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Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    We're lacking running power today against a team with a mass defence and a ref very slow to give us frees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Tyrone have everyone behind the ball and mayo cant seem to break them down kicking from crazy positions. Hopefully improve in second half


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Should that goal have stood?

    From the initial long ball its definitely not a square ball but after the ball broke O'Connor was in the square before the ball was kicked against the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Was cillian o Connor just booked for getting fouled off the ball twice?

    The 2 yellow cards rule in the gaa is the most pathetic aspect of the General officiating and that's saying something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Kinsella is awful today. Not giving us any scoreable frees. Allowed Tyrone men dive on ball/slide tackle the ball.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Shocking wides from Mayo today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    Kinsella is awful today. Not giving us any scoreable frees. Allowed Tyrone men dive on ball/slide tackle the ball.

    What game were you watching?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    Tyrone rock solid in defence. Frustrated us from the get go. Poor shot selection and some of the younger players foregoing shots and passing the ball off. Fitness probably wasn't up to it, you need runners all over the field if you're going to break down that kind of defence. 1-3 from play won't win you any games.

    Still, I think Tyrone have beaten us 5 games in a row in the league. Best to have these kind of questions asked of us at this stage. Will need some serious work done in training as Monaghan and Donegal will serve up similar tactics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,393 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    No answer to the massed defense.

    Tyrone had everyone inside their 40 regularly when Mayo were on the ball.

    Persisted with short kick out even though it allowed Tyrone to filter back.

    They were unlucky also, Conroy's shot cleared off the line early, and Aidan's rasper of s shot was straight at Morgan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Tyrone rock solid in defence. Frustrated us from the get go. Poor shot selection and some of the younger players foregoing shots and passing the ball off. Fitness probably wasn't up to it, you need runners all over the field if you're going to break down that kind of defence. 1-3 from play won't win you any games.

    Still, I think Tyrone have beaten us 5 games in a row in the league. Best to have these kind of questions asked of us at this stage. Will need some serious work done in training as Monaghan and Donegal will serve up similar tactics.

    Big men needed to play beside the square to combat them tactics. AOS or Barry Moran needed in there beside Freeman to win high ball or to break it down.

    We were clueless playing side way passes all game and trying to walk it in. That being said, if the shooting was anyway decent we probably would have won it.
    Very poor game overall. A much needed break to regroup before Monaghan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Mayo the poorest of a poor game will need to pick stronger teams for remaining games as the strength in depth is not good as some seem to think and few of the young lads are not ready for senior step up yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    Awful stuff for the majority of that today. Early reality check for the new management structure. Defence was alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭john mayo 10


    Poor performance today. Very poor shot selection and very little put n on top of the full forward when that was probably the only way we were going to beat a blanket defence bar taking shots from 40 yards out. As for Mr eddie kinsella what a joke. No control on the match what so ever. He was very much in tyrones favour. Must have been chatting to Cormac Reilly. In saying that though we kicked some very poor wides. Our short kick out played into Tyrones hands as it gave them every chance to get 15 players behind the ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    Tyrone rock solid in defence? There would be something wrong if you weren't rock solid with 14 men back there! Worrying for Mayo was how poorly management had them set up. Bad day at the office for Noel & Pat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭Gary Neville


    Should that goal have stood?

    From the initial long ball its definitely not a square ball but after the ball broke O'Connor was in the square before the ball was kicked against the post.

    What's the rule on square ball now ? I thought it only applied for set plays or is it the other way round ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭klairondavis


    What's the rule on square ball now ? I thought it only applied for set plays or is it the other way round ?

    Old rule still applies from frees, 45s and line balls. In open play you cannot be in the square when the ball is kicked. Goal should have been ruled out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Very disappointing day at the office,Tyrone set up much as expected.Extremely hard to break down,we were'nt good enough to take long range scores,move quick ball inside.Some truly awful wides and a mesmerising number of handling errors.

    TBF Tyrone were excellent,perfect response to their defeat last weekend.Precise and clinical in everything they did,the polar opposite of ourselves.

    You can't blame the referee,gaelic football is becoming increasingly difficult to referee.Who'd be referee,we simply were'nt good enough today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Poor performance today. Very poor shot selection and very little put n on top of the full forward when that was probably the only way we were going to beat a blanket defence bar taking shots from 40 yards out. As for Mr eddie kinsella what a joke. No control on the match what so ever. He was very much in tyrones favour. Must have been chatting to Cormac Reilly. In saying that though we kicked some very poor wides. Our short kick out played into Tyrones hands as it gave them every chance to get 15 players behind the ball.

    Think you need to watch the game again, alone in a room, without a baying mob shouting at the referee. Kinsella was ok today, not excellent but not bad either. If anything, decisions were in Mayo's favour. Aidan O'Shea should have been red carded not black. That late tackle was at the upper end of the scale in being extremely dangerous. He also had 2 other late tackles ignored. Very poor display from him once again, even his goal attempt carried little conviction.The Mayo goal was a blatant free out.
    Management had a poor day at the office, just wonder if the same clique of players are dictating again as they did with Horan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭john mayo 10


    washman3 wrote: »
    Think you need to watch the game again, alone in a room, without a baying mob shouting at the referee. Kinsella was ok today, not excellent but not bad either. If anything, decisions were in Mayo's favour. Aidan O'Shea should have been red carded not black. That late tackle was at the upper end of the scale in being extremely dangerous. He also had 2 other late tackles ignored. Very poor display from him once again, even his goal attempt carried little conviction.The Mayo goal was a blatant free out.
    Management had a poor day at the office, just wonder if the same clique of players are dictating again as they did with Horan
    How can you claim Kinsella had a good game. He was never in control of it. A tyrone player picked the ball off the ground right in front of him and he never blew for a free. Another player hand tripped a mayo player. Again no free. I could go on and on. Granted mayo were very poor today but an honest ref shouldnt be to much to ask for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,491 ✭✭✭✭km79


    How can you claim Kinsella had a good game. He was never in control of it. A tyrone player picked the ball off the ground right in front of him and he never blew for a free. Another player hand tripped a mayo player. Again no free. I could go on and on. Granted mayo were very poor today but an honest ref shouldnt be to much to ask for

    the most shocking thing was he could not or did not attempt to keep up with play. rrarely strayed 10 yards from halfway line. he was making big calls from 30/40 yards away. not good enough


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    How can you claim Kinsella had a good game. He was never in control of it. A tyrone player picked the ball off the ground right in front of him and he never blew for a free. Another player hand tripped a mayo player. Again no free. I could go on and on. Granted mayo were very poor today but an honest ref shouldnt be to much to ask for

    Read my post again, I said he was ok, not excellent but not bad either.
    Watch the game again, he wasn't the reason Mayo lost.
    Concentrate on your own players shortcomings rather the referees mistakes, I guarantee you the former will far outweigh the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭john mayo 10


    washman3 wrote: »
    Read my post again, I said he was ok, not excellent but not bad either.
    Watch the game again, he wasn't the reason Mayo lost.
    Concentrate on your own players shortcomings rather the referees mistakes, I guarantee you the former will far outweigh the latter.
    I'm not disputing ur argument. We made some very poor mistakes today. Im just feel that the level of refereeing is very poor nowadays. We will agree to disagree. Lets move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    Big worry at the moment is the form of some of our big players who have high mileage on the clock. Leeroy, Boyler, Aido all seem out of sorts and very leggy. Vaughan was poor at midfield and took the wrong option time and time again. Now I know it's early on in the season so hopefully I am just reading too much into it. All the handling errors would lead me to believe it was a rough week training which is surely counter productive for a team with aspirations of winning the league.

    Today reminded me of the Donegal final. No-one inside to win the dirty ball. How Noel & Pat envisaged this match playing out any different from how it did is very worrying tbh. I cannot see the logic of bringing Sweeney into such a game when space is at a premium. Equally as baffling was bringing Cafferkey on and leaving him isolated in a one-on-one foot race in our half of the field!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    washman3 wrote: »
    Aidan O'Shea should have been red carded not black. That late tackle was at the upper end of the scale in being extremely dangerous.

    How can you say that? AOS had actually jumped before the ball was kicked. Was he expected to do a mid-air piruette to avoid Morgan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    I'm not disputing ur argument. We made some very poor mistakes today. Im just feel that the level of refereeing is very poor nowadays. We will agree to disagree. Lets move on.

    Ya, agree with you there. The standard needs to be far better. Brian Cody made a good point when he said that a referee's biggest task now is appeasing the accessors sitting in the stands ticking boxes for the next referees meeting.
    When 90% of the time all that's needed is common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    one step forward two steps back it seems for mayo football, they were cruel bad today after last weeks display. i have great time for mayo football and they have some of the best to play the game down the years, but i think last years defeat was one to many for this squad, will come out of connacht again but Roscommon will take beating, but as all ireland winners i think they missed that bus the day Donegal beat them in 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    Tyrone rock solid in defence? There would be something wrong if you weren't rock solid with 14 men back there! Worrying for Mayo was how poorly management had them set up. Bad day at the office for Noel & Pat

    well it has won them a few Sam Maguires mayo could take note of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    well it has won them a few Sam Maguires mayo could take note of it.

    Tyrone never won any All-Ireland's with the system they are using these days. My beef is not with Tyrone's set-up, that was predictable. It's with our management team who didn't seem to anticipate it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Tyrone never won any All-Ireland's with the system they are using these days.

    tyrones-defensive-style-in-action-2482003-630x406.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭homeofhurling


    says it all


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