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  • #362
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,941 ✭✭✭20Cent


    HardenendMan wrote: »
    Eh...do what they want in my property? So I should allow drugs, paedos, rapes etc in my property too yeah? Great reasoning there.



    In a way. I would also treat him differently if he wanted to do something else in my gaff that I would find repulsive. I don't think I need to list 100 examples.

    Threads about a rental property different to a private home.


  • #363
    HardenendMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Why do you keep saying you dont treat him differently because of his sexuality when you clearly do? Saying it repeatedly doesnt make it true.

    Huff this is frustrating. You are implying that I am bigoted and homophobic.

    What I am saying is that I treat him better than any other person (maybe with the exception of my wife) on this earth. I don't do that because he is gay. Being gay doesn't come into it. I love him as a brother and friend.

    But I do let him know that gay sex (between men) is something that makes me wretch. Sorry but it does. As I said he laughs about it.

    So... in the CONTEXT of this thread, I would not want him doing his gay shenanigans in my villa or whatever.


  • #364
    HardenendMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    20Cent wrote: »
    Threads about a rental property different to a private home.

    Maybe for some, not for me. Tough $hit.


  • #365
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Different to a straight person. He just said if his brother was straight he wouldnt treat him like that.

    He would still be repulsed by anal sex between men if his brother was straight. Get it?


  • #366
    HardenendMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Different to a straight person. He just said if his brother was straight he wouldnt treat him like that.

    Treat him "like that"? Like my brother and best friend? Or did you miss that bit?


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  • #367
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,941 ✭✭✭20Cent


    HardenendMan wrote: »
    Huff this is frustrating. You are implying that I am bigoted and homophobic.

    What I am saying is that I treat him better than any other person (maybe with the exception of my wife) on this earth. I don't do that because he is gay. Being gay doesn't come into it. I love him as a brother and friend.

    But I do let him know that gay sex (between men) is something that makes me wretch. Sorry but it does. As I said he laughs about it.

    So... in the CONTEXT of this thread, I would not want him doing his gay shenanigans in my villa or whatever.

    If you rent out a place its different to your own home. Simples.


  • #368
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    HardenendMan wrote: »
    Huff this is frustrating. You are implying that I am bigoted and homophobic

    I did not claim either actually but pointed out your repeated claim of treating someone the same simply isnt true.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #369
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    It suits the homosexual agenda to brand everyone who has a problem with homosexuality as a homophobe.Put the dissenter down at all costs to prove how right you are!

    They want their rights but God (or the hairy monster) forbid anyone who would say they have a right to disagree.
    Everyone doesn't have to agree with you. And not everyone who disagrees wants to stone you.
    I have married homosexuals in my family. I disagree with them over their stance but we can treat each other as equals without anyone being called a bigot.


  • #370
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    I did not claim either actually but pointed out your repeated claim of treating someone the same simply isnt true.

    Do you treat homosexuals the same as everyone else?


  • #371
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    reprise wrote: »
    He would still be repulsed by anal sex between men if his brother was straight. Get it?

    He's treating his brother differently because his brother has gay sex - get it?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #372
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    reprise wrote: »
    Shuddering at the thought of two guys having anal sex is homophobia?

    There are numerous heterosexual people about the place whom the thought of them having sex makes me shudder. But I wouldn't want to prevent them getting married or not rent out a house to them because I don't like thinking about them having sex.

    Perhaps landlords, hoteliers, holiday home owners should only accept tenants/patrons that they like to think about having sex?


  • #373
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    He's treating his brother differently because his brother has gay sex - get it?

    Differently to who? his mother?, the milkman?


  • #374
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    reprise wrote: »
    Differently to who? his mother?, the milkman?

    He just said it. I asked if his brother was straight would he have a problem. He said no.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #375
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,941 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Kehlani Cold Trek wrote: »
    It suits the homosexual agenda to brand everyone who has a problem with homosexuality as a homophobe.Put the dissenter down at all costs to prove how right you are!

    They want their rights but God (or the hairy monster) forbid anyone who would say they have a right to disagree.
    Everyone doesn't have to agree with you. And not everyone who disagrees wants to stone you.
    I have married homosexuals in my family. I disagree with them over their stance but we can treat each other as equals without anyone being called a bigot.

    Depends why do you "disagree with them over their stance" and what form does that take?


  • #376
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    There are numerous heterosexual people about the place whom the thought of them having sex makes me shudder.

    You are not being called a bigot or a phobic for simply that sentiment. HardenendMan is.


  • #377
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    He just said it. I asked if his brother was straight would he have a problem.

    His mythical brother? Why not ask him how he would feel if his mythical brother was a rapist or a paedophile and give your thoughts on that?


  • #378
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Can't see the problem with this, it's their home, their choice. Maybe religious grounds are the reason.

    Same as the cake shop up North really, but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

    'the gay brigade'
    Cause we are clearly the ones at fault here.


  • #379
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    reprise wrote: »
    His mythical brother? Why not ask him how he would feel if his mythical brother was a rapist or a paedophile and give your thoughts on that?

    Is his milkman a paedophile?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #380
    HardenendMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    He just said it. I asked if his brother was straight would he have a problem. He said no.

    What is this "problem" I have with my brother???

    I just don't want to know about his personal sexual life. Not because he is gay specifically. If he was into mad stuff (let's say water sports with a women) then I wouldn't want him talking about it. And I wouldn't want it in my property.

    But it seems that I have to pander and encourage gay men's sexual indulgences to not be labelled a bigot. That's a bit harsh, IMO, that's my main point really. Don't think I am an awful person.


  • #381
    20Cent
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    reprise wrote: »
    You are not being called a bigot or a phobic for simply that sentiment. HardenendMan is.

    Hardman took it further than that in fairness.


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  • #382
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Is his milkman a paedophile?

    Let me guess, he'd be your best friend either way, wouldn't he, Mr. Equality.


  • #383
    HardenendMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    20Cent wrote: »
    Hardman took it further than that in fairness.

    Took it further how? By being honest?

    Answer honestly - based on what I posted - do you think I am a homophobe?


  • #384
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    HardenendMan wrote: »
    What is this "problem" I have with my brother???

    I just don't want to know about his personal sexual life. Not because he is gay specifically. If he was into mad stuff (let's say water sports with a women) then I wouldn't want him talking about it. And I wouldn't want it in my property.

    But it seems that I have to pander and encourage gay men's sexual indulgences to not be labelled a bigot. That's a bit harsh, IMO, that's my main point really. Don't think I am an awful person.


    So, just to clarify, you worry about what people get up to in the sack - regardless of sexual orientation - and based on that, you wouldn't let them stay in property you owned?


  • #385
    Zhane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Zhane


    HardenendMan wrote: »
    What is this "problem" I have with my brother???

    I just don't want to know about his personal sexual life. Not because he is gay specifically. If he was into mad stuff (let's say water sports with a women) then I wouldn't want him talking about it. And I wouldn't want it in my property.

    But it seems that I have to pander and encourage gay men's sexual indulgences to not be labelled a bigot. That's a bit harsh, IMO, that's my main point really. Don't think I am an awful person.

    You're problem with your brother is that he has sex with a man.

    To be honest, you really shouldn't be enquiring into anybodies sex life. What goes on behind that door is none of your business.

    I think you are looking for excuses to have a problem if I'm honest. I wonder would he let you stay in his house, seeing as he has a problem with who/how you have sex with. It is your home and you are perfectly entitled to have whoever you want stay there, but your reasoning is both unfair and bigoted.


  • #386
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    reprise wrote: »
    You are not being called a bigot or a phobic for simply that sentiment. HardenendMan is.

    That is because I don't think anybody should be discriminated against because I don't like thinking about them having sex.


  • #387
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,941 ✭✭✭20Cent


    HardenendMan wrote: »
    Took it further how? By being honest?

    Answer honestly - based on what I posted - do you think I am a homophobe?

    Dunno. Seems weird being so interested in others sex lives though.


  • #388
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Zhane wrote: »
    You're problem with your brother is that he has sex with a man.

    To be honest, you really shouldn't be enquiring into anybodies sex life. What goes on behind that door is none of your business.

    I think you are looking for excuses to have a problem if I'm honest. I wonder would he let you stay in his house, seeing as he has a problem with who/how you have sex with. It is your home and you are perfectly entitled to have whoever you want stay there, but your reasoning is both unfair and bigoted.

    Did you miss the part where he categorically stated that he would be no happier to have someone into water sports?


  • #389
    Zhane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Zhane


    reprise wrote: »
    Did you miss the part where he categorically stated that he would be no happier to have someone into water sports?

    to be honest each to their own. As long as they cleaned up after themselves, let them at it.


  • #390
    HardenendMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭HardenendMan


    Nodin wrote: »
    So, just to clarify, you worry about what people get up to in the sack - regardless of sexual orientation - and based on that, you wouldn't let them stay in property you owned?

    Kind of yes. I cannot be sure that a man/women are into mad stuff that I would find disgusting - I have no evidence. But I know two men are into stuff that makes me cringe - sorry!
    Zhane wrote: »
    You're problem with your brother is that he has sex with a man.

    To be honest, you really shouldn't be enquiring into anybodies sex life. What goes on behind that door is none of your business.

    I think you are looking for excuses to have a problem if I'm honest. I wonder would he let you stay in his house, seeing as he has a problem with who/how you have sex with. It is your home and you are perfectly entitled to have whoever you want stay there, but your reasoning is both unfair and bigoted.

    Its not a problem I have with my brother. Thats for him to decide, not you.

    I am not looking for excuses - just replying to the subject at hand. This does not consume my life I assure you.

    If my reasoning is unfair then I accept that. I have self awareness and self doubt. Some people should learn that before labelling me a bigot.


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  • #391
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    Zhane wrote: »
    to be honest each to their own. As long as they cleaned up after themselves, let them at it.

    What if they don't?


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