Scanning

supersean1999 · 12-12-2014 11:19PM

Iv a few lleyn cross ewes myself. i must keep a check and see if they scan much higher than the hiltex one.

Sheep breeder · 14-12-2014 10:05AM

scanned the last of the ewes two weeks ago and have 1.7 in them and a really good scan with the young ewes with a single and the older with doubles and only 3 triplets which are all older ewes with plenty of milk,when we put out the rams we would have being very happy with this result.

skoger · 14-12-2014 11:09PM

Scanned the lowland ewes during the week. Ended up with 1.8 and only one empty. Happy enough

premier10 · 17-12-2014 09:36PM

Scanned today, very happy, no empties.
7 Singles
38 Doubles
7 Triplets
Shocked at amount of triplets and he even said to watch 2 more as they could be triplets in them too.

sea12 · 17-12-2014 09:56PM

premier10 wrote: »

Scanned today, very happy, no empties.
7 Singles
38 Doubles
7 Triplets
Shocked at amount of triplets and he even said to watch 2 more as they could be triplets in them too.

Super results

rangler1 · 31-12-2014 03:53PM

Scanned the first of the crossbreds this morning,
16 triplets,
28 singles,
137 doubles,
none barren...1.95

Cran · 31-12-2014 04:12PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Scanned the first of the crossbreds this morning,
16 triplets,
28 singles,
137 doubles,
none barren...1.95

none barren from 180 that is some result, what breed mix are they?

sea12 · 31-12-2014 07:15PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Scanned the first of the crossbreds this morning,
16 triplets,
28 singles,
137 doubles,
none barren...1.95

Great results rangler. Everyone seems to be having a good scan again this year.
Have to wait another few weeks to do mine as don't lamb until 1st April

rangler1 · 31-12-2014 07:25PM

Cran wrote: »

none barren from 180 that is some result, what breed mix are they?

All those ewes would be 70%texel/30%Lleyn, next batch will be more Lleyn in them, I lamb my ewe lambs in april so I don't mind leaving the rams with the adult ewes until the 1st week in December, which keeps empty ewes to a minimum.
Ewes are looking really well this year

farming93 · 31-12-2014 07:26PM

Scanned 33 (mostly lleyn pb or lleyn cross) today incl Ewe lambs:
9 singles
19 twins
5 triplets
None empty
Most of the ewe lambs had twins in them while most of the 2 year olds had singles. Happy with the results.

grassroot1 · 31-12-2014 07:30PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Scanned the first of the crossbreds this morning,
16 triplets,
28 singles,
137 doubles,
none barren...1.95

That's a great scan and you have them the right way, not an over dose of triplets good luck lambing

rangler1 · 31-12-2014 07:32PM

farming93 wrote: »

Scanned 33 (mostly lleyn pb or lleyn cross) today incl Ewe lambs:
9 singles
19 twins
5 triplets
None empty
Most of the ewe lambs had twins in them while most of the 2 year olds had singles. Happy with the results.

Nice result, we usually don't have many doubles here in the ewe lambs, but the ones that do usually have a single the following year

farming93 · 31-12-2014 07:43PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Nice result, we usually don't have many doubles here in the ewe lambs, but the ones that do usually have a single the following year

Thanks! The scanner said the ewes are all in savage condition I reckon a CS of about 3.5 on average so he said to be careful on the amount of meal I give them. Any advice on feeding the ewe lambs? they are lambing from about March onwards.

rangler1 · 31-12-2014 08:18PM

farming93 wrote: »

Thanks! The scanner said the ewes are all in savage condition I reckon a CS of about 3.5 on average so he said to be careful on the amount of meal I give them. Any advice on feeding the ewe lambs? they are lambing from about March onwards.

You shouldn't have any trouble with lambs being too big in the ewe lambs carrying doubles, If you're feeding silage they'd probably be alright with .25kg ration at 6 wks from lambing .5kg at 4 wks out from lambing going up to .75kg at 2 wks.
Ewe lambs carrying singles on good silage, probably wouldn't need meal till 3or 4 wks out and then only about half the doubles amount.
The only roughage fed here is straw, so I'd be feeding them 50% more meal than that.
The two year olds scanned with singles....what did they have last year

ihatewinter · 31-12-2014 09:06PM

rangler1 wrote: »

You shouldn't have any trouble with lambs being too big in the ewe lambs carrying doubles, If you're feeding silage they'd probably be alright with .25kg ration at 6 wks from lambing .5kg at 4 wks out from lambing going up to .75kg at 2 wks.
Ewe lambs carrying singles on good silage, probably wouldn't need meal till 3or 4 wks out and then only about half the doubles amount.
The only roughage fed here is straw, so I'd be feeding them 50% more meal than that.

What's the reason for feeding straw only and a lot of concentrate? Would the cost not be too much and eat into profits?

jfh · 31-12-2014 09:43PM

Scanned ewes, hoggets won't be scanned for another month.
25 singles
22 triples
58 double
1 quad
3 barren

Happy enough, not lambing until mid March, lot of singles

jfh · 31-12-2014 09:44PM

Scanned ewes, hoggets won't be scanned for another month.
25 singles
22 triples
58 double
1 quad
3 barren

Happy enough, not lambing until mid March, lot of singles

rangler1 · 31-12-2014 09:50PM

ihatewinter wrote: »

What's the reason for feeding straw only and a lot of concentrate? Would the cost not be too much and eat into profits?

It takes about .5kg meal/day extra while they're in, so about €14 for 120 days plus half a round bale of straw for bedding/eating for the winter to replace silage....that's only €20, would a ewe survive on a bale silage for the winter for €20, there's not much difference in the cost of wintering.
But the main reason is that its easier, cleaner and drier and the sheds aren't suited to mechanical feeding

farming93 · 01-01-2015 08:05PM

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The two year olds scanned with singles....what did they have last year[/QUOTE]

The two year olds that lambed last year all had doubles but in each case only one lamb survived. There was always one big and one small and it was usually the big one that died. I didnt get anything scanned last year so perhaps I was off on the feeding but I still thought it was unusual about the size difference, any thoughts?

razor8 · 01-01-2015 08:45PM

I would put different sizes down to mineral deficiencies, but not sure which one causes it

I weigh lambs at birth and I even see a kg difference in lambs that look exactly the same size

farming93 · 01-01-2015 09:29PM

I havent heard of that one before, I may leave out mineral buckets with them this year so and hopefully that will be a bit of a booster to them. Do you weigh the lambs every year and if so what is the advantages of this?

razor8 · 01-01-2015 10:30PM

farming93 wrote: »

I havent heard of that one before, I may leave out mineral buckets with them this year so and hopefully that will be a bit of a booster to them. Do you weigh the lambs every year and if so what is the advantages of this?

A good min drench might be enough

Last two years I have, weigh and tag all lambs at birth and use TGM software, the heaviest lambs in general seem to be the first away, it's probably not a huge benefit but I try and keep ewe lambs from ewes that have two even heavy lambs every year that lamb unaided

rangler1 · 02-01-2015 05:33PM

farming93 wrote: »

[The two year olds that lambed last year all had doubles but in each case only one lamb survived. There was always one big and one small and it was usually the big one that died. I didnt get anything scanned last year so perhaps I was off on the feeding but I still thought it was unusual about the size difference, any thoughts?

The experts claim that those uneven pairs start off as a triplet, two in one horn of the uterus and one in the other side, one of the two gets reabsorbed and affects the other and the lamb in the other side thrives on.....why the bigger ones died, I don't know, I'd be going to the lab if if I was losing a lot of them...presume they were vaccinated

paddysdream · 04-01-2015 02:36AM

Scanned maincrop plus ewe lambs this week.Earlies done a while ago.

Early(end of Jan.);
2 dry.
33 singles.
43 doubles.
4 trebles.
Thats 1.6 or so.Happy enough for earlies.

Maincrop(early March);
7 dry.
207 singles.
142 doubles.
18 trebles.
Thats 1.45.
Pretty poor considering ewes had an easy year and looked good going to the ram.Suppose looking at them over the last few weeks they seemed to be in very good condition which usually indicates(well here anyways!) a sheep flock under less pressure because carrying fewer lambs.
Lot of young ewes(mainly 2nd or 3rd crop) and every one of them reared lambs last year.No second chances here.In fairness kept a good few ewes that would normally have culled on age grounds due to the fact that looking at them was tempted to say they would survive another year and still make a decent cull price.

Ewe lambs(mid to late March)
Plus a few ewes thin etc after weaning and put to the ram late.These got preferential treatment inc. good grass all year.

Ewe lambs;
5 dry
52 singles
33 doubles
Scanning 1.3.Grand for ewe lambs.Prefer dead lamb from them rather than scanning dry.

Thin ewes(mainly 2 year olds with a few elderly ladies to supply foster lambs for ewe lambs I hope!)
1 dry
9 singles.
19 doubles
6 trebles
Thats 1.85.Happy enough as long as they have enough milk at lambing.

Overall disappointed with main bunch but thats all I can do for this year.Might tempt me to try a Belclare ram for the coming year !

farming93 · 04-01-2015 02:53PM

rangler1 wrote: »

The experts claim that those uneven pairs start off as a triplet, two in one horn of the uterus and one in the other side, one of the two gets reabsorbed and affects the other and the lamb in the other side thrives on.....why the bigger ones died, I don't know, I'd be going to the lab if if I was losing a lot of them...presume they were vaccinated

Yep they were all vaccinated with an 8 in 1. I'll keep a good eye on them this year

whitetail · 06-01-2015 01:09AM

Hi all scanned the mule ewes today 162 2 Barren, 126 Doubles,19 triplets,1 quad and 14 Singles hope the weather holds up!

sea12 · 06-01-2015 10:44PM

whitetail wrote: »

Hi all scanned the mule ewes today 162 2 Barren, 126 Doubles,19 triplets,1 quad and 14 Singles hope the weather holds up!

That's some result. Think there is going to be allot of lambs next year

Cran · 06-01-2015 11:30PM

Have to say lambing ewes inside can be a miserable dehearting job harder to get it right, give me 700 outside in spring over 30 inside in January anytime. Now that's off my chest spend next 12 months forgetting negatives and work on improving

whitetail · 07-01-2015 12:21AM

sea12 wrote: »

That's some result. Think there is going to be allot of lambs next year

Scanning man said alot of multiple's this year hope the hoggets scan less next round.

paddysdream · 07-01-2015 09:33PM

Cran wrote: »

Have to say lambing ewes inside can be a miserable dehearting job harder to get it right, give me 700 outside in spring over 30 inside in January anytime. Now that's off my chest spend next 12 months forgetting negatives and work on improving

Will take any of those little pink headed ram lambs you don't want off of you if they are causing you grief.
Won't even charge for the privilege.Will give the young lad something to do rearing a few on the bottle these long dark evenings!

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