LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

kingofburt · 14-01-2015 01:45PM

I've recently moved home and have been following this and the bangernomics thread with interest!

I came across this GS earlier, if its as genuine as they claim its a great deal. It can be exported to Northern Ireland with a VRT rebate of €750, so that makes it £2,500 stg, underpriced by about £4,000, but I do too many miles to justify it.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-gs300/8424169?offset=1

mickdw · 14-01-2015 03:10PM

kingofburt wrote: »

I've recently moved home and have been following this and the bangernomics thread with interest!

I came across this GS earlier, if its as genuine as they claim its a great deal. It can be exported to Northern Ireland with a VRT rebate of €750, so that makes it £2,500 stg, underpriced by about £4,000, but I do too many miles to justify it.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-gs300/8424169?offset=1

Couple of things.
The rebate is not known unless the appraisal had been carried out on the car as it may have come into the country via a vrt exemption or even if registered new here, it could have been bought by disabled driver with a vrt exemption. In those cases there is no rebate available.
Secondly, is it really worth 6500 sterling in uk?
Even without rebate, it's a no brainer if worth that in the uk

Eric Cartman · 14-01-2015 03:37PM

mickdw wrote: »

Couple of things.
The rebate is not known unless the appraisal had been carried out on the car as it may have come into the country via a vrt exemption or even if registered new here, it could have been bought by disabled driver with a vrt exemption. In those cases there is no rebate available.
Secondly, is it really worth 6500 sterling in uk?
Even without rebate, it's a no brainer if worth that in the uk

3 litre cars never got the disabled exemption Afaik, can anyone confirm.

Also not a menttion of nct and for sale in donegal worries me

And that would be a hard enough colour to sell compared to black or silver , especially in the uk

mickdw · 14-01-2015 03:43PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

3 litre cars never got the disabled exemption Afaik, can anyone confirm.

Also not a menttion of nct and for sale in donegal worries me

And that would be a hard enough colour to sell compared to black or silver , especially in the uk

ivory callely the politician was driving around in a range rover which availed of the vrt and vat rebate to the max amount so it would seem all is possible.

bear1 · 14-01-2015 03:46PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

3 litre cars never got the disabled exemption Afaik, can anyone confirm.

Also not a menttion of nct and for sale in donegal worries me

And that would be a hard enough colour to sell compared to black or silver , especially in the uk

And for very good reason, it expired on the 03/05/14.

kingofburt · 14-01-2015 03:50PM

Yeah, it's got potential to be a dud, but if it's genuine like they say then it's some serious motor for the price. It doesn't suit me to run it and try to sell it at the same time, I was just sticking it up in case someone was interested.

No idea why the for sale in Donegal would worry you, it's not some clapped out car, normal people live there too and they even have roads with tarmac:rolleyes:

Big Nasty · 14-01-2015 03:51PM

mickdw wrote: »

ivory callely the politician was driving around in a range rover which availed of the vrt and vat rebate to the max amount so it would seem all is possible.

I could be wrong but I think it's 2L for a disabled driver and up to 4L for a carer.

mickdw · 14-01-2015 03:55PM

Big Nasty wrote: »

I could be wrong but I think it's 2L for a disabled driver and up to 4L for a carer.

Yep. I think there was a difference between driver or carer as you say.

unkel · 14-01-2015 05:28PM

Ivor Calelly claimed a lot of expenses (some entirely made up), thinking he could get away with it.

He couldn't. He's in jail now for fraud.

PrettyBoy · 14-01-2015 05:42PM

Seems extremely underpriced so there must be a good reason for it. My father sold his 07 GS300 with similar milage for €8500 a few months ago. The DL plates are never a good sign but would be worth a call to get all the details.

mickdw · 14-01-2015 05:49PM

unkel wrote: »

Ivor Calelly claimed a lot of expenses (some entirely made up), thinking he could get away with it.

He couldn't. He's in jail now for fraud.

I'm aware of that but the range rover was legit in terms of being suitable for the rebate - it was well investigated at the time.

wilford · 14-01-2015 11:03PM

After looking at a few gs's before I got mine that is well below what they should be looking for,also you will find it hard to get a bargain gs in the uk they are all a lot more expensive than you'll find over here.

Sobanek · 15-01-2015 09:47AM

I had a look at 4 GS300s before I bought my E38 and there's always been an issue with something - mileage, rust etc.

I think it's easier to find a decent one in the UK.

cadaliac · 15-01-2015 02:39PM

03
GS with <100k miles
NCT until 2016
€3999
here

unkel · 15-01-2015 03:06PM

Looks good, but isn't the asking price very optimistic?

Sobanek · 15-01-2015 04:28PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-lexus-gs300-nct-05-2015-swap/7793768?offset=18

2005 GS300 (old shape) for €2k.

cadaliac · 15-01-2015 08:05PM

unkel wrote: »

Looks good, but isn't the asking price very optimistic?

Indeed, I didn't research it too much. It was just in response to the previous comments about the cost of a GS here versus the UK.

Eric Cartman · 16-01-2015 01:49PM

Sobanek wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-lexus-gs300-nct-05-2015-swap/7793768?offset=18

2005 GS300 (old shape) for €2k.

that actually looks like a decent barge, for that money you can't go wrong. Fairly well spec'd too, only seems to be missing navigation.

ofcork · 26-01-2015 07:02PM

The alloys look like they came off an IS look small on the gs.

Voodoomelon · 26-01-2015 07:16PM

Are people out there still looking at luxobarges? Has anyone seen any trends, less on the ground etc?

Atlantic Dawn · 26-01-2015 08:42PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Are people out there still looking at luxobarges? Has anyone seen any trends, less on the ground etc?

Yes since the economy picked up and the price of fuel dropped there's very few bargains. Also a chance on certain models that the VRT export refund may have sent some to the UK.

Eric Cartman · 26-01-2015 10:02PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Are people out there still looking at luxobarges? Has anyone seen any trends, less on the ground etc?

even in terms of luxury cars.

Range rovers - especially TDV8 models and high spec models have pretty much disappeared from sale (no vogue SE's on donedeal, 1 on carzone, even real vogue's are hard to come by unless youll accept one with mega miles)

e66 745i's - I remember at one point there were 10-15 of these on donedeal in one go, now there are none, very hard to find, 750's and other high end stuff too.

e38's - very few left for sale, especially anything over a 728i

s500's - used to be 10+ for sale at any one time , 00-03 models for under 5k , now theres 3 intact ones left on donedeal.

mickdw · 26-01-2015 11:03PM

I would have been crying out for the vrt rebate to be introduced.
Now I can see that it is taking away all the nice old cars

Voodoomelon · 26-01-2015 11:19PM

Wow, that's a same, suppose it was only a matter of time.

In fairness we didn't have that great a selection as such, just lots of the same thing left over from the boom, CL500s, S500s, 745is coming out of our ears; very few with anything over base trim.

Just goes to show how few people actually drive these cars in this country, in a mere 12 months they've disappeared.

PrettyBoy · 27-01-2015 12:17PM

Is the hassle of finding a buyer in the UK, MOT'ing it and applying for a rebate at with an automatic €500 deduction really worth it? I was offered an 03 S320 for €3k last year. I was considering selling it in the UK but when I saw what had to be done it didn't seem worth the hassle plus there was no guarantee of a profit at the end of it all.

Has anyone here done it?

Voodoomelon · 27-01-2015 12:26PM

I suspect many went much further abroad than the UK; the same cars weren't much more expensive over there than they were here.

Stallingrad · 27-01-2015 01:28PM

My BMW is in Poland somewhere. :-(

PrettyBoy · 27-01-2015 01:37PM

What's the import process like for Poland, Russia, etc.? Does it have to pass an initial road worthiness test and have dials in MPH like the UK?

mickdw · 27-01-2015 01:50PM

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Is the hassle of finding a buyer in the UK, MOT'ing it and applying for a rebate at with an automatic €500 deduction really worth it? I was offered an 03 S320 for €3k last year. I was considering selling it in the UK but when I saw what had to be done it didn't seem worth the hassle plus there was no guarantee of a profit at the end of it all.

Has anyone here done it?

Not done it but certainly money to be made on expensive stuff, not in stuff of this price range imo.

Eric Cartman · 27-01-2015 02:13PM

mickdw wrote: »

Not done it but certainly money to be made on expensive stuff, not in stuff of this price range imo.

I worked it out at the time and you could take a 2006-2009 range rover vogue from here and land it in the uk, mot register and all and break even with uk prices , so if you took the vrt rebate as your profit you were walking away with 2.5-4k a car

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