How Bout Dem Bears?

SameOleJay wrote: »

Could drop to 11 with a win. You'd be losing out on the elite talent there by the looks of things so it's pretty big. Looks like Minny are all in though so I'd fancy them.

Also...

If the Bears win, they will finish third in the division and will host the New York Giants and travel to the New Orleans Saints next season. If the Vikings win, the Bears will finish in fourth place and host the Washington Redskins and travel to play the Tampa Bay Buccaneers next season.

10 thoughts after Bears' loss to Lions - Brad Biggs

Let's go Vikings!

Oat23 wrote: »

Pickle is out next week. Concussed on that dirty hit to the head.

David Fales time.

LMAO they're playing Jay. Oh sweet jesus they can't do anything right, can they?

What a stupid decision.

The circus continues.

Rented Mule wrote: »

I'm going to strongly disagree. You also can't dismiss blowing the McClellin pick at #19. He was brought in to bridge the talent gap between the Bears and the Packers through the draft. He has failed miserably.

Who are the really major errors in the draft though? I have two big problems with Emery, his contract negotiations and his coaching hires. His drafting and general talent evaluation has been decent without being spectacular.

Rented Mule wrote: »

Respectfully, I'm going to turn that question around ask 'who are the stars that he drafted?'. He's drafted players that probably wouldn't be playing with other teams within the divisions.

Again, he was hired to bridge the talent gap between the Bears and the Packers. He was supposed to be the 'super scout'. He isn't even close. He's filled out the roster with (I'll use your word here) 'decent' draft picks and undrafted free agents. Many of these players shouldn't even be on an NFL roster (UFAs).

This team has some of the worst special teams play that I have seen in my lifetime (I'm 46). Special teams are generally made up of those players mentioned.

I do completely agree with your other opinions on 'contracts' and 'coaching hires'. My point is that Emery needs to 'excel' in some aspect of his job. He is failing miserably across the boards.

Well the stars he drafted would be Alshon and Kyle Long, and I think in coming years also Fuller. I'm not sure what players you think wouldn't make it onto another roster, except for a few pressed into service due to huge numbers of injuries at some positions. But while we might agree that someone like Jared Allen was overpaid, Emery also brought in guys like Ratliff, Houston, Young, Slauson, etc that have done pretty well. I know that's not drafting but everyone believed we were in win now mode and those were good signings.

My point isn't that he should stay, I want him fired as much as you, but his drafting has been alright. Alright isn't good enough, of course, but we're taking about a team with virtually no real highlights. His drafting is a marked improvement on that of his predecessor, and a good few of his picks well be crucial elements of a rebuild I really hope Emery himself will not be part of.

Oh and I agree about the special teams, it's one of the more overlooked balls ups off this team this year. The signing of a returner who is able to take a knee at the back of the end zone and make some moves when the chance is on, was far too little too late, and the whole situation of their kick return up until Marianis arrival was a great summation of how badly run the team has been.

SameOleJay wrote: »

One of these days there's a book coming from someone inside on this shambles and I can't wait for it.

When players get around to autobiographies, that'll form a good chapter.

Last day of the season tomorrow (thank god), though Monday will probably be more interesting. Any predictions for what happens? (as opposed to what you want to happen)

My prediction...head-coach and 3 co-ordinators fired.

Emery survives, Cutler is the QB next season (just the contract & no great alternatives). Mike Shanahan is the head-coach (would be good in this case if we could poach Kyle Shanahan from the Browns).

Jesus the body language and communication between trestman and Cutler is shocking. The team must have totally broken down.

Sole possession of the 7th pick. That's some consolation at least.

Popcorn at the ready for tomorrow.

Tucker, Joe D and Trest gone. Emery and Jay stay.

Question is will the right coach be hired, or will a coach be hired to right/suit cutler. Cutler is a liability in that (and many other) respects.

Personally I want a full clean slate - everyone from mccsskeys down gone - highly unlikely but I can only hope - no point half as'sing it.

I be loads more to add but no real time at present.

Lets get realistic here. Is jay an elite QB? No, far from it.is jay a terrible QB? No, far from it. Has jay got a contract that massively over valued him? Yes.

Now I dont see any scenario where a cutler trade helps the Bears. Cutler is a good QB, not great, but good. Nothing wrong with that. Only 4 maybe 5 franchises have a great QB. The main issue here is the defence. Nearly everytime the offence took to the field they were chasing the game and jay was forcing throws. Take his turnovers away and his stats tell you he had very good season. Sort defence and maybe the offence wont force things as much and turnovers come down.

Back to trading cutler. It makes no sense to me. Any team that takes him will want pot sweetened because of his salary. Even if we find a team willing to take him unsweetened who do we get that is an upgrade? Hoyer? Give me a break. He wouldn't lace cutlers boots! Sanchez? God help us. Draft? 7th pick is great but neither winston nor mariota falls that far. For now whether we like it or not cutler seems to be the best QB we can have. I'm more interested in what Emery (assuming he stays) does in draft? Surely defence will be sorted but does he go with lineman linebacker or safety?

I'm thinking linebacker too. Although almost all mock drafts so far have bears lumping on alabama safety Collins. Bit early for a safety but hey all depends who is left on board at 7. My only worry is Emery seems to think he knows better than all the scouts and college experts and usually drafts an outsider. Just hoping he doesnt throw away 7th pick on 1 of his outsiders. For me he has to take the top linebacker talent and then in 2nd round look at safety

Anyone see the press conference with Mr Goodpractice yesterday? He said he fully expects to be head coach next year. If that's the case I will happily eat every shred of bears clothing I own.

Woah.

@ProFootballTalk: League source says word is tricking out of Chicago that G.M. Phil Emery has gotten the axe.

padraig_f wrote: »

There it is, wow.

@AdamSchefter: Bears have fired HC Phil Emery.

I'm actually kind of shocked by that.