance but not a great one. I'd obviously love to see Floyd lose given that he's a piece of ****, but you can't deny his talent in the ring. I think he'll duck and dive and pot shot his way to a points decision, fairly comfortably too.

anto77 · 26-02-2015 08:05PM

I'm predicting..... a draw....20-1 seems like good value to me....

Floyd keeps his 0 and all involved return in September to get a second blockbuster payday....

:cool:

kryogen · 26-02-2015 10:29PM

TheNap wrote: »

And again the same things are happening in the lead up to a Mayweather fight most recently ( Hatton De Le Hoya Alvarez ) when people are predicting he will lose and why his opponent will win.

Then Mayweather will win and the same people will downplay his win with reasons why he did. Opponent was too small , too inexperienced , too old etc

Yawn

Slightly disappointed there will be no 24/7 or All Access though . But i presume they will have something different for this

Yes, the overwhelming tide of thought that Mayweather will lose is very prevalent here

Talib Fiasco · 26-02-2015 10:46PM

Draw is a great call. With how corrupt boxing is and given the two fighters a draw wouldn't surprise me in the slightest....another massive pay day for all concerned and the 'fans get what they wanted' all over again. And all dodgy dealings aside a draw wouldnt be a bizarre prediction between these two. Regardless the odds Manny are too good not to bet big on him.

Joeseph Balls · 26-02-2015 11:03PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Draw is a great call. With how corrupt boxing is and given the two fighters a draw wouldn't surprise me in the slightest....another massive pay day for all concerned and the 'fans get what they wanted' all over again. And all dodgy dealings aside a draw wouldnt be a bizarre prediction between these two. Regardless the odds Manny are too good not to bet big on him.

Wouldn't it be gas if that was the case then FM slipped a jab dropping into an uppercut. I expect a boring but boxing masterclass by FM, but hey , I can dream

zindicato · 26-02-2015 11:33PM

Halloween Jack wrote: »

His win against de la hoya was a bit suspect too, oscar had no business fighting at 147 at that stage, looked absolutely skeletal on the night and you could tell something was wrong from before he even got in the ring.

De la hoya had zero energy and hardly moved all night he was so boiled down. Stupid move on his team's part to take that fight.

and how many weight classes did he jump to get into 147 at that time??/ people always focus on delahoya but they forget the lil man had to jump a couple of weight classes for that fight:rolleyes:

kryogen · 26-02-2015 11:58PM

De La Hoya was widely expected to take Manny apart, they actually wouldn't show the fight in the Philippines I believe because they were so sure he was going to be destroyed.

kryogen · 27-02-2015 12:04AM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Draw is a great call. With how corrupt boxing is and given the two fighters a draw wouldn't surprise me in the slightest....another massive pay day for all concerned and the 'fans get what they wanted' all over again. And all dodgy dealings aside a draw wouldnt be a bizarre prediction between these two. Regardless the odds Manny are too good not to bet big on him.

I threw a tenner on it for that very reason, the corruption of the sport and the guaranteed second insane payday for all concerned

Joeseph Balls · 27-02-2015 12:24AM

kryogen wrote: »

I threw a tenner on it for that very reason, the corruption of the sport and the guaranteed second insane payday for all concerned

Do you honestly think FM would settle for the draw?
I can't see it. I think this Will be put to bed may 2nd. The best for a replay is if it's close. And Floyd knows what to do second time. The only hope is if Manny edges him in the fight and its called a draw. Floyd is taking this fight for a reason, and its not like Ronnie o Sullivan s return, he dosnt need the money.
Just my take on it, but stranger things have happened.

Halloween Jack · 27-02-2015 01:38AM

zindicato wrote: »

and how many weight classes did he jump to get into 147 at that time??/ people always focus on delahoya but they forget the lil man had to jump a couple of weight classes for that fight:rolleyes:

Manny was actually heavier on the night, that's how ****ed up de la Hoya was trying to get down to 147.

Manny did his job, but it was a ghost version of the goldenboy that night, heavily fancied to win or not....

Talib Fiasco · 27-02-2015 02:08AM

Oscar made 147 easily though, think he weighed a few pounds under at the weighin and was the one who actually agreed to fighting at 147.

kryogen · 27-02-2015 02:41AM

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Do you honestly think FM would settle for the draw?
I can't see it. I think this Will be put to bed may 2nd. The best for a replay is if it's close. And Floyd knows what to do second time. The only hope is if Manny edges him in the fight and its called a draw. Floyd is taking this fight for a reason, and its not like Ronnie o Sullivan s return, he dosnt need the money.
Just my take on it, but stranger things have happened.

Under certain circumstances yes I think he would be open to a draw, he would still be undefeated and would make have the perfect set up to the final fight of his career in a re match.

Of course a draw could be out of his hands also, it could just be set up without his approval, it is boxing.

I don't think the draw is very likely, hence the tenner bet and not anything of significance.

It is known that Showtime have come under pressure from their parent company (CBS and apparently from the very top Leslie Moonves) who have invested a lot in Mayweather and have so far not seen the return expected in terms of numbers, there is little interest in Mayweather fighting anybody else really at this point and this is the only big ppv left for him.

Haymon has paid NBC 20million for air time to promote his own fighters, to get his stable up and running he needs to be earning and what could be more lucrative then a Mayweather v Pacquiao fight? A Mayweather v Pacquiao rematch after a controversial decision/draw

It was reported that he was told in no uncertain terms to deliver the fight or he was done with Showtime, and considering he is already banned by HBO that would pose serious problems for his ambitions.

I think if Haymon tells Floyd they are gonna do two fights v Pac then Floyd will accept anyway, he has already said he will do whatever Haymon tells him, that Haymon is the man who could make him a billionaire, when he was talking about shaking up his team after the Maidana rematch he said this -

Floyd wrote:

"Al Haymon is the truth. He might make me a billion dollars."

I think it is fair to say he places a lot of stock in Haymon.

Anyway I am kind of going off point here, so suffice to say that yes there are circumstances where I can see a draw being played out here, but not a particularly likely event.

Talib Fiasco · 27-02-2015 03:08AM

I think if Floyd beats Manny then I think his next and possibly last fight will be a unification bout with probably Brook or Khan. Being undisputed champ is literally the only honour Floyd has left to get so it'd make perfect sense, especially if it was against Khan who'd be a solid draw for sales.

kryogen · 27-02-2015 03:22AM

Not in America though, in the UK yeah of course but not in the US where he would want to fight. Mayweather has said this already. I think if Kahn could keep a solid game plan he could actually pose a problem with his speed, but Floyd might sneeze at some point and knock him out also.

Deiseboy01 · 27-02-2015 09:45AM

Halloween Jack wrote: »

His win against de la hoya was a bit suspect too, oscar had no business fighting at 147 at that stage, looked absolutely skeletal on the night and you could tell something was wrong from before he even got in the ring.

De la hoya had zero energy and hardly moved all night he was so boiled down. Stupid move on his team's part to take that fight.

At that stage the only thing on De la Hoyas mind was dollars

walshb · 27-02-2015 10:13AM

I found the whole meeting of the two at basketball games and cosy chats in hotel rooms a little odd. Bit too cosy for my liking. This is pro boxing, and nothing would surprise me. Ok, Mayweather arranging a draw would surprise me. Mayweather really values the perfect record. I'm confused...

jjdonegal · 27-02-2015 10:23AM

walshb wrote: »

I found the whole meeting of the two at basketball games and cosy chats in hotel rooms a little odd. Bit too cosy for my liking. This is pro boxing, and nothing would surprise me. Ok, Mayweather arranging a draw would surprise me. Mayweather really values the perfect record. I'm confused...

Yeah surely that basketball meeting was all staged! Yeah cannot see Mayweather wanting to lose his 0. If Manny manages to be the better man on the night then a corrupt draw wouldn't surprise me to be honest.

walshb · 27-02-2015 11:45AM

I think a Floyd loss will affect his legacy quite a bit. Manny is the clearly smaller man, the man who has moved from the really low weights up. He is not a monster, is beatable, and a really skilled and clever technician, with a clear size advantage should be beating him without major trouble. Floyd for me should try his best to be very assertive and try to dominate Manny. Will he?

Halloween Jack · 27-02-2015 11:54AM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Oscar made 147 easily though, think he weighed a few pounds under at the weighin and was the one who actually agreed to fighting at 147.

A massive mistake on his part.....

Chrissybhoy · 27-02-2015 12:29PM

Two fantastic boxers. I say now what I would of 5/6 years ago. The man with more all around quality wins Floyd Mayweather.

Joeseph Balls · 27-02-2015 12:46PM

walshb wrote: »

Will he?

Yes

jjdonegal · 27-02-2015 03:06PM

Transnistria wrote: »

Why does it have to be staged? These things can happen, not that I'm saying it wasn't staged.

Just my own theory. Created huge publicity so I keep thinking it was. Your probably right it's just my own thoughts.

JR6 · 27-02-2015 08:04PM

Dunno is it known/announced but Will this be on Boxnation or PPV for viewers in Ireland?

Kop On · 27-02-2015 08:12PM

JR6 wrote: »

Dunno is it known/announced but Will this be on Boxnation or PPV for viewers in Ireland?

Boxnation, Sky and BT will all be bidding for the rights to show it apparently. Either way it's bound to be PPV everywhere.

anto77 · 27-02-2015 08:34PM

Kop On wrote: »

Boxnation, Sky and BT will all be bidding for the rights to show it apparently. Either way it's bound to be PPV everywhere.

Perhaps sky is rethinking after last time out, they owe the fans one back after cleverly bellew

anto77 · 27-02-2015 08:52PM

kryogen wrote: »

I threw a tenner on it for that very reason, the corruption of the sport and the guaranteed second insane payday for all concerned

I think floyd will have two fights versus Manny as if the first is anyways close at all, Manny be given a draw.

The first will be scored 116-112, 114-114 and 113-115....floyd will still claim the perfect record because of the extra round!:pac:

They will fight again in sept, floyd will win a clear points decision and both their grandkids will have more money than they can ever spend....

Floyd will return in 2016 as the lure of being undefeated for 20 yrs and the 50th fight will be too great a pull. He'll knock out Khan in the first round and retire off into the sunset.

Halloween Jack · 28-02-2015 12:54PM

Manny has recorded this intense brooding ring walk music, sure to strike fear into the hearts of his opponents;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JhS4mTcNsC0

walshb · 02-03-2015 01:08PM

Watching Ringside last week I am betting that Sky will be getting this, and it will of course be PPV...

Andrew Flexing · 02-03-2015 03:23PM

walshb wrote: »

Watching Ringside last week I am betting that Sky will be getting this, and it will of course be PPV...

I heard RTÉ have a big bid in for exclusive rights...but only if Jimmy Magee agree on commentator duties.

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