Limerick school apologises for Charlie Hebdo

shruikan2553 wrote: »

You're right. We need to encourage segregation so that we can continue to complain they arent doing enough to integrate. They just need to integrate themselves over there, away from us.

They don't really put much effort into segregating as it is.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I left the horse outside, horse.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

What makes you think Limerick is any different from anywhere else in Ireland? I didn't grow up in Limerick, but I know the place inside out, they don't joke any different to anywhere else in Ireland, you might think you can slag about anything, but that's just among you and your friends. The fact is that you and your friends don't have the place to yourselves any more, and you certainly don't by your own standards get to dictate what goes on in a school environment be it in Limerick, Dublin, Galway or anywhere else. This seems to offend you greatly, which by your own standards means you will have to be packing your suitcases.

Well considering the fact that having lived in Limerick for 24 years in total, I think I know quite well what the limits are. Not just amongst me and my friends, but also strangers who I'd get a laugh with and any of my friends that came here from other countries, regardless of race/religion or any other minority defining property always welcome the slagging and are well able to be up for the craic and know that we aren't trying to insult anyone, just having a laugh.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Nowadays you wouldn't be kicked out of school, and your absence of belief would be respected. Times change maaaan.

Well I wasn't kicked out, I was threatened. I don't think the religious connection to schools has disappeared in the last 10 years maaaaan..

One eyed Jack wrote: »

You understand that the parents sent their child to a multi-denominational school because they were under the impression that their religion would be respected, that all religions and none are respected? That's why they didn't send their child to a Catholic ethos school.

So what about the people who sent their children to the school where freedom of speech is supposedly respected? I'd be confident that those parents would be quite annoyed that this is setting the precedent that the other kids need to tip toe their way around certain aspects of life. Why should they be effectively told to shut up because 1 pupil took offence to a f*cking drawing. Remember, people were murdered in cold blood because of that. This is 2015, not the middle ages.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

The Canadian First Indians have never sworn allegiance to the Queen of England, and I'll bet you won't find too many English speakers in the French Quarter either! You'll find the Irish "diaspora" and British ex-pats in every country though, and they make no attempt to integrate into the countries in which they're located. In fact, the British have quite a reputation for their attempts to invade other countries and turn them into Little Britain. It's one of the reasons why Canada is still a British Commonwealth country.

(someone wasn't paying attention in history class either!)

"Oh really? I didn't know that", I would've said that if I was still 4 years old. I know. I lived there you see and I learn things about the world and the countries I visit/live. For once you are right, the brits/irish did do that, but you know what? That has nothing to do with the fact that I moved there, whilst Canada is at peace from a civil perspective and I tried my best to do as they do. So, in short, your point is pointless.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Seems you've yet to master that social skill, but I assume you're not intellectually disabled, just ignorant.

I'm ignorant because I have an opinion on the matter and because it would affect me directly? Should I just shut my mouth and say nothing if something I've been used to all the time suddenly changes because certain immigrants don't want to integrate into our society? What do you want to happen? Ethnically separated areas? That'll be worse, take a look at the UK pal. Multiculturalism is fine, but only if it means you integrate into the society that has given you the opportunity to become a part of it.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Ohh the irony. If we were still expected to "live as we do", you'd have been taken out in the hallway and given a few belts of a hurley to keep you in line for your refusal to participate in religion classes. Thankfully we don't do that any more either.

How is it ironic? I'm talking about not taking offence to a drawing and having the craic, not getting lashed because of religion. Stop going on about insane edge cases.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I was more of a Monty Python man myself, y'know, clever satire as opposed to just flinging horse shìt in people's eyes while languishing under the arrogant veil of ignorance that there would be no retaliation.

Am, you do know the Life of Brian was banned from Ireland don't you? How is that clever satire in terms of the period that was released and trying to push it on the extremely conservative Catholic majority Irish market where you couldn't even buy johnnys or have a child before marriage? I'm sure Irish people living in England shut their mouths because it was an English movie and they lived in England. Charlie Hebdo is a FRENCH publication. They didn't exactly release the f*cking thing in Tehran, Mecca, Istanbul or Islamabad.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I have no time for political correctness. I also have no time for people who think they have a right to behave like ignorant douchebags. This isn't about political correctness or freedom of speech or any of the rest of that nonsense, it's about a teacher in a multi-denominational school, lacking even the slightest bit of cop-on to realise that the cartoons were going to be offensive to some of the children, in a multi-denominational school which claims to respect all faiths and none.

Oh here comes the real irony. You clearly are after political correctness if you are saying we need to tiptoe around certain topics. What if they were in history class and they spoke of WW1 and 2 and also Ireland under British rule and there happened to be an English or German child in the class? Would they have to right to complain because they feel singled out? What if they were in a sex ed class and the child was a devout catholic? What if they were in cooking class and a jewish child attended the pork chop cooking class? There's an infinite amount of things that could offend anyone, it's impossible to get around them all without having a totally PC society. My point is, if they come to a place where their standards are not the norm, then tough ****. Get over it and integrate or don't take offence. Otherwise f*ck off.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

You could apply that same logic to Ireland when you were in school and we were a majority Roman Catholic society, you didn't try to integrate then, did you? Aren't you lucky you don't live in a country where apostasy is punishable by death? If anyone needs to get a grip here, I'd suggest you hold tight on that forelock and hang on for dear life, because Limerick isn't just your city any more.

Yeah I didn't, but the thing is, apostasy isn't punishable by death here. It's a different case. If they are practicing muslims and aren't known as apostates, and don't want to be part of our culture without compromising it, then go to a country that is willing to be PC. Try Canada, they are fairly PC. I will continue to voice my opinion on the matter whenever the topic arises because if you don't like our ways, then tough sh!t.

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Ireland is changing, it's no longer your and Dev's dream of a holy, Gaelic, Catholic nation.

I can even remember my parents saying things like this.

You're really not the free thinking revolutionary radical you think you are. If anything, you are just as shackled and given the vacuity of political correctness, no more original.

non story,
Student brings controversial magazine to school.
Teacher deals with situation as best they can.
One parent is outraged.

Has Bruce Springsteen vs. Croake Park residents started yet?

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

You obviously don't. It's not a Catholic school. It's a secular school.

I obviously don't what?

Agree?

Live in Limerick?

Know the school well?