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Will you vote in the gay marriage referendum?

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  • #1652
    thaidad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭thaidad


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    Every single mainstream party are in favour of same sex marriage...... Plus the only argument you have provided so far is that people will want to marry animals which is a pretty rubbish argument.

    Not animals trans species otherkin.

    They where born a man but are really a fox dragon. They deserve happiness too as their trueselves


  • #1653
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    thaidad wrote: »
    Your pro baby murder too?

    May The Lord be with you. Forever and ever. Amen


  • #1654
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    The Masculinist wrote: »
    Responses with emotive terminology are generally less mature in my view.

    But it is more mature to vote no to spite those responses ? are you serious ?


  • #1655
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    RayM wrote: »
    I suspect a lot of those who would be inclined not to vote yes won't bother either. Very, very few people are actively opposed to it.

    Well only the Irish Catholic church lad! But who are they! So who are numerous..the religous nuts or the gays and supporters?


  • #1656
    The Masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭The Masculinist


    david75 wrote: »
    If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal

    this attitude and apathy in general, is the one big opposition we face. The naysayers are a dying breed...thankfully.

    lets not be complacent..lets drag Ireland forward :)

    Excellent point. Don't forget that a referendum will only be called at the Government's discretion. And don't forget that gay marriage is being used as a political tool to buy votes in my view! But definitely, apathy is far too high, people need to take a much more active interest in politics.


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  • #1657
    The Masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭The Masculinist


    marienbad wrote: »
    But it is more mature to vote no to spite those responses ? are you serious ?

    Lisbon also had many important implications for the country but people still voted no in protest. People protest in different ways.


  • #1658
    Mahogany
    Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭Mahogany


    thaidad wrote: »
    Your pro baby murder too?

    Go back to the 19th century, or in the case of this backward conservative country, the 20th century.:rolleyes:


  • #1659
    fran17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭fran17


    david75 wrote: »
    Im too busy laughing at this to reply properly. And even after all that Fran, you still havent constructed a single sentence detailing why i should be lesser than you in the eyes of the state or its laws..
    and clearly i was joking and thats kinda the worst humour youll hear, laden with and information also.

    Ive yet to see you give us a single fact..only an uninformed opinion..

    Why would I need sentences when yours are clear to view.You and your social grouping are not the views of Ireland,traditional or modern,and that david is something you'll never understand.Be a love and answer me this,if you receive recognition in marriage,Is starting a family something you and your partner see as the next step in the integration process?


  • #1660
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Well only the Irish Catholic church lad! But who are they! So who are numerous..the religous nuts or the gays and supporters?

    Every person I know who calls themselves Catholic and whom I know well enough to discuss such things, bar one, do not like what their church has to say on any sexual or personal relationship issues and simply leave that out of their beliefs.


  • #1661
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    The Masculinist wrote: »
    Lisbon also had many important implications for the country but people still voted no in protest. People protest in different ways.

    People voted no to lisbon in protest of the treaty being ridiculous impossible to understand beareucratic gobbledegook. Hardly the same as what you are doing.


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  • #1662
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    The Masculinist wrote: »
    Lisbon also had many important implications for the country but people still voted no in protest. People protest in different ways.

    So you would deny a Civil Right you agree with because of the quality of some of the supporters ?


  • #1663
    thaidad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭thaidad


    marienbad wrote: »
    So you would deny a Civil Right you agree with because of the quality of some of the supporters ?

    That's his right


  • #1664
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    The Masculinist wrote: »
    Excellent point. Don't forget that a referendum will only be called at the Government's discretion. And don't forget that gay marriage is being used as a political tool to buy votes in my view! But definitely, apathy is far too high, people need to take a much more active interest in politics.


    I admire your optimism..this government are backing this referendum..people are angry and allergic to the government right now..

    that could make it not happen too


    I had richard bruton a number of years ago, doorstep me for the second lisbon treaty...i asked him why is it i cant marry my boyfriend, but i can in Spain, a far more devoutly catholic country...

    he told me that like it or not Ireland will be forced to adopt european laws on that matter and it will eventually happen.



    well thats now. so lets do it.


  • #1665
    The Masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭The Masculinist


    VinLieger wrote: »
    People voted no to lisbon in protest of the treaty being ridiculous impossible to understand beareucratic gobbledegook. Hardly the same as what you are doing.

    I am not saying it is the same, but similar. I was just trying to draw a parallel to explain one of the reasons why I am voting in this way.


  • #1666
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    thaidad wrote: »
    Why won't some gay men bottom are they secretly straight but too ugly to get a women? I mean if it's so good why are there gay men that will top only.
    thaidad wrote: »
    What's next for progess, multi wifes, no species marriage, furries getting to not be human but the species of their choice?
    thaidad wrote: »
    Your pro baby murder too?
    thaidad wrote: »
    Not animals trans species otherkin.

    They where born a man but are really a fox dragon. They deserve happiness too as their trueselves

    What is it about this topic that prompts people to register an account simply to post arseology and nonsense?


  • #1667
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    thaidad wrote: »
    That's his right

    Sure it is, but not very mature though is it ?


  • #1668
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Well only the Irish Catholic church lad! But who are they! So who are numerous..the religous nuts or the gays and supporters?

    I think most Catholics - even those who don't actively support marriage equality - are decent enough not to actively oppose it.

    There just aren't enough die-hard extremists out there to defeat this referendum.


  • #1669
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    Every person I know who calls themselves Catholic and whom I know well enough to discuss such things, bar one, do not like what the church has to say on any sexual or personal relationship issues and simply leave that out of their beliefs.

    I would say the same. The country is full of pick and mix Catholics. But they won't fill the ballot boxes cos they don't give a fup.


  • #1670
    thaidad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭thaidad


    endacl wrote: »
    What is it about this topic that prompts people to register an account simply to post arseology and nonsense?

    I registered my account to talk about a **** mother on parenting actually get your facts rights


  • #1671
    The Masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭The Masculinist


    marienbad wrote: »
    So you would deny a Civil Right you agree with because of the quality of some of the supporters ?

    As I posted previously, can you tell me why you believe that gay marriage is a (civil) right? What are you basing this on? The UN charter of human rights? What is your basis? I am not saying gay marriage is not a right, I was just unaware. I am open to persuasion!


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  • #1672
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    RayM wrote: »
    I think most Catholics - even those who don't actively support marriage equality - are decent enough not to actively oppose it.

    There just aren't enough die-hard extremists out there to defeat this referendum.

    Will be interesting to see. We seen a young woman die in a public hospital not too long ago because of these gob****es.


  • #1673
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    thaidad wrote: »
    I registered my account to talk about a **** mother on parenting actually get your facts rights

    Just generally abusive then?


  • #1674
    The Masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭The Masculinist


    endacl wrote: »
    Just generally abusive then?

    Can you demonstrate how this poster was abuse? This is what I am talking about, overreacting by the yes side which is ultimately stifling debate.


  • #1675
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,560 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    RayM wrote: »
    119 pages, and not one valid argument against marriage equality.

    I posted some links on page 118 just to have proper debate but posters decided to ignore that post and trade insults with the wind-up posters.


  • #1676
    The Masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭The Masculinist


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see. We seen a young woman die in a public hospital not too long ago because of these gob****es.

    Very off topic in my view


  • #1677
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    The Masculinist wrote: »
    As I posted previously, can you tell me why you believe that gay marriage is a (civil) right? What are you basing this on? The UN charter of human rights? What is your basis? I am not saying gay marriage is not a right, I was just unaware. I am open to persuasion!

    I am not interested in persuading you, you already know the right way to vote as you said so . What baffles me is you then went on to speak of the lack of maturity of some posters and this inclined you to vote no.

    For someone who obviously prides himself on his advanced views and maturity to take such an immature stance and not see it is puzzling.


  • #1678
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    RayM wrote: »
    119 pages, and not one valid argument against marriage equality.

    There genuinely isn't one.


  • #1679
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    MOD: I'm afraid we won't be seeing the comedy stylings of thaidad or Larry Wildman in this thread anymore. As for everyone else, there really isn't much reason for this thread to go on if it's just going to be a case of badgering. If you want to discuss the topic, discuss it with civility. If you can't be polite, don't post.


  • #1680
    BadMoonRising
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭BadMoonRising


    Yes i will vote in to legalise it, but I have a feeling that this may be another referendum where people just dont bother turning up to vote, young people especially, so I won't hold my breath on it passing


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  • #1681
    gizmo555
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    marienbad wrote: »
    So you would deny a Civil Right you agree with because of the quality of some of the supporters ?
    The Masculinist wrote: »
    As I posted previously, can you tell me why you believe that gay marriage is a (civil) right? What are you basing this on? The UN charter of human rights? What is your basis? I am not saying gay marriage is not a right, I was just unaware. I am open to persuasion!

    The European Court of Human Rights found in 2010 that same-sex marriage is is not a right under the European Convention on Human Rights.

    Of course, Ireland could decide to grant the right in the upcoming referendum, but it isn't the case that we are preventing people who want access to same-sex marriage from exercising a right to which they are already entitled.


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