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Gone Drinking · 29-01-2015 11:59AM

bangkok wrote: »

that pic was taken at Wembley day before the final, after that conversation took place, even in the picture, you can see the disappointment in berba's face, he had just been told he didn't make the squad for the final. After that as the training continued he was totally lifeless, like the life was sucked out of him, he just wanted to get the hell out of there.

It's gospel so!!

bren2001 · 29-01-2015 12:09PM

bangkok wrote: »

that pic was taken at Wembley day before the final, after that conversation took place, even in the picture, you can see the disappointment in berba's face, he had just been told he didn't make the squad for the final. After that as the training continued he was totally lifeless, like the life was sucked out of him, he just wanted to get the hell out of there.

So absolutely no evidence at all to support your statement. Grand so.

On a side note, nice to know Fergie had no class and dropped one of players on the training pitch in front of the press. Good to know....

TheDoc · 29-01-2015 12:11PM

bangkok wrote: »

that pic was taken at Wembley day before the final, after that conversation took place, even in the picture, you can see the disappointment in berba's face, he had just been told he didn't make the squad for the final. After that as the training continued he was totally lifeless, like the life was sucked out of him, he just wanted to get the hell out of there.

Berbatov is on record stating he was told he wouldn't be in the squad after he arrived at the stadium, about 40 minutes before kick off.

Ferguson even mentioned it in his post match interview, that he decided on Owen in the run up to kickoff.

One of the main talking points was how Berbatov calmy got out of his kit in the dressing room, into his suit, and left the dressing room without saying a word.

Ferguson stated that he chose Owen last minute, in that maybe he would be able to snatch a goal if things were tight, but the game developed into a Barcallona domination second half.

You spout so much rubbish it's not even funny. There is literally a video of Berbatov at a press conference after his move to Fulham, in Bulgaria, where he was candid and open about his exit and what happened on that night in Wembley.

The Moldy Gowl · 29-01-2015 12:13PM

bangkok wrote: »

that pic was taken at Wembley day before the final, after that conversation took place, even in the picture, you can see the disappointment in berba's face, he had just been told he didn't make the squad for the final. After that as the training continued he was totally lifeless, like the life was sucked out of him, he just wanted to get the hell out of there.

I didnt know you can read a conversation from a still picture, or was present for the training, or know what he wanted.

TheDoc · 29-01-2015 12:14PM

Also furthermore, the picture you are presenting as "the moment" is an image Sky used to headline a story about Berbatov moving to PSG, and was taken during pre-season, a few weeks before Berbatov moved to Fulham.

Making lies and spinning bollox about Berbasaur is simply the line, your ****ing dead to me.

bangkok · 29-01-2015 12:20PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Berbatov is on record stating he was told he wouldn't be in the squad after he arrived at the stadium, about 40 minutes before kick off.

Ferguson even mentioned it in his post match interview, that he decided on Owen in the run up to kickoff.

One of the main talking points was how Berbatov calmy got out of his kit in the dressing room, into his suit, and left the dressing room without saying a word.

Ferguson stated that he chose Owen last minute, in that maybe he would be able to snatch a goal if things were tight, but the game developed into a Barcallona domination second half.

You spout so much rubbish it's not even funny. There is literally a video of Berbatov at a press conference after his move to Fulham, in Bulgaria, where he was candid and open about his exit and what happened on that night in Wembley.

berba knew the night before he wasn't in the squad.

where is this stated? he only came into the dressing room after game was over.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/may/29/dimitar-berbatov-manchester-united

bangkok · 29-01-2015 12:22PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Also furthermore, the picture you are presenting as "the moment" is an image Sky used to headline a story about Berbatov moving to PSG, and was taken during pre-season, a few weeks before Berbatov moved to Fulham.

Making lies and spinning bollox about Berbasaur is simply the line, your ****ing dead to me.

no that pic was from Wembley, you are 100% wrong my friend

Lord TSC · 29-01-2015 12:23PM

bangkok wrote: »

no that pic was from Wembley, you are 100% wrong my friend

Unless you can provide absolute proof either way (both sides), perhaps it's better if we move on....

bangkok · 29-01-2015 12:31PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Unless you can provide absolute proof either way (both sides), perhaps it's better if we move on....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG0UuO8XXbU

theres the video of them training before the final at Wembley..

http://joshuaongys.com/2011/05/pre-match-press-conference-training-session-manchester-united-vs-barcelona-wembley-uefa-champions-league-final-2010-2011-believe/

and theres all the pictures....

bren2001 · 29-01-2015 12:34PM

I wouldn't typically defend bangkok for a variety of reasons but if you do a reverse google image search, plenty of the results state it is from training in Wembley. However, none state it was the moment he was dropped.

Pro. F · 29-01-2015 12:39PM

bangkok wrote: »

that pic was taken at Wembley day before the final, after that conversation took place, even in the picture, you can see the disappointment in berba's face, he had just been told he didn't make the squad for the final. After that as the training continued he was totally lifeless, like the life was sucked out of him, he just wanted to get the hell out of there.

bangkok wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG0UuO8XXbU

theres the video of them training before the final at Wembley..

http://joshuaongys.com/2011/05/pre-match-press-conference-training-session-manchester-united-vs-barcelona-wembley-uefa-champions-league-final-2010-2011-believe/

and theres all the pictures....

You are incredibly gullible.

bangkok · 29-01-2015 12:41PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Also furthermore, the picture you are presenting as "the moment" is an image Sky used to headline a story about Berbatov moving to PSG, and was taken during pre-season, a few weeks before Berbatov moved to Fulham.

Making lies and spinning bollox about Berbasaur is simply the line, your ****ing dead to me.

and by the way, you call me for a bullsh!tter yet you just made that bit up out of thin air

bucketybuck · 29-01-2015 12:44PM

bangkok wrote: »

http://joshuaongys.com/2011/05/pre-match-press-conference-training-session-manchester-united-vs-barcelona-wembley-uefa-champions-league-final-2010-2011-believe/

and theres all the pictures....

The Berbatov picture isn't there in that link?

KH25 · 29-01-2015 12:44PM

This place is getting ridiculous. For the love of God Ed, please sign somebody so we can talk about that!

bangkok · 29-01-2015 12:48PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

The Berbatov picture isn't there in that link?

http://metro.co.uk/2011/05/28/dimitar-berbatov-to-be-offered-back-to-spurs-after-champions-league-final-snub-26216/

theres a pic

thelad95 · 29-01-2015 12:51PM

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/28/manchester-united-fans-cambridge-ticket-sunderland

Not sure if there's many STH on this site but what do people think of this. One of my friends in college is a STH and he says the vast majority of fans know they're obliged to buy tickets for FA cup and Champions League home games. I think it's just slow news day rag talk and an attempt by the media to take the piss out of Manchester United after they all ran the story about City selling 2 for 1 tickets to a CL game.

Lovely Bloke · 29-01-2015 12:51PM

TheDoc wrote: »

A poster boy for all of us who never had pace, but brains to burn on a football pitch.

omg

KH25 · 29-01-2015 12:53PM

thelad95 wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/28/manchester-united-fans-cambridge-ticket-sunderland

Not sure if there's many STH on this site but what do people think of this. One of my friends in college is a STH and he says the vast majority of fans know they're obliged to buy tickets for FA cup and Champions League home games. I think it's just slow news day rag talk and an attempt by the media to take the piss out of Manchester United after they all ran the story about City selling 2 for 1 tickets to a CL game.

Has this not come up before? I seem to remember something similar last year. Bit of a non-story IMO especially if STH's know they're obliged to buy the tickets.

TheDoc · 29-01-2015 12:55PM

bangkok wrote: »

and by the way, you call me for a bullsh!tter yet you just made that bit up out of thin air

Will happily apologise if it is indeed from Wembely, however the quick googling I did brought up descriptions on the pic of Ferguson and Berbatov in pre-season training.

Either or, both sides indicated the decision was made in the run-up to kickoff, not in advance.

And let's not go back on that decision, one of the most idiotic managerial decisions I have ever seen.

The Moldy Gowl · 29-01-2015 01:05PM

KH25 wrote: »

Has this not come up before? I seem to remember something similar last year. Bit of a non-story IMO especially if STH's know they're obliged to buy the tickets.

Did this happen before the bayern game last year??

Blatter · 29-01-2015 01:06PM

TheDoc wrote: »

And let's not go back on that decision, one of the most idiotic managerial decisions I have ever seen.

Not really. A few of us here were happy with it and it was actually predicted before it happened.

Berbatov was in horrible form at the time. In the league game against Blackpool a few days prior, he couldn't hit a barn door. Owen then came on and within a few mins he scored. People at the time felt more confident in Owen getting a goal from the bench and justifiably so. Berbatov's goal record and performances as a sub were really poor.

If it was me, neither would have been on the bench though. I would have started Nani and put Rooney up front on his own with Hernandez being the striker in the bench.

The Moldy Gowl · 29-01-2015 01:13PM

What was the team and bench for that match? Just out of curiousity.

Couldn't be arsed googling.

bangkok · 29-01-2015 01:15PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

What was the team and bench for that match? Just out of curiousity.

Couldn't be arsed googling.

01 Van der Sar
03 Evra
05 Ferdinand
15 Vidic
20 Fabio Da Silva (Nani 69)
11 Giggs
13 Park Ji-Sung
16 Carrick yellow card (Scholes 76)
25 Valencia yellow card
10 Rooney
14 Hernandez

Substitutes

29 Kuszczak,
12 Smalling,
08 Anderson,
17 Nani,
18 Scholes,
24 Fletcher,
07 Owen

Blatter · 29-01-2015 01:27PM

Playing Hernandez in that match was one of Fergie's biggest mistakes IMO.

We still probably would've lost but Nani and Valencia on the flanks would've given a good counter attacking threat at the time and Park would've done a better job of disrupting Busquets from starting attacks, something Rooney couldn't get to grips with. Rooney would've done a much better job of holding the ball up top than Hernandez did. It was almost like playing with 10 men at times such was the ineffectiveness of Chico.

yabadabado · 29-01-2015 01:45PM

thelad95 wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/28/manchester-united-fans-cambridge-ticket-sunderland

Not sure if there's many STH on this site but what do people think of this. One of my friends in college is a STH and he says the vast majority of fans know they're obliged to buy tickets for FA cup and Champions League home games. I think it's just slow news day rag talk and an attempt by the media to take the piss out of Manchester United after they all ran the story about City selling 2 for 1 tickets to a CL game.

Its a non story.If a ST holder doesn't know what they have signed up for then they have no one to blame but themselves.

UnitedIrishman · 29-01-2015 02:05PM

Blatter wrote: »

Playing Hernandez in that match was one of Fergie's biggest mistakes IMO.

We still probably would've lost but Nani and Valencia on the flanks would've given a good counter attacking threat at the time and Park would've done a better job of disrupting Busquets from starting attacks, something Rooney couldn't get to grips with. Rooney would've done a much better job of holding the ball up top than Hernandez did. It was almost like playing with 10 men at times such was the ineffectiveness of Chico.

Yeah I think the thinking behind it was pace on the counter and that Chicarito would chase down the Barca defenders playing around the back but as Bayern showed a few years later the entire team has to press to be effective. Should have been Rooney on his own with 5 in behind. Played into Barca's hands that day but to be fair they were on another planet to any side so its hard to see how we would've lived with them anyways.

bucketybuck · 29-01-2015 02:18PM

I don't think it mattered who we had up front, my big concern leading up to that final was the astounding fact that despite getting schooled once already our midfield was going to be Carrick and Ryan Giggs. It was no surprise at all that we couldn't compete on the day.

TheDoc · 29-01-2015 02:29PM

Wonder every now and then how different would the club be, if we won those finals against Barcalona.

That would be what, 3 victories in 4 years? Wonder if we would have turned into an absolute powerhouse, like, unstoppable ****.

When you look at players who have turned away from us for rivals or other clubs, skimping on transfer fees, not competing for big targets for years.

Oh what might have been had we won those.

bullvine · 29-01-2015 02:33PM

The 09 Final Irritates me greatly, it was there for the taking personally, 2011 we were totally out played and got a goal totally against the run of play.

The Moldy Gowl · 29-01-2015 02:34PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Wonder every now and then how different would the club be, if we won those finals against Barcalona.

That would be what, 3 victories in 4 years? Wonder if we would have turned into an absolute powerhouse, like, unstoppable ****.

When you look at players who have turned away from us for rivals or other clubs, skimping on transfer fees, not competing for big targets for years.

Oh what might have been had we won those.

The same thing would have happened. Sure Giggs and carrick won 3 finals in center mid. We don't need a new players.

Valencia needs to play every game. Sure he won 3 cls.

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