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31% of the US public believe that humans never evolved

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  • #32
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    AnotherYear wrote: »
    Who cares. Let everyone believe in what they want to believe in as long as they're not harming anyone. What do you want from this thread. For people to say they're thick then b about them. Pointless. Funny thing is they problem think you're crazy for thinking the opposite and I'd tell them the same thing.

    Because they have an influence on which government controls the most powerful country in the world.


  • #33
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Chucken wrote: »
    How is it stupid if you've never been taught anything to contradict it?

    Well a sign of intelligence is actually learning on your own and not relying on what you're taught.


  • #34
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Wang King wrote: »
    Thinking that dinosaurs and humans coexisted is stupidity.
    Not knowing that a year is 365 days and it takes that long for the earth to complete a full revolution of the sun is stupidity.
    Comparing those 2 basic truths to the building of an electronic circuit for a radio receiver is....well . you know

    It was just a basic analogy to your comment. It is uneducated, not stupidity. Try to understand the difference.


  • #35
    Wang King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    Chucken wrote: »
    How is it stupid if you've never been taught anything to contradict it?

    ”let me Google that for you "

    Man's natural curiosity should have given them the answers, or at the very least, the ability to seek out the answers. but some people are too lazy and stupid to think for themselves, they have to be spoonfed every last detail. Sad really


  • #36
    Chucken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Wang King wrote: »
    ”let me Google that for you "

    Man's natural curiosity should have given them the answers, or at the very least, the ability to seek out the answers. but some people are too lazy and stupid to think for themselves, they have to be spoonfed every last detail. Sad really

    How long is it since could you ''google that for me''?
    You know the world was around before Google? It hasnt always been so easy to seek out answers.


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  • #37
    Wang King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    It was just a basic analogy to your comment. It is uneducated, not stupidity. Try to understand the difference.

    No, people are taught about evolution in schools, it is widely available to view in the net, McDonald's produce books to distribute with kids happy meals... If after all that, 25% of Australians chose to believe man and dinosaur coexisted, they are either creationists or stupid...or both


  • #38
    Wang King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    Chucken wrote: »
    How long is it since could you ''google that for me''?
    You know the world was around before Google? It hasnt always been so easy to seek out answers.

    25% of Australians today.
    Books, TV, national geographic channel, loads of places to seek information


  • #39
    Dirty Steve
    Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Dirty Steve


    You callin me a ape son? Do I look like a monkey to you?


  • #40
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    cloud493 wrote: »
    Well I'm a creationist. So it doesn't surprise me.

    Any explanation for this?


  • #41
    wretcheddomain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Mena wrote: »
    I'm more concerned with your missing two!!!

    They're the agnostics. :pac:


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  • #42
    AnotherYear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭AnotherYear


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Because they have an influence on which government controls the most powerful country in the world.

    And the majority who do believe in evolution have a bigger influence.


  • #43
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    What a boring world it would be if every human being had the exact same belief/thought system. In 100 years it could all change again into some other philosophy - belief - system.


  • #44
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Wang King wrote: »
    No, people are taught about evolution in schools, it is widely available to view in the net, McDonald's produce books to distribute with kids happy meals... If after all that, 25% of Australians chose to believe man and dinosaur coexisted, they are either creationists or stupid...or both

    Why are you angry about that ? if those folk want to believe in what they prescribe to in their own philosophy then what is the problem if they are happy with this ?. Why does it bother you so much ?.

    Do you want forced-conformity of humanity to your beliefs ?.
    McDonald's produce books to distribute with kids happy meals.

    Seriously :rolleyes:


  • #45
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    What a boring world it would be if every human being had the exact same belief/thought system. In 100 years it could all change again into some other philosophy - belief - system.

    It would only be boring if conflict, tribalism and bickering are the only things that excite you.


  • #46
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    From my experience of the US school system, we started the day by praying to a flag. I wouldn't really expect much.

    At least the people who go on to work in these areas appear to be mostly having some intelligence.
    You didn't "pray" to thhe flag, you pledged your allegiance to the country.

    Big difference.

    Though I'm not a big fan of the "under God" addition to the Pledge, it had originally been written without it by a liberal in the 1800s with a view to being something that could be shared without reservation by everyone, whether they be believers or not. The pledge would be much better with those words gone.

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  • #47
    AngryHippie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    59%-82% of people on the world believe in a man/woman/elephant/alien/God in the sky whom we are all put here to please and obey.....:eek:
    http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf


  • #48
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    AngryHippie wrote: »
    59%-82% of people on the world believe in a man/woman/elephant/alien/God in the sky whom we are all put here to please and obey.....:eek:
    http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf

    That's, frankly, terrifying to me


  • #49
    Antar Bolaeisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I'm always sceptical of these surveys. My anecdotal experience of Americans is that the ratio of smart to unsmart people is more or less the same as it is everywhere else.

    30% daft to 70% not so daft sounds about right for most countries.


  • #50
    abff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭abff


    AngryHippie wrote: »
    59%-82% of people on the world believe in a man/woman/elephant/alien/God in the sky whom we are all put here to please and obey.....:eek:
    http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf

    Until I looked at that survey, I didn't know that redc was spelled with a c and not sea. Does that make me stupid or just ignorant?


  • #51
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    It doesn't really matter what the 31% believe. Evolution isn't a belief, it's a fact, it happens whether you acknowledge it or not.


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  • #52
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,106 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chucken wrote: »
    How long is it since could you ''google that for me''?
    You know the world was around before Google? It hasnt always been so easy to seek out answers.

    There are thousands of tv channels to choose from and yet millions of people watch 'the 700 club' ...


    But the american media seems to pander to idiocy more than most. U.S. versions of science and nature documentaries have much more vacuous dialogue than the same exact show broadcast by the BBC

    Its why I don't watch U.S netflix

    Ban billionaires



  • #53
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    It may be counter intuitive but you are probably better off when there is a way more stupid people around than yourself.

    How difficult will it really be to subdue them if they get a bit troublesome.

    Just get some dumbass politician or clergyman to tell them something that keeps them chilled.

    Its worked for the Irish establishment for decades.


  • #54
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    It doesn't really matter what the 31% believe. Evolution isn't a belief, it's a fact, it happens whether you acknowledge it or not.

    That is incorrect... it's a fact & theory. A phrase which was used as the title of an article by paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, 'not absolute certainty' but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse (in his words) to withhold provisional assent. But it is still not 100% fact.


  • #55
    R1_Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭R1_Pete


    Wang King wrote: »
    No, people are taught about evolution in schools, it is widely available to view in the net, McDonald's produce books to distribute with kids happy meals... If after all that, 25% of Australians chose to believe man and dinosaur coexisted, they are either creationists or stupid...or both

    Maybe they saw jurrassic park


  • #56
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    cloud493 wrote: »
    Well I'm a creationist. So it doesn't surprise me.

    but you'll believe anything


  • #57
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    coolhull wrote: »
    31% don't believe in evolution? That means 69% do believe..... I'll settle for that

    because thats over 100 million stupid people in a very powerful country, their vote could have effects on americas international affairs and relations with many other countries


  • #58
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,612 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Sure 8 in 10 of them believe in angels so nothing surprises me anymore about that basket case of a country


  • #59
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    AngryHippie wrote: »
    59%-82% of people on the world believe in a man/woman/elephant/alien/God in the sky whom we are all put here to please and obey.....:eek:
    http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf

    Well statistically speaking.... If we ever get to the point where we are scientifically advanced enough to replicate the big back (or whatever happened) we could technically create another universe. Now if we accept that it might be possible to do it, then we would technically some day be the creators of a universe. Now in that universe, in a galaxy, in a solar system a civilisation might evolve on a planet. they could reach a stage of advancement where they would create a universe and so on.... Since it would technically go on for a near infinite number of universes there's no reason to think that if the above was possible we'd be the first universe in the chain.

    So technically it's possible to be rational and yet at the same time be open to the chance that the universe didn't spontaneously come into existence.

    That doesn't in any way even vaguely imply that God exists. I'm actually more likely to think that some bloke in a lab (that i have no evidence for) created the universe rather than a magical mystical being.

    (I've also heard the same scenario explained as creating a virtual reality world. In that VR world, which is a perfect replica of ours, all the people are AI's that don't know they are AI's. they would eventually create a VR with AI's. And you can see where that goes).

    There's absolutely no evidence to believe that the above are actually even slightly possible.


  • #60
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    because thats over 100 million stupid people in a very powerful country,

    It's supposed to be one of the most advanced on the planet.


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  • #61
    cloud493
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Grayson wrote: »
    but you'll believe anything

    No hun xxx


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