1405 campaign news

http:// www . belfasttelegraph . co.uk / news/ policings-22m-budget-reprieve-will-avert-a-major-crisis-30914444.html

Here is a link to the article(which I still can't post as I am a new user). With the extra money maybe there will be more recruits taken on, police stations might stay open longer and community policing might not be cut as much?

Can't help but think with the investigations into the past going to be shifted into a new department, along with lots of police officers due to retire in the next couple of years there will be a LOT of money free from the budget to surely start recruiting on a regular basis? Or at least take a few hundred this year and a few next... ?

the411 wrote: »

Is anybody else getting impatient I wish there were definitive time scales.

Kinda yeah, only thing is we could be in for a wait, it's good to see news reports on the psni getting a 22 mil reprieve, and apparently the budget for 2015/16 isn't as bad as feared, so it's all looking positive, I'm just hoping that vetting forms start coming through this week, I'm not expecting any myself as I didn't score as high as some folks, but it would sorta settle me as such and would feel that the ball is rolling, just use it as time to polish off on the auld fitness.

It is a very long process, but I think a number of factors is reasoning behind it, it's a different process from what the folks prior would have had to have gone through when 50/50 was still in play, and also recruitment was frozen for a couple of years prior to that they routinely had 2 campaigns a year going, so it becomes ccumbersome to start recruitment after a period of no recruitment.

The only thing that was to potentially slow down this process we're all in now for 1405 was budget, but hopefully that won't be the case now (touch wood). So in theory it should be a bit more fluid as recruitment would have ironed out the creases from campaign 1 as such lol, and the fact the recruitment ball is rolling. Totally my own train of thought, could be completely up the left by next week, that's the joys of this backwards country. But yes it is very long lol think about, May was when we submitted our applications it's now late January, 8 months later, it's kinda crazy lol

Double post! Sorry using phone.

it's a different process from what the folks prior would have had to have gone through when 50/50 was still in play

I don't know that it's all that different,certainly not much slower. It was a while ago so I'm sketchy on the details but I definitely waited between a year to a year and a half before getting dear johns for previous campaigns during 50/50

Currently watching the assembly debating the budget and not long after I started watching the question was asked about the £20m that was allocated to the PSNI. The Minister of Finance said that £20m was specifically for the PSNI and that recruitment for will continue. Feeling optimistic.

It was also pointed out that the CC wanted around £28m and even though it is not that figure it is a heck of a lot better than the figure in the draft budget.

Sthm wrote: »

Only my guess, but I'd say 378 will be taken as per the original plans.

I'm listening to Simon Hamilton's statement live at the moment and he just said that he had spoken to the Chief Con recently who confirmed that 20m would take off some pressure and also allow recruitment to continue.

Edit: What Fish said above haha.

Great minds, eh?

Just seen the news and read on the BBC news app that the extra 20 mil the psni will receive will allow recruitment to continue as planned for 2015/16 so happy to see that haha

www.psni.police.uk/deputy_chief_constable_welcomes_additional_budget_allocation_19_01_15

There's the deputy cc Drew Harris speaking on the budget, doesn't say anything on recruitment but it's brief and positive which is always good.

Auvol wrote: »

Hi been following this forum for a while and thought I would sign up. Currently in this campaign but with an ac score in the low 60's I'm not getting my hopes up!

I've seen some speculation here on how many applied after 7.5k applying for the last campaign. Theres an FOI request on the PSNI site that shows 5856 applied for this one if I'm reading it right, dont think its been mentioned here before.

Can you put up a link or even PM me one? (you'll have to put spaces it in if you are posting it as you are a new user i believe)

warofattrition wrote: »

Can you post a link to that?

Im pretty sure that only 3100 applied to campaign 2

psni.police. uk / applications_to_join_psni. pdf

Auvol wrote: »

psni.police. uk / applications_to_join_psni. pdf

That's interesting because the chief said 10000 people applied for 800 jobs, but that states the number so that's interesting, thanks Auvol and welcome to he boards no matter your score with the announcement today you have as good a chance as anyone, campaign 1 is taking on the same amount and are down to 62's with another squad to be called next month so I reckon your good

www.psni.police.uk/applications_to_join_psni.pdf


Try that folks, Auvol is right from what I can see you will need to copy the link directly into an address bar as it's a pdf download.

No worries had to edit it there just copy and paste and should download now for anyone interested, the direct link didn't work but that should do it now.

Hopefully I haven't got people down by posting that more applied than we thought!

To be a bit more positive we know 7493 applied for campaign 1 and 758 passed AC so roughly 10%. If we apply that to camapaign 2 that means around 586 people should have passed the AC and with drop outs and failures through the final stages that should give anyone who passes all the stages a very good chance of getting in if they take on the full 370 ish now.

Just me trying to guess and stay positive like many others on here!

KevBo2015 wrote: »

Logically you could argue they have passed 758 from the AC like last year, recruitment is still on going from campaign one and they are right down to the low 60 and still taking people.

If they had before budgets or politics started being played planned to recruit the same numbers then the logical conclusion would be to replicate last year's A C pass numbers? I think with this new money they will take more than 100 and with fewer applicants at the first stage us still left have a good chance. Fingers crossed we hear good news when the policing board meet.

Yeah that would make sense, was this years pass mark lower than last years?

HighburyLad wrote: »

Same as last year mate, the entrance test was lowered compared to last year's but the AC pass was 60 last year too. I was listening to the radio there on the way into work and the finance minister had a meeting with the chief about the budget.

He said the chief said recruitment was a major priority, and needed to continue as although numbers were passing out, the overall number of officers was steadily declining as more were leaving than coming in, and recruitment would need to conitue steadily for that to plateau.

Makes sense to me, they will take on the full amount originally planned as its said all over the news, and I reckon a third campaign will happen either the end of this year or definitely early next year.

Was that on the hourly news that you heard that HLad?

Seen on BBC news live feed that the policing board could see their salaries cut by up to 50%.

Hopefully this actually happens and frees up alot more cash for the Justice Department to spend where it is actually needed.

HighburyLad wrote: »

Aye seen that too mate, think mla's and politicians alike will be in for a shock, major shake up that seems long over due within the northern Ireland civil service.

I can't agree more, it's about time something was done.

I'm gonna guess that the PSNI will talk about it come the February policing board meeting, which isn't too far away now, in a couple of weeks. I guess the reason no one has received any vetting forms maybe they were waiting to see what the new budget was going to entail, maybe they had a plan for no change in budget, and maybe the plan has changed in more people will get vetting forms out, now that it has changed for the better, in only guessing.

They're definitely continuing on with recruitment as originally planned, which is why I think they got this money to make sure recruitment was unaffected, as that is what all the news reports said, 22 million, recruitment can continue as originally planned. I believe squads will continue as they have been, of 30 to 42 a time rather than the potential 20 over a longer period of time. Here's hoping some forms will be sent out next week so we know the ball is rolling. Again I'm only throwing my tuppence worth, but you would assume that it will continue on as campaign 1 has and did.

Cromlech wrote: »

They could be exhausting campaign 1's merit list first before they proceed with the remaining stages of campaign 2. I'm just speculating as those of us who scored the lower 60's in campaign 1 haven't recieved any correspondence stating that we have been unsuccessful, and with what we have assumed up to now is only one more intake left it would make sense to let us know.

I am aware of some members having contacted HR and have been told that there is no set end date for campaign 1, but like anything in this process, things can change.

Ah Yeah, that's a fair point mate