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Athiests - Who cares

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  • #182
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,745 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    Theres an atheist around these parts who is ultra ready to produce "studies" which "prove" that atheists are smarter then people with belief.
    Frequently announces themselves as "coming first in my class for the last 3 years". Obviously people with religious belief NEVER come first LOL!
    Fine, people don't want religion shoved down their throats, you hardly ever see it now anyway. But having your beliefs ridiculed and mocked for no reason is irritating and its completely unnecessary too.
    BTW announcing your atheism does not make you "edgy" nor are you "socking it to the church" . It just makes you an atheist. As already said be you atheist naturist Satanist vegetarian smelly old hippy, try not to be a dick.

    I don't go out of my way to mock others, but if your beliefs are so easily mocked perhaps it's time to find new beliefs?

    Generally if people are mocking something it's because it has an element of truth to it.

    You see it going on with the whole Muslim cartoon thing at the moment. Muslims don't allow depictions of their Prophet, therefore go mad when people do so.

    Many people find this unreasonable and end up satirizing/mocking the belief.

    It's the belief that is the issue here as it is dictating how non believers must act. The mocking is just a product of this.


  • #183
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    kneemos wrote: »
    Of course if if that deity causes people to take a certain course of action how could it not exist?

    The deity doesn't. Belief in the deity does.


  • #184
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    kneemos wrote: »
    Of course if if that deity causes people to take a certain course of action how could it not exist?

    Because there is absolutely zero proof of any existence of a god. This does not mean that god is real, quite the opposite. Believing doesn't make it so.


  • #185
    Baggy Trousers
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    I heard that people of muslim faith have much more regard for people of other faiths than atheists. It seems atheists are the lowest of the low in the Koran.


  • #186
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,884 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »
    For example having observed the sun rise every morning for 36 years I would place the claim "The sun will rise again tomorrow" as close to 100% as it is possible to get without it being 100%.
    Thinly veiled 'I live in a really sunny place' post.


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  • #187
    smash
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    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    I heard that people of muslim faith have much more regard for people of other faiths than atheists. It seems atheists are the lowest of the low in the Koran.

    For all religions, non-believers are the lowest of the low. As such, believers feel the need to try and 'save' non-believers.


  • #188
    McG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭McG


    kneemos wrote: »
    Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

    By that token I could say that you not believing in a tiny invisible horse that lives in your mouth and causes bad breath "rules out the possibility of the unexplained".


  • #189
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,074 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    kneemos wrote: »
    Of course if if that deity causes people to take a certain course of action how could it not exist?
    you said peoples actions prove the existence of a deity. It does no such thing. It only proves that they have a belief in the deity.

    For example, I'm posting this in the name of Snoopy. This means that Snoopy exists based on what you've posted.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #190
    o1s1n
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    Saipanne wrote: »
    Atheism is just another faith position.

    Lack of belief in something is not a faith position.

    My lack of belief in a god is not down to 'faith' - I don't believe in a god because the idea of a god has not been proven to me based on facts. That is not 'faith'.

    Just like I haven't seen proof of elves, unicorns or any other mythical creatures. Is not believing in them by default a 'faith position' too?


  • #191
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    COYVB wrote: »
    Correct. You either believe in something or you don't. Even if your opinion is that you can never know for sure one way or another, you still either believe in that thing or you don't - no in between exists

    I believe that an in between does exist.


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  • #192
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    Theres an atheist around these parts who is ultra ready to produce "studies" which "prove" that atheists are smarter then people with belief.

    He's not wrong, there's a strong correlation between intelligence and atheism, and between education and atheism. Working scientists are much more likely to be atheists than the average Joe.

    Not that any of that proves anything.


  • #193
    Ghost Buster
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

    No, it really doesnt. What you have is a flawed understanding of atheism.


  • #194
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    kneemos wrote: »
    Of course if if that deity causes people to take a certain course of action how could it not exist?

    Back up there... Going by that logic, Muslim extremists who murder in the name of Allah must prove the existence of Allah, therefore all other religions are worshipping a false god because obviously Allah exists.


  • #195
    constance tench
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭constance tench


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    No, it really doesnt. What you have is a flawed understanding of atheism.

    Is it possible you have a flawed understanding of what god is?


  • #196
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    This thread is hilarious [Posted in the name of the Queen Xenomorph]

    /Forevermore this post shall exist as the undeniable proof that the Queen Xenomorph is a real thing and not in anyway the fictional work of a movie production.


  • #197
    Peist2007
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

    And it is quite a flawed leap of logic to alternatively believe in a man living in the sky written about extensively by people who have never lived in the sky nor met said man.


  • #198
    Baggy Trousers
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    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    He's not wrong, there's a strong correlation between intelligence and atheism, and between education and atheism. Working scientists are much more likely to be atheists than the average Joe.

    Not that any of that proves anything.

    Who is "he" out of curiosity?


  • #199
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    Who is "he" out of curiosity?
    mrsbyrne's buddy.


  • #200
    Fuhrer
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    And it is quite a flawed leap of logic to alternatively believe in a man living in the sky written about extensively by people who have never lived in the sky nor met said man.


    This guy just said anything you think is real, is real.


    Therefore if someone thinks there is no god, then there is no god.


  • #201
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    Who is "he" out of curiosity?

    The guy who was mentioned in the quote of the post that you yourself quoted.


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  • #202
    Baggy Trousers
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    smash wrote: »
    mrsbyrne's buddy.

    Who is that? I don't follow.


  • #203
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    He's not wrong, there's a strong correlation between intelligence and atheism, and between education and atheism. Working scientists are much more likely to be atheists than the average Joe.

    Not that any of that proves anything.

    There is correlation in lots of things like this, atheists and veg*ns and x group have higher iqs, better educated, wealthier etc. Mostly it's coming down to education i would image, which is a byproduct of wealth sometimes.


  • #204
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,273 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    The deity doesn't. Belief in the deity does.

    Yes but it's the actions that make the deity real.


  • #205
    Baggy Trousers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Baggy Trousers


    Atomic Pineapple wrote: »
    The guy who was mentioned in the quote of the post that you yourself quoted.

    I know that but "he" wasn't named!


  • #206
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    This guy just said anything you think is real, is real.


    Therefore if someone thinks there is no god, then there is no god.

    I do not think that is what the guy said. But hey


  • #207
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Baggy Trousers wrote: »
    Who is "he" out of curiosity?

    Me probably, she called me thick once and I replied with I cant be that stupid, once, no "frequently". Also accused me of wanting genocide before. I think she is an ex of mine.

    I was thick for not believing in god. Hence how atheism came up.


  • #208
    constance tench
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭constance tench


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    There is correlation in lots of things like this, atheists and veg*ns and x group have higher iqs, better educated, wealthier etc. Mostly it's coming down to education i would image, which is a byproduct of wealth sometimes.


    Is that why Jesuits are poor and uneducated?


  • #209
    o1s1n
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    constance tench wrote: »
    Is it possible you have a flawed understanding of what god is?

    'A god' or 'the god'?

    If it's 'a god' then you could easily go by any dictionary definition.

    If it's 'the god' several thousand religions are going to give you a different answer and understanding. So how can it be flawed with so many possible answers?


  • #210
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    kneemos wrote: »
    Yes but it's the actions that make the deity real.

    Please define what actions provide undeniable proof that a catholic god and jesus christ exist? These actions could change the course of human history.


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  • #211
    constance tench
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭constance tench


    o1s1n wrote: »
    'A god' or 'the god'?

    If it's 'a god' then you could easily go by any dictionary definition.

    If it's 'the god' several thousand religions are going to give you a different answer and understanding. So how can it be flawed with so many possible answers?

    No, just god.


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