31% of the US public believe that humans never evolved

sxt

This wasn't a fox news survey either
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/29/evolution-gm-food-climate-change-us-survey


That is shocking and scary, is it not ?

Chucken

Some of them didn't

TheShockmaster

Not really, 31% of Americans don't add up to s**t, they probably don't vote or own a passport. Why should the civilised world care what they think?

Starscream25

Ignorance is bliss as they say, but really a lot of Americans and people in general for that matter are idiots.

Buford T. Justice XIX

What's even more scary it that 2% of scientists share the view that a god created us.

Do they hand out doctorates to any idiot nowadays?

My name is URL

'Survey sets out to find link between denialism and skepticism'

Experts say 'pick up that can'

coolhull

31% don't believe in evolution? That means 69% do believe..... I'll settle for that

Mr_Muffin

What about the remaining 67% of people? What do they think?

Mena

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

What about the remaining 67% of people? What do they think?

I'm more concerned with your missing two!!!

shruikan2553

From my experience of the US school system, we started the day by praying to a flag. I wouldn't really expect much.

At least the people who go on to work in these areas appear to be mostly having some intelligence.

Peregrine

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

What about the remaining 67% of people? What do they think?

They think the other 2% should have a say in the survey too!

The Backwards Man

I'm always sceptical of these surveys. My anecdotal experience of Americans is that the ratio of smart to unsmart people is more or less the same as it is everywhere else.

cloud493

Well I'm a creationist. So it doesn't surprise me.

Harry Palmr

So 31% of average Americans haven't noticed they are both taller and heavier than their forbears?

c_man

shruikan2553 wrote: »

From my experience of the US school system, we started the day by praying to a flag.

Pfft, come back to me when ye pray before each and every class of the day. Proper prayers. Any teacher not implementing this was a rarity and speculated to be an extreme leftie.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So 31% of average Americans haven't noticed they are both taller and heavier than their forbears?

That's environmental, Harry. They are healthier and better fed so they come closer to their biological maximums.

Chucken

Didn't Stephen Hawking say that we're all free to believe whatever we want?

Harry Palmr

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

That's environmental, Harry. They are healthier and better fed so they come closer to their biological maximums.

But environmental development be-gets evolutionary development at least in part . Its not all about growing a third eye.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Harry Palmr wrote: »

But environmental development be-gets evolutionary development at least in part . Its not all about growing a third eye.

A third eye would be silly, I couldn't keep my glasses on at all with that.

But that's true. I was only looking at 2-3 generations but it would have a big effect over 10s of generations alright.

B.A._Baracus

Got to take these surveys with a pinch of salt. But lets say its true for a second. So 31% of people believe we didnt envolve.... Who cares?

Sorry op, but what exactly do you want... everyone to believe the same thing? ... same thing as you of course

Packrat

"Leaders of the free world" Ignorant slobs. Rome in its heyday wasn't a patch on them.
Don't worry too much about it though, people with everything and every knowledge the world has to offer available to them and who choose to believe in sky faries creating the world won't last more than another few generations.

anncoates

sxt wrote: »

31% of the US public believe that humans never evolved

Reading this forum is just skewing their perspective.

Chucken

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Got to take these surveys with a pinch of salt. But lets say its true for a second. So 31% of people believe we didnt envolve.... Who cares?

Sorry op, but what exactly do you want... everyone to believe the same thing? ... same thing as you of course

And that's what's wrong with the world. If everyone minded their own beliefs, we'd all be grand.

Canis Lupus

In Australia in a survey taken last year: 1 in 4 Australians think humans coexisted with dinosaurs and 59% surveyed didn't know it takes 365 days for the earth to orbit the sun.... I don't think stupidity is solely the domain of the Americans.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Canis Lupus wrote: »

In Australia in a survey taken last year: 1 in 4 Australians think humans coexisted with dinosaurs and 59% surveyed didn't know it takes 365 days for the earth to orbit the sun.... I don't think stupidity is solely the domain of the Americans.

But they are nearer to us and also (for the moment anyway) the most powerful nation on earth. It is a big concern that one third believe in a 7 day creation over the 13.5 billion years it actually took.

Bongalongherb

Canis Lupus wrote: »

In Australia in a survey taken last year: 1 in 4 Australians think humans coexisted with dinosaurs and 59% surveyed didn't know it takes 365 days for the earth to orbit the sun.... I don't think stupidity is solely the domain of the Americans.

I wouldn't call it stupidity, I would call it uneducated that's all. Would you be stupid if a person asked you to build the circuit for a radio receiver and you couldn't build it ? of course not, you would just be uneducated in the field.

NachoBusiness

97.3% of intelligent people are excellent at avoiding those likely to request that they participate in a survey... sooo the percentage is not so bad.

AnotherYear

Who cares. Let everyone believe in what they want to believe in as long as they're not harming anyone. What do you want from this thread. For people to say they're thick then b about them. Pointless. Funny thing is they problem think you're crazy for thinking the opposite and I'd tell them the same thing.

JaseBelleVie

TheShockmaster wrote: »

Not really, 31% of Americans don't add up to s**t, they probably don't vote or own a passport. Why should the civilised world care what they think?

Because they probably do vote, and if they do vote, they will vote Republican. :eek:

Wang King

Bongalongherb wrote: »

I wouldn't call it stupidity, I would call it uneducated that's all. Would you be stupid if a person asked you to build the circuit for a radio receiver and you couldn't build it ? of course not, you would just be uneducated in the field.

Thinking that dinosaurs and humans coexisted is stupidity.
Not knowing that a year is 365 days and it takes that long for the earth to complete a full revolution of the sun is stupidity.
Comparing those 2 basic truths to the building of an electronic circuit for a radio receiver is....well . you know

Chucken

Wang King wrote: »

Thinking that dinosaurs and humans coexisted is stupidity.
Not knowing that a year is 365 days and it takes that long for the earth to complete a full revolution of the sun is stupidity.
Comparing those 2 basic points to the building of an electronic circuit for a radio receiver is....well . you know

How is it stupid if you've never been taught anything to contradict it?

steddyeddy

AnotherYear wrote: »

Who cares. Let everyone believe in what they want to believe in as long as they're not harming anyone. What do you want from this thread. For people to say they're thick then b about them. Pointless. Funny thing is they problem think you're crazy for thinking the opposite and I'd tell them the same thing.

Because they have an influence on which government controls the most powerful country in the world.

steddyeddy

Chucken wrote: »

How is it stupid if you've never been taught anything to contradict it?

Well a sign of intelligence is actually learning on your own and not relying on what you're taught.

Bongalongherb

Wang King wrote: »

Thinking that dinosaurs and humans coexisted is stupidity.
Not knowing that a year is 365 days and it takes that long for the earth to complete a full revolution of the sun is stupidity.
Comparing those 2 basic truths to the building of an electronic circuit for a radio receiver is....well . you know

It was just a basic analogy to your comment. It is uneducated, not stupidity. Try to understand the difference.

Wang King

Chucken wrote: »

How is it stupid if you've never been taught anything to contradict it?

”let me Google that for you "

Man's natural curiosity should have given them the answers, or at the very least, the ability to seek out the answers. but some people are too lazy and stupid to think for themselves, they have to be spoonfed every last detail. Sad really

Chucken

Wang King wrote: »

”let me Google that for you "

Man's natural curiosity should have given them the answers, or at the very least, the ability to seek out the answers. but some people are too lazy and stupid to think for themselves, they have to be spoonfed every last detail. Sad really

How long is it since could you ''google that for me''?
You know the world was around before Google? It hasnt always been so easy to seek out answers.

Wang King

Bongalongherb wrote: »

It was just a basic analogy to your comment. It is uneducated, not stupidity. Try to understand the difference.

No, people are taught about evolution in schools, it is widely available to view in the net, McDonald's produce books to distribute with kids happy meals... If after all that, 25% of Australians chose to believe man and dinosaur coexisted, they are either creationists or stupid...or both

Wang King

Chucken wrote: »

How long is it since could you ''google that for me''?
You know the world was around before Google? It hasnt always been so easy to seek out answers.

25% of Australians today.
Books, TV, national geographic channel, loads of places to seek information

Dirty Steve

You callin me a ape son? Do I look like a monkey to you?

Maximus Alexander

cloud493 wrote: »

Well I'm a creationist. So it doesn't surprise me.

Any explanation for this?

wretcheddomain

Mena wrote: »

I'm more concerned with your missing two!!!

They're the agnostics. :pac:

AnotherYear

steddyeddy wrote: »

Because they have an influence on which government controls the most powerful country in the world.

And the majority who do believe in evolution have a bigger influence.

Bongalongherb

What a boring world it would be if every human being had the exact same belief/thought system. In 100 years it could all change again into some other philosophy - belief - system.

Bongalongherb

Wang King wrote: »

No, people are taught about evolution in schools, it is widely available to view in the net, McDonald's produce books to distribute with kids happy meals... If after all that, 25% of Australians chose to believe man and dinosaur coexisted, they are either creationists or stupid...or both

Why are you angry about that ? if those folk want to believe in what they prescribe to in their own philosophy then what is the problem if they are happy with this ?. Why does it bother you so much ?.

Do you want forced-conformity of humanity to your beliefs ?.

McDonald's produce books to distribute with kids happy meals.

Seriously :rolleyes:

Maximus Alexander

Bongalongherb wrote: »

What a boring world it would be if every human being had the exact same belief/thought system. In 100 years it could all change again into some other philosophy - belief - system.

It would only be boring if conflict, tribalism and bickering are the only things that excite you.

SeanW

shruikan2553 wrote: »

From my experience of the US school system, we started the day by praying to a flag. I wouldn't really expect much.

At least the people who go on to work in these areas appear to be mostly having some intelligence.

You didn't "pray" to thhe flag, you pledged your allegiance to the country.

Big difference.

Though I'm not a big fan of the "under God" addition to the Pledge, it had originally been written without it by a liberal in the 1800s with a view to being something that could be shared without reservation by everyone, whether they be believers or not. The pledge would be much better with those words gone.

AngryHippie

59%-82% of people on the world believe in a man/woman/elephant/alien/God in the sky whom we are all put here to please and obey.....:eek:
http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf

COYVB

AngryHippie wrote: »

59%-82% of people on the world believe in a man/woman/elephant/alien/God in the sky whom we are all put here to please and obey.....:eek:
http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf

That's, frankly, terrifying to me

Antar Bolaeisk

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm always sceptical of these surveys. My anecdotal experience of Americans is that the ratio of smart to unsmart people is more or less the same as it is everywhere else.

30% daft to 70% not so daft sounds about right for most countries.

abff

AngryHippie wrote: »

59%-82% of people on the world believe in a man/woman/elephant/alien/God in the sky whom we are all put here to please and obey.....:eek:
http://redcresearch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RED-C-press-release-Religion-and-Atheism-25-7-12.pdf

Until I looked at that survey, I didn't know that redc was spelled with a c and not sea. Does that make me stupid or just ignorant?

BlaasForRafa

It doesn't really matter what the 31% believe. Evolution isn't a belief, it's a fact, it happens whether you acknowledge it or not.