No gays allowed

TheMilkyPirate

Me and the GF are looking for a villa in the canaries atm for a holiday in April, Trawling through the usual sites including owners-direct when I stumbled upon this gem today:

http://www.ownersdirect.co.uk/accommodation/p8054482

Nice villa nothing to untoward until you get to the notes on accommodation where it states

"Please do not smoke within any rooms in the villa ash trays are provided outside at the patio areas. families and couples only, no same sex couples"

Aside from being highly immoral is this legal?

The Backwards Man

It would seem they are also discriminating against those in platonic relationships.

wendell borton

Smoking's a dirty habit all right.:D

ygolometsipe

ok butt, can I cum?

mikeym

Someone is homophobic.

Ray Palmer

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Aside from being highly immoral is this legal?

Illegal in Ireland for sure and I would say also in Spain as they are probably members of the European Court of Human Rights

scudzilla

Can't see the problem with this, it's their home, their choice. Maybe religious grounds are the reason.

Same as the cake shop up North really, but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

reprise

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Aside from being highly immoral is this legal?

Whatever about legality, morality is far from objective.

maameeo

i wouldnt stay in a place that didnt accept a couple due to gender, its against my non religion.

bb1234567

Pathetic.

eviltwin

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't see the problem with this, it's their home, their choice. Maybe religious grounds are the reason.

Same as the cake shop up North really, but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

Their house, their rules. As a parent I wouldn't get offended by a villa with a 'no kid's' policy. You have to wonder what the problem is though.

Cookie_Monster

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't see the problem with this, it's their home, their choice. Maybe religious grounds are the reason.

Same as the cake shop up North really, but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

Yes and no. If they said no blacks / Irish / Asian instead, do you think that would be ok?

Surely you just book it as two individual guys / girls to get around it anyway?

efb

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't see the problem with this, it's their home, their choice. Maybe religious grounds are the reason.

Same as the cake shop up North really, but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

when you run a business, laws come into play...

bjork

Awful discrimination


Here's more I found

"Exclusively gay resort"
"Adults only"
"Men only"


http://www.travelgayeurope.com/gran-canaria-gay-hotels/


Hound them out of buisness

TheMilkyPirate

eviltwin wrote: »

Their house, their rules. As a parent I wouldn't get offended by a villa with a 'no kid's' policy. You have to wonder what the problem is though.

Why would you it's perfectly understandable, Kids draw on walls; break things. Gays however are the same as any other couple and it's nothing but pure discrimination to not allow them in your villa because of their sexual orientation.

bjork

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Why would you it's perfectly understandable, Kids draw on walls; break things. Gays however are the same as any other couple and it's nothing but pure discrimination to not allow them in your villa because of their sexual orientation.

How about "Men only"?

Do women draw on walls too?

El Weirdo

scudzilla wrote: »

... i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

Eoin O'Duffy's been dead for years.

eviltwin

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Why would you it's perfectly understandable, Kids draw on walls; break things. Gays however are the same as any other couple and it's nothing but pure discrimination to not allow them in your villa because of their sexual orientation.

It's their home. I don't agree with them but if they have issues with it that's their right to refuse it.

TheMilkyPirate

eviltwin wrote: »

It's their home. I don't agree with them but if they have issues with it that's their right to refuse it.

So people in the states had a right to refuse to serve black people make them use separate bathrooms not partake in sports and not enter certain schools?

It was their right so we should have just let them at it. The world doesn't need to move forward or anything.

Venus In Furs

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

So people in the states had a right to refuse to serve black people make them use separate bathrooms not partake in sports and not enter certain schools?

That was state policy though, this is a private enterprise. I don't know though - could be a bit of a legal grey area.

But even though it's their home and so on and so forth, people can still criticise the policy.

eviltwin

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

So people in the states had a right to refuse to serve black people make them use separate bathrooms not partake in sports and not enter certain schools?

It was their right so we should have just let them at it. The world doesn't need to move forward or anything.

That's a business, totally different to your home where it's not a crime to refuse entry to people.

bb1234567

eviltwin wrote: »

Their house, their rules. As a parent I wouldn't get offended by a villa with a 'no kid's' policy. You have to wonder what the problem is though.

Theres reasons for not wanting kids, i.e.. breaking valuables..
Whats the reason for no gays? The only one is bigotry

reprise

bb1234567 wrote: »

Theres reasons for not wanting kids, i.e.. breaking valuables..
Whats the reason for no gays? The only one is bigotry

And this one isn't?

http://www.travelgayeurope.com/gran-canaria-gay-hotels/

Do explain.

OneArt

I think this one is obvious.

Gays will see past the cheap furniture and lazy interior design. Then they'll go on Yelp and that's the end of their little money maker.

eviltwin

reprise wrote: »

And this one isn't?

http://www.travelgayeurope.com/gran-canaria-gay-hotels/

Do explain.

Gay friendly doesn't mean gay only

shruikan2553

reprise wrote: »

And this one isn't?

http://www.travelgayeurope.com/gran-canaria-gay-hotels/

Do explain.

The town’s gay (straight-friendly) hotels offer excellent value for money.

At least read what you link.

eviltwin

bb1234567 wrote: »

Theres reasons for not wanting kids, i.e.. breaking valuables..
Whats the reason for no gays? The only one is bigotry

It is bigotry and I wouldn't book this villa for my holiday in light of that but I believe people should be free to decide who stays in their home.

efb

eviltwin wrote: »

It is bigotry and I wouldn't book this villa for my holiday in light of that but I believe people should be free to decide who stays in their home.

Then they shouldn't use it as a business

bjork

shruikan2553 wrote: »

At least read what you link.

If you read past the first ad on the link, there are others

"Exclusively gay"

"Men Only"

shruikan2553

bjork wrote: »

If you read past the first ad on the link, there are others

"Exclusively gay"

"Men Only"

So they are sexist.

You arent going to have to suck a cock to get in

eviltwin

efb wrote: »

Then they shouldn't use it as a business

They probably shouldn't but they are so they can accept who they want

The_Valeyard

eviltwin wrote: »

Their house, their rules. As a parent I wouldn't get offended by a villa with a 'no kid's' policy. You have to wonder what the problem is though.

These are the hotels and villas I book, no offense to parents but when I go away, I do not want the shouting, screaming and running around of little kids all over the place. Nice quiet, chilled out. aaaaahhhhh, holidays mmmmmmm

reprise

shruikan2553 wrote: »

So they are sexist.

You arent going to have to suck a cock to get in

Actually, the adults were discussing whether it was bigoted.

Kiwi in IE

I just wrote a review! The moderation team have to approve it so I suspect it will not be published, but I informed then that not only would I not rent the house, but nor would I use a website that accepts homophobic homeowners advertising their prejudice to book my holiday.

efb

eviltwin wrote: »

They probably shouldn't but they are so they can accept who they want

No, that's not how business works

reprise

efb wrote: »

No, that's not how business works

You'd be surprised.

Tugboats

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I just wrote a review! The moderation team have to approve it so I suspect it will not be published, but I informed then that not only would I not rent the house, but nor would I use a website that accepts homophobic homeowners advertising their prejudice.

You wrote a review on a villa you never stayed in?

The_Valeyard

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I just wrote a review! The moderation team have to approve it so I suspect it will not be published, but I informed then that not only would I not rent the house, but nor would I use a website that accepts homophobic homeowners advertising their prejudice to book my holiday.

How can you review a place you never went to!! Bit harsh now. This is why I cant trust trip adviser, etc

efb

reprise wrote: »

You'd be surprised.

No. That's the law. You must operate within the law. (unless you are HSBC)

reprise

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I just wrote a review! The moderation team have to approve it so I suspect it will not be published, but I informed then that not only would I not rent the house, but nor would I use a website that accepts homophobic homeowners advertising their prejudice to book my holiday.

While you're on a roll:

http://www.travelgayeurope.com/gran-canaria-gay-hotels/

Venus In Furs

reprise wrote: »

While you're on a roll:

http://www.travelgayeurope.com/gran-canaria-gay-hotels/

But it says they're "hetero friendly". As already said, "Gay friendly" does not automatically mean "Gay only".

reprise

efb wrote: »

No. That's the law. You must operate within the law. (unless you are HSBC)

You're faith in the law over human discretion is touching.

reprise

Venus In Furs wrote: »

But it says they're "hetero friendly". As already said, "Gay friendly" does not automatically mean "Gay only".

http://ajaxsearch.partners.agoda.com/europe/spain/gran_canaria/bungalows_nayra_gay_men_only.html?cid=1686477&urltogo=http://ajaxsearch.partners.agoda.com/europe/spain/gran_canaria/bungalows_nayra_gay_men_only.html&backlink=http://www.travelgayeurope.com&header=http://www.travelgayeurope.com/wp-content/themes/tge/agdhead.html&cklg=1

eviltwin

efb wrote: »

No. That's the law. You must operate within the law. (unless you are HSBC)

I'd imagine things like this are considered private arrangements rather than a business transaction so they can get away with what they want. I'm more surprised at the company allowing it up tbh.

Kiwi in IE

Tugboats wrote: »

You wrote a review on a villa you never stayed in?

The_Valeyard wrote: »

How can you review a place you never went to!! Bit harsh now. This is why I cant trust trip adviser, etc

It won't be published, has to go through moderation and I didn't pretend I had stated there. I didn't say anything about the house just that I would not use house, nor will I be using website to book my holiday since they allow bigotry and that I will put it on face book so none of my friends, friends friends etc will be staying there either. Just letting moderation know that bigotry could be very bad for business

hfallada

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't see the problem with this, it's their home, their choice. Maybe religious grounds are the reason.

Same as the cake shop up North really, but i suppose the gay brigade will be all over this too

Would it be OK, if they said no black couples? Or no interracial couples, because they are from the deep south and its against their cultural values?

Religion is a choice. Being gay isnt. Why should we pick and choose what discrimination is?

Kiwi in IE

reprise wrote: »

While you're on a roll:

http://www.travelgayeurope.com/gran-canaria-gay-hotels/

Thanks for that. Some of those places look great. And we won't be discriminated against for being straight.

Tugboats

On a serious note what are the issues that some accommodations have with gay couples? Obviously with a male couple the concern surrounds the high probability of Anal sex and the resulting sh!t on the bedsheets.

osarusan

Not all discrimination is illegal.

I would think that the situation in the OP is illegal, but the 'gay only' resorts are not.

bjork

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Thanks for that. Some of those places look great.

but they're sexist bigots
No?

reprise

osarusan wrote: »

Not all discrimination is illegal.

I would think that the situation in the OP is illegal, but the 'gay only' resorts are not.

Why?