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Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Yes because he is useless and past it. Think how Rangers fans feel having to watch that crap every week
    Are you honestly going to pretend like he hasn't made an entire career out of this sort of thuggery? He is worse than Ian Black, a player you would have readily admitted to being a scumbag while he was at Hearts.

    Seems like every week the old boys club in the media studios are having to make excuses for McCulloch stamping on, kicking or elbowing somebody. How often is he actually punished for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Don't pretend you're all clued up about King. What happened between him and SARS is there for everyone to see, King has been very open about it and the sheer fact that at this moment the South African government is one of his biggest clients should say enough about how he is viewed there.

    King made a mistake, he paid for it and has refused the chance to fight the verdict after it came to light that several SARS investigators may or may not have used unlawfucl practices to spy on government officials and business men, including King.
    He and the SA government seem to be on fine footing again, and that's good enough for me and most of the Rangers fans.

    You can play your 'Lol they so stupid, they keep falling for it' act but you know what ? Nobody cares.

    I expect the 'head in sand loyal' comments ;)

    You do realise that SARS called King a "glib and shameless liar" don't you?

    He didn't fight any verdict because he admitted to wrongdoing, 41 counts of it according to King himself. Throwing mud at SARS won't wash when King himself is admitting his own wrongdoing.

    As late as August 2013 King (and his family) still hasn't brought their tax affairs up to date in SA, is it up to date now or is King still in negotiations?

    He is just another 'spiv'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    You do realise that SARS called King a "glib and shameless liar" don't you?

    He didn't fight any verdict because he admitted to wrongdoing, 41 counts of it according to King himself. Throwing mud at SARS won't wash when King himself is admitting his own wrongdoing.

    As late as August 2013 King (and his family) still hasn't brought their tax affairs up to date in SA, is it up to date now or is King still in negotiations?

    He is just another 'spiv'.

    Did they ? Maybe you can quote them on that again, I must have missed it.

    And who is 'throwing mud at SARS' ? Unless you think stuff like this is 'mud slinging' ?
    Unless pointing out that SARS are investigating a covert unit who may or may not have used unlawful methods is 'mud slinging' too ? Because that's fact.

    Do you think SARS would allow him to be a director on the board of a company on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange if he hasn't resolved his differences with them ?

    Again, because you seem to be unable to understand simple stuff: King admitted he was wrong, he has been very open about what happened, the South African government and SARS seem more than satisfied with how it was resolved and he is free to conduct his business. The only ones who seem to have a big issue with it seem to be Celtic fans.

    I wonder why. I doubt it's to do with a genuine worry for Rangers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Did they ? Maybe you can quote them on that again, I must have missed it.
    For your convenience: http://www.iol.co.za/business/news/tax-court-labels-king-shameless-glib-liar-1.1027561


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Did they ? Maybe you can quote them on that again, I must have missed it.

    And who is 'throwing mud at SARS' ? Unless you think stuff like this is 'mud slinging' ?
    Unless pointing out that SARS are investigating a covert unit who may or may not have used unlawful methods is 'mud slinging' too ? Because that's fact.

    Do you think SARS would allow him to be a director on the board of a company on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange if he hasn't resolved his differences with them ?

    Again, because you seem to be unable to understand simple stuff: King admitted he was wrong, he has been very open about what happened, the South African government and SARS seem more than satisfied with how it was resolved and he is free to conduct his business. The only ones who seem to have a big issue with it seem to be Celtic fans.

    I wonder why. I doubt it's to do with a genuine worry for Rangers.

    Your mudslinging against SARS is ''whataboutary" at its finest as it doesn't really matter in this case as King has ADMITTED to 41 counts of tax evasion, he is a criminal, he admits he's a criminal, and as late as August 2013 he admitted that his tax affairs and the tax affairs of his family had NOT been brought up to date in South Africa.

    You should read the joint statement between SARS and Dave 'glib and shameless liar" King.

    http://www.sars.gov.za/Media/MediaReleases/Pages/29-August-2013---Joint-Media-Statement-–-Settlement-between-the-State-and-Mr-DC-King.aspx

    ​JOINT MEDIA STATEMENT – SETTLEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE AND MR DC KING

    PRETORIA, 29 August 2013 – The South African Revenue Service (SARS) confirms that a settlement agreement was reached between Mr Dave King and the State.
    This settlement was achieved following submissions made to SARS by Mr King and entities associated with him. The governance and oversight committee in SARS found that the submissions that were made met the requirements of the applicable tax legislation. HSBC, which acts as trustee on behalf of Mr King and the associated entities, as well as Mr King in his personal capacity and members of his family, were all signatories to the settlement agreement. Other relevant state institutions were also parties to the overall settlement.

    Mr King has conceded his tax debt and has agreed to a payment of R 706. 7 million to SARS in respect of his personal income tax and the tax liability of Ben Nevis, a King trust company managed out of Guernsey. The fraud charges against Mr King were not pursued by the State and Mr King accepted liability in respect of 41 lesser counts of contravening Section 75 of the Income Tax Act, including the failure to disclose information and the failure to provide correct information about incomes earned over a number of years.

    Today Mr King appeared before the Palmridge Regional Court and entered into a plea and sentencing agreement to this effect with the NPA. Mr King has to pay a fine totalling R 3.208 million (R 80 000 per count) or 24 months imprisonment. In addition, he was ordered to pay an amount of R 8.75 million towards the Criminal Asset Recovery Asset Fund via the Asset Forfeiture Unit.

    In response to the settlement agreement, Mr King stated: “When this tax dispute arose many years ago I took a conscious decision not to cooperate with the authorities. That was a mistake. I regret not engaging with the State sooner as I have found them to be extremely firm but fair in their dealings with me once I fully engaged with them. I accept the fact that I have been non-compliant in the past and will rectify this.”

    SARS welcomes the finalisation of the matter and the settlement. The outcome demonstrates that SARS remains approachable to any taxpayer who wants to resolve a tax dispute in a bona fide manner, even when formal processes of litigation are before the courts, Mr Gene Ravele, the SARS Chief Officer for Tax and Customs Enforcement Investigations, said.

    “SARS believes this settlement is in the interest of the fiscus and in the interest of justice. This brings to an end a period of protracted litigation. SARS appreciates that Mr King has accepted responsibility for his tax position and the message he has communicated to taxpayers who may find themselves in a similar position - to rather engage SARS and seek resolution to a tax dispute rather than resort to litigation. This matter demonstrates the level of commitment SARS has to executing its statutory duty, regardless of the time and cost that complex tax disputes may require to reach finality. Taxpayers and the public in general should expect no less of SARS,” said Mr Ravele.

    Mr King further said: “Part of the agreement is that my family and I will be filing all outstanding tax returns to ensure that we become fully compliant. My experience should serve as an example to taxpayers who find themselves in a similar position with SARS - rather seek early resolution and cooperate with SARS when asked by them to explain your tax affairs. I am delighted to finally put this behind me and to be able to actively resume my business career.”

    ENDS.

    Page 65 of the following link refers to Dave King as 'a glib and shameless liar' - http://www.sars.gov.za/AllDocs/LegalDoclib/Judgments/LAPD-DRJ-TC-2010-05%20-%20TCIT11038%206%20October%202010.pdf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Your mudslinging against SARS is ''whataboutary" at its finest as it doesn't really matter in this case as King has ADMITTED to 41 counts of tax evasion, he is a criminal, he admits he's a criminal, and as late as August 2013 he admitted that his tax affairs and the tax affairs of his family had NOT been brought up to date in South Africa.

    You should read the joint statement between SARS and Dave 'glib and shameless liar" King.

    http://www.sars.gov.za/Media/MediaReleases/Pages/29-August-2013---Joint-Media-Statement-–-Settlement-between-the-State-and-Mr-DC-King.aspx

    ​JOINT MEDIA STATEMENT – SETTLEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE AND MR DC KING

    PRETORIA, 29 August 2013 – The South African Revenue Service (SARS) confirms that a settlement agreement was reached between Mr Dave King and the State.
    This settlement was achieved following submissions made to SARS by Mr King and entities associated with him. The governance and oversight committee in SARS found that the submissions that were made met the requirements of the applicable tax legislation. HSBC, which acts as trustee on behalf of Mr King and the associated entities, as well as Mr King in his personal capacity and members of his family, were all signatories to the settlement agreement. Other relevant state institutions were also parties to the overall settlement.

    Mr King has conceded his tax debt and has agreed to a payment of R 706. 7 million to SARS in respect of his personal income tax and the tax liability of Ben Nevis, a King trust company managed out of Guernsey. The fraud charges against Mr King were not pursued by the State and Mr King accepted liability in respect of 41 lesser counts of contravening Section 75 of the Income Tax Act, including the failure to disclose information and the failure to provide correct information about incomes earned over a number of years.

    Today Mr King appeared before the Palmridge Regional Court and entered into a plea and sentencing agreement to this effect with the NPA. Mr King has to pay a fine totalling R 3.208 million (R 80 000 per count) or 24 months imprisonment. In addition, he was ordered to pay an amount of R 8.75 million towards the Criminal Asset Recovery Asset Fund via the Asset Forfeiture Unit.

    In response to the settlement agreement, Mr King stated: “When this tax dispute arose many years ago I took a conscious decision not to cooperate with the authorities. That was a mistake. I regret not engaging with the State sooner as I have found them to be extremely firm but fair in their dealings with me once I fully engaged with them. I accept the fact that I have been non-compliant in the past and will rectify this.”

    SARS welcomes the finalisation of the matter and the settlement. The outcome demonstrates that SARS remains approachable to any taxpayer who wants to resolve a tax dispute in a bona fide manner, even when formal processes of litigation are before the courts, Mr Gene Ravele, the SARS Chief Officer for Tax and Customs Enforcement Investigations, said.

    “SARS believes this settlement is in the interest of the fiscus and in the interest of justice. This brings to an end a period of protracted litigation. SARS appreciates that Mr King has accepted responsibility for his tax position and the message he has communicated to taxpayers who may find themselves in a similar position - to rather engage SARS and seek resolution to a tax dispute rather than resort to litigation. This matter demonstrates the level of commitment SARS has to executing its statutory duty, regardless of the time and cost that complex tax disputes may require to reach finality. Taxpayers and the public in general should expect no less of SARS,” said Mr Ravele.

    Mr King further said: “Part of the agreement is that my family and I will be filing all outstanding tax returns to ensure that we become fully compliant. My experience should serve as an example to taxpayers who find themselves in a similar position with SARS - rather seek early resolution and cooperate with SARS when asked by them to explain your tax affairs. I am delighted to finally put this behind me and to be able to actively resume my business career.”

    ENDS.

    Page 65 of the following link refers to Dave King as 'a glib and shameless liar' - http://www.sars.gov.za/AllDocs/LegalDoclib/Judgments/LAPD-DRJ-TC-2010-05%20-%20TCIT11038%206%20October%202010.pdf

    You clearly either won't or can't read, so I'll repeat it one more time and if you still want to moan about it then go ahead, but I won't spend any more time on you:

    SARS is under investigation for unlawful spying on politicians and business people, including Dave King.
    King has already stated that even if it is found to be true he won't try to have his verdict overturned or seek any other legal action, since he feels he was treated firm but fairly by them. The only reason I brought that up is to show that in my opinion King completely accepts his punishment and both he and the SA government have moved on from it.

    Care to point out what exactly is 'mud slinging' about stating a fact ?

    As for Intifada: Should I put a smiley with it next time ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    As for Intifada: Should I put a smiley with it next time ?
    With the amount of denial of clear facts and evidence in this thread, it would genuinely be a good idea to indicate when you are doing it sarcastically, yeah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    You clearly either won't or can't read, so I'll repeat it one more time and if you still want to moan about it then go ahead, but I won't spend any more time on you:

    SARS is under investigation for unlawful spying on politicians and business people, including Dave King.
    King has already stated that even if it is found to be true he won't try to have his verdict overturned or seek any other legal action, since he feels he was treated firm but fairly by them. The only reason I brought that up is to show that in my opinion King completely accepts his punishment and both he and the SA government have moved on from it.

    Care to point out what exactly is 'mud slinging' about stating a fact ?

    As for Intifada: Should I put a smiley with it next time ?

    Why are you so intent on arguing a side issue rather than the main one? Dave King has put his hands up and plead guilty to 41 counts of being a criminal.

    You can jump up and down and point at SARS as much as you like but that doesn't change the fact that King is a "glib and shameless liar" and should not pass any "fit and proper" test as he has admitted to 41 breaches of law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    I honestly can't understand your logic Jelle.

    King is a convicted fraudster. Pleading guilty and paying his fine doesn't change that, it confirms it. his status as a charlatan/fraudster/convict is indisputable.

    Of course I'm not pointing this out due to a concern for Rangers, I'm doing it so I can laugh and say I told you so. Most Rangers fans I've encountered are objective at this stage (I won't be laughing at them) but some still insist on backing the chancers who use the right rhetoric (more vociferously if Celtic fans point out the obvious) I will have a good laugh at their expense.

    King will probably get in, he will probably do the same as the other fraudsters have done. We will probably have this debate again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    I honestly can't understand your logic Jelle.

    King is a convicted fraudster. Pleading guilty and paying his fine doesn't change that, it confirms it. his status as a charlatan/fraudster/convict is indisputable.

    Of course I'm not pointing this out due to a concern for Rangers, I'm doing it so I can laugh and say I told you so. Most Rangers fans I've encountered are objective at this stage (I won't be laughing at them) but some still insist on backing the chancers who use the right rhetoric (more vociferously if Celtic fans point out the obvious) I will have a good laugh at their expense.

    King will probably get in, he will probably do the same as the other fraudsters have done. We will probably have this debate again.

    I disagree there, despite his issues in SA he has proven to be a fan of the club as opposed to the other charlatans who have passed since Murray. I do trust him to try and do what's best for the club. Whether that will work out in the long run remains to be seen, he is talking about massive investment in the stadium and the team.
    I just hope he takes the sensible route like for example Hearts have done, and not copy Murray's actions.

    And if the SFA and AIM really see him as a problem he won't be involved in actually running the club, that's pretty obvious.

    They way some of you keep going on about it makes it look like nobody is allowed to make mistakes and if they do then it should haunt them forever.

    He paid his fines, this has been accepted by all parties involved and for all of them that is the end of it. Ultimately that is all that matters, despite all the ramblings about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    You clearly either won't or can't read, so I'll repeat it one more time and if you still want to moan about it then go ahead, but I won't spend any more time on you:

    SARS is under investigation for unlawful spying on politicians and business people, including Dave King.
    King has already stated that even if it is found to be true he won't try to have his verdict overturned or seek any other legal action, since he feels he was treated firm but fairly by them. The only reason I brought that up is to show that in my opinion King completely accepts his punishment and both he and the SA government have moved on from it.

    Care to point out what exactly is 'mud slinging' about stating a fact ?

    As for Intifada: Should I put a smiley with it next time ?

    So King isn't a spiv because the methods used to obtain the truth maybe questionable? The truth should be ignored because of this?

    When are you going to use the chewbacca defense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    So King isn't a spiv because the methods used to obtain the truth maybe questionable? The truth should be ignored because of this?

    When are you going to use the chewbacca defense?

    No use in repeating myself if you can't read what I already said several times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    No use in repeating myself if you can't read what I already said several times.

    I read what you said. I wish I didnt bother tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    No use in repeating myself if you can't read what I already said several times.

    So it's a case of "'Spivs Out!', except for you Mr King, you're a spiv we want in, you're different. We want to chase the crooks and embezzlers out of our club, except you Mr King, you're a crook and embezzler we want in our club, you're different. Who cares that Mr King has had ample opportunity over the last few years to save the club and refused to do so, this time it's different."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Dempsey wrote: »
    I read what you said. I wish I didnt bother tbh

    Very easy solution for that, just do what I'll do from now on and put me on your ignore list.

    No use talking to you anyway, it'll keep this thread a lot cleaner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    RANGERS have today been informed that the Millennium Gloucester Hotel & Conference Centre which was the intimated venue for the Club’s EGM on Wednesday 4 March 2015 is no longer available.

    The hotel management at the Millennium Gloucester have taken advice from different quarters and concluded that the EGM cannot be managed without significant disruption to guests and neighbours.
    The hotel felt it necessary to take this position after receiving numerous complaints and false information from individuals purporting to be shareholders.
    The Board are concerned the situation was exacerbated by irresponsible and inaccurate media coverage.

    An alternative venue is currently being sought in the London area and will be announced as soon as possible.
    The Board apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused shareholders due to matters out with their control.

    Load of crap.

    They're just trying to stall.

    And it seems Keith Jackson is getting a bit too close to the truth:
    THE Daily Record has tonight been BANNED by the Rangers board.

    Our paper was this evening sent an email and fax by under-fire chief executive Derek Llambias that told us we are not welcome at Ibrox or Murray Park for matches and press conferences.

    The message failed to detail any reasons for the move that has echoes of our sister paper the Chronicle being banned from Newcastle United.

    The move comes after our top team – headed by chief football writer Keith Jackson - delivered a series of exclusives and hard-hitting columns which have have called into question the way the club is being run.

    Llambias wrote: "Following recent reporting by your journalists in the Daily Record, I am writing to inform you that with immediate effect the Daily Record newspaper will banned from attending all Rangers press conferences and games at Ibrox Stadium and Murray Park."

    Despite today's ban, we will continue to write the truth. Fans will still be able to read about their team – despite us not being welcome.

    We will continue to report the ongoing crisis on and off the park without fear or favour.

    The board face an egm on March 4 where Dave King will attempt to oust the current directors.

    The BBC will no doubt be next, after Chick Young ripped into the board as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Very easy solution for that, just do what I'll do from now on and put me on your ignore list.

    No use talking to you anyway, it'll keep this thread a lot cleaner.

    You're putting yourself on your ignore list? :pac:

    Put me on your ignore list if you like, doesnt make a difference to me. Maybe you should read back what you've posted in the past day. Its ridiculous logic and indefensible really.

    Dave King cares for the club but wouldnt buy Rangers for £1 when it was crying out for someone to do right by the club. How does that fact fit into your thinking of this saviour/spiv?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Very easy solution for that, just do what I'll do from now on and put me on your ignore list.

    No use talking to you anyway, it'll keep this thread a lot cleaner.

    Sand, Buried, Ostrich, Head.

    ...the very reason your club is where it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    It's ludicrous!! Yes he is a convicted criminal, but he's our convicted criminal so all normal business rules shouldn't apply to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    It's ludicrous!! Yes he is a convicted criminal, but he's our convicted criminal so all normal business rules shouldn't apply to him.

    What normal business rules ?

    Oh wait, you mean like this ?
    DAVE KING has been cleared to 'operate on a normal unrestricted basis in the business environment' by the South African taxman following the settlement of his lengthy dispute with the authorities.

    The businessman is edging closer to power at Rangers as he looks to overthrow the under-fire Light Blues board and take a seat at the Ibrox top table alongside Paul Murray and John Gilligan.

    And SportTimes has seen an email from a spokesman for the South African Revenue Service that confirms King is free and able to continue as a company director following the end to proceedings which lasted 11 years.

    The news came as the London hotel earmarked to host the next month's powerdeg general meeting, which could see the former Ibrox director win power, dramatically pulled the plug on the event.

    King agreed a £43.7million settlement with SARS in 2013, but his tax dispute has repeatedly been cited in some quarters as prohibitive in his bid for power at Rangers.

    Last week, he addressed fears that his case could count against him with regulators in the City and the Scottish FA, whose 'fit and proper' guidelines he will have to meet if he is successful in his bid to take office at Ibrox.

    King is confident of his chances of gaining the relevant approval from the authorities and, in the document seen by SportTimes, SARS have confirmed he is free to serve as a director.

    In the email, the SARS spokesman states: "Following his settlement agreement, which was approved before court, with the South African Revenue Service (SARS) and other government institutions in August 2013, SARS did provide Mr Dave King with a written notice to confirm that the litigation and the tax dispute between Mr King and SARS has been settled in terms of the relevant provisions of the Tax Administration Act, Act 28 of 2013.

    "Mr King was also informed that as far as the legislation carried out by SARS is concerned, Mr King is not disqualified from serving as a director of any company and is able to operate on a normal unrestricted basis in the business environment."

    The beleaguered board confirmed last Friday that the make-or-break General Meeting called for by King will be held on Wednesday, March 4 in London.

    In their release to the Stock Exchange, it was claimed 'there could be a material adverse impact on the Company's listing on AIM' if King was voted on to the board next month.

    And the former Ibrox director has hit out at that statement, which included links to his SARS case and comments from those involved in the proceedings.


    King said: "In its announcement the board again recycled the now-discredited story about my litigation in South Africa, despite knowing that what was stated was irrevocably superseded by subsequent court orders."

    It is not just King who was left dismayed by the market announcement last week, with fans and small shareholders reeling over the detail of the GM call.

    And their anger centred on the choice of a hotel 400 miles away in Kensington to host the GM - with a 500-capacity room booked for the meeting.

    Last night the club announced the plan had been ditched after hotel bosses expressed fears angry fans would "disrupt guests and neighbours".

    But they admitted in a statement that they were still looking for an alternative venue "in the London area".

    Fans fear this could still force the shareholder showdown to be postponed as thousands of them face the prospect of being locked out on a defining day for Rangers.

    King said: "What is truly disappointing, albeit unsurprising, is the board's continued bitterness and antagonism towards the club's shareholders and supporters.

    "Moving the General Meeting to London at greater cost to the club, at greater cost to small shareholders, and at a venue that excludes the majority of shareholders, is simply outrageous by any standard of respect or corporate governance.

    "The board's defiance of its own fans, customers and shareholders is clearly a matter that invokes passion in any Rangers supporter.

    "The fact that the fans continue to demonstrate by vociferous, but peaceful means is a credit to the fans collectively, and to the club as a whole.

    "It is truly humbling to evidence how fans have rallied round the club in this time of need."

    It was also confirmed in Friday's announcement that the Nomad of RIFC plc, WH Ireland, will resign as the company's broker should the King alliance succeed in their bid to topple the board.

    King revealed last week he had already held talks with firms with a view to replacing WH Ireland, who took over from Daniel Stewart when they lost their licence last year.

    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/rangers/dave-king-cleared-by-sars-ahead-of-bid-for-rangers-throne-196837n.118118895

    But I'll reserve judgment until I heard what Spiers has to say about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    How many of the people you label as spivs are disqualified? Does not being disqualified make everything ok?

    Dave King is a convicted fraudster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    What normal business rules ?

    Oh wait, you mean like this ?



    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/rangers/dave-king-cleared-by-sars-ahead-of-bid-for-rangers-throne-196837n.118118895

    But I'll reserve judgment until I heard what Spiers has to say about it.

    No, more like this. SARS have no sway in the UK

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/insmanual/ins45305.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    What normal business rules ?

    Oh wait, you mean like this ?



    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/rangers/dave-king-cleared-by-sars-ahead-of-bid-for-rangers-throne-196837n.118118895

    But I'll reserve judgment until I heard what Spiers has to say about it.

    So basically you want 'Spivs in!'?

    Do you agree that Mr King is a convicted criminal Jelle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    McCulloch offered 2 match ban.

    Should offer to make it double that instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    McCulloch offered 2 match ban.

    Should offer to make it double that instead.

    Is there a statute of limitations on elbows and stamps? Could rack up a triple figure suspension!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    So basically you want 'Spivs in!'?

    Do you agree that Mr King is a convicted criminal Jelle?

    Jelle,

    Just to be clear... do you agree that Mr King is a convicted criminal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Jelle,

    Just to be clear... do you agree that Mr King is a convicted criminal?

    He's breezed over my post with HRMCs rules that prohibit Dave King from being on the Rangers board after all of his arguing about how he would be allowed because SARS think he's a grand lad, so I wouldn't be holding my breath for an answer!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    He's breezed over my post with HRMCs rules that prohibit Dave King from being on the Rangers board after all of his arguing about how he would be allowed because SARS think he's a grand lad, so I wouldn't be holding my breath for an answer!!

    He told me he had me on ignore but he keeps replying to my posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    2 game ban confirmed for McCulloch, 2 game ban for Simonsen too for betting on 55 games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    2 game ban confirmed for McCulloch, 2 game ban for Simonsen too for betting on 55 games.

    Should have been ten games for them both


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