North Korea Wins!!!

gizmo555 · 18-12-2014 07:34PM

Why is An Garda Síochána doing North Korea's dirty work anyway? Is it to distract attention from the Ian Bailey case?

North Korea has bitten back, in the form of a cyber-hacking group called Guardians of Peace, who may or may not have direct links to the government. They have released thousands of confidential email documents which horribly embarrassed Hollywood bigwigs with details of rows, executive pay and inappropriate remarks about African-American casting and President Obama. Then the Guardians of Peace declared war, losing the moral high-ground of non-violence with threats against US cinemas showing The Interview. It worked. The Interview has been yanked, and looks set to join the list of what Jean Cocteau called “films maudits”: cursed films.

Magico Gonzalez · 18-12-2014 07:36PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Pfft, North Korea is going to target every Cinema in Europe, America and Asia?

The movie will be released, sony have (probably) spent a lot of money making it.

It won't be released anytime soon. Sony have decided the reputational damage due to loss of life via a cinema attack is of greater impact than wiriting off the movie costs.

Have announced it won't be released on VOD either via netflix etc.
They've announced this so they won't go back on it too soon.

I suspect it might be leaked out into the torrent sites though, via official unofficial channels.

Menas · 18-12-2014 07:37PM

I am doing a project for Sony at the moment and I can guarantee this hack is not an internal ploy to get publicity. They have seriously ramped up their IT security over the past ten days over all companies in the Sony group. A lot of third party access has been cut off pending review. This whole thing is costing them a fortune in all sorts of areas.

Iwasfrozen · 18-12-2014 07:41PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

It won't be released anytime soon. Sony have decided the reputational damage due to loss of life via a cinema attack is of greater impact than wiriting off the movie costs.

Have announced it won't be released on VOD either via netflix etc.
They've announced this so they won't go back on it too soon.

I suspect it might be leaked out into the torrent sites though, via official unofficial channels.

And this is what we do now? Companies bend to the whims of dictators? Any attack on an American cinema that was linked to North Korea would be a very good excuse for regime change.

Firewalkwithme · 18-12-2014 07:44PM

Sony is a Japanese company and many seem to be forgetting that.

Iwasfrozen · 18-12-2014 07:46PM

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Sony is a Japanese company and many seem to be forgetting that.

We're not forgetting it. It's just utterly irrelevant.

Firewalkwithme · 18-12-2014 07:50PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

We're not forgetting it. It's just utterly irrelevant.

Really? In what way is it irrelevant?

Are you aware of the tensions that exist between NK and Japan? Where do you think would be the most likely and softer place to strike Sony, in the U.S. or in Japan where they are based?

If anyone thinks for a moment that an NK attack on the US would immediatly provoke an attack on NK, you are misinformed. Any incursion by the US into NK would be disasterous for the entire region and beyond.

expectationlost · 18-12-2014 08:12PM

Shenshen wrote: »

Would you have had the same objections to "The Great Dictator", then?

did the great dictator revolve around murdering hitler?

Iwasfrozen · 18-12-2014 08:16PM

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Really? In what way is it irrelevant?

Are you aware of the tensions that exist between NK and Japan? Where do you think would be the most likely and softer place to strike Sony, in the U.S. or in Japan where they are based?

If anyone thinks for a moment that an NK attack on the US would immediatly provoke an attack on NK, you are misinformed. Any incursion by the US into NK would be disasterous for the entire region and beyond.

It's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Yes I am aware of the atrocities Japan committed during its occupation of Korea. I'm also aware the Orwellian North Korean government likes to stroke hatred of Japan to externalize the frustration of its citizens.
An attack on an American cinema that could be linked back to North Korea would be 9/11 all over again. Regime change would be on the table, if not through direct invasion then through a cancellation of western aid.

super_furry · 18-12-2014 08:18PM

Score one for the little guy!

Cos he's short. Y'know like?

Magico Gonzalez · 18-12-2014 08:28PM

Simple risk calculation, Sony is a business. They cannot afford to be linked to anything which directly or indirectly would provoke terrorist attacks anywhere.

There might be legal recourse open to the victims, they would certainly have experience damage to their brand.

From a corporate perspective it's not worth it, nothing to do with right/wrong etc. Pure business decision.

NoMore MrNiceGuy · 18-12-2014 08:32PM

expectationlost wrote: »

did the great dictator revolve around murdering hitler?

So I take it you would have been opposed mid-30's to a movie killing the Fuherer. Good man.

I like to think I wouldn't have.

expectationlost · 18-12-2014 08:45PM

Shenshen wrote: »

Because it's way too subtle for North Korea.

North Korea doesn't try and embarass people it doesn't like, it would try and destroy them. Releasing a few emails about untalented actors doesn't even get close.

I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that I'm convinced it was Sony's marketing department, but I would have doubts either way.

they are following the American example, pay or direct hackers to do some of your silly dirty work.

expectationlost · 18-12-2014 09:22PM

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

So I take it you would have been opposed mid-30's to a movie killing the Fuherer. Good man.

I like to think I wouldn't have.

I was asking why take the Great Dictator as an comparison, if it wasn't about the killing of hitler.

Lord Trollington · 18-12-2014 09:24PM

Didn't "the guardians of the peace" state that they had one more massive bombshell to realese about Sony unless the film was pulled?

I believe these people have massive story about Sony to release and Sony decided to pull the film because of this.

There is absolutely no threat to America, its cinemas or people from anyone In North Korea. I would imagine anyone who has escaped NK is glad to be out of there rather than working under cover for them.

Kim Kardashi Un · 18-12-2014 09:33PM

On behalf of my country folk, I'm delighted.

mikeym · 18-12-2014 09:39PM

Hope Matt Stone and Trey Parker release a New Team America Movie based on Kim Jong Un

expectationlost · 18-12-2014 10:49PM

mikeym wrote: »

Hope Matt Stone and Trey Parker release a New Team America Movie based on Kim Jong Un

paramount has banned showings of team america http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/12/18/paramount-bans-showing-team-america.html

ballsymchugh · 19-12-2014 02:24AM

Gatling wrote: »

The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,

Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well

you mean it would be like 9/11 times 100??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcZ6eJoxeE

Iwasfrozen · 19-12-2014 03:11AM

ballsymchugh wrote: »

you mean it would be like 9/11 times 100??

Surely 9/11 times 100 would be 900/11? :P

B.A._Baracus · 19-12-2014 04:17AM

It is a weird situation.
Sony pictures were going ahead with the release of the film. They didn't care about threats. But since most of the American cinemas pulled out of showing it.... I guess you can't really blame sony for just pulling it out altogether.

While I think the movie will still see the light of day it's not like Sony could just switch gears and sell the rights to TV or Netflix as aforementioned companies would pull the same retraction. Personally I expect this to get 'leaked' (ahem, not by anyone in north korea) to the internet quite soon.

policarp · 19-12-2014 04:26AM

Next year Sony will make stuff.

Good Stuff.

Riddle101 · 19-12-2014 04:46AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXeqmBVRlIw

ZiabR · 19-12-2014 09:36AM

Essentially Sony have given in to terrorist threats of 9/11 type consequences... disgusting. It has been reported that the hack came from within North Korea and yet nothing will be done...

Sony are in the news almost every week now with negative stories. The North Koreans have information on 47000 Sony employees, which means that Sony have law suits coming out of their ears. Of course they are going to cancel the film. If they release it, the North Koreans will make public ALL of the employee records and Sony may as well shutdown.

An International company the size of Sony being held to ransom by and completely insane regime ruled by an absolutely psychopathic leader. Did you guys know that recently Kim banned anyone of the 25 million population having the same haircut as him? If you are found with the same haircut... well... Clearly he is a fair and supreme leader...

jimgoose · 19-12-2014 09:48AM

Well I for one would like to welcome our new, completely, dribblingly insane overlords, who are exactly the same as their cousins to the South except they don't do anything useful.

The_Valeyard · 19-12-2014 06:32PM

See the FBI has formally blamed North Korea.
America said they will retaliate. Not sure how though, maybe they will hack them.

AboutaWeekAgo · 19-12-2014 06:37PM

In another strange twist Game Of Thrones author George RR Martin has offered to screen the movie in his own cinema

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/game-of-thrones-author-george-rr-martin-offers-to-screen-the-interview-in-cinema-he-owns-9935152.html

Wompa1 · 19-12-2014 06:40PM

flanzer wrote: »

"America will NEVER give in to the demands of terrorists"

.......... unless of course they're a group of North Korean nerdlingers

Not America, Sony..also, Sony is actually a Japanese company.

Iwasfrozen · 19-12-2014 06:51PM

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

In another strange twist Game Of Thrones author George RR Martin has offered to screen the movie in his own cinema

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/game-of-thrones-author-george-rr-martin-offers-to-screen-the-interview-in-cinema-he-owns-9935152.html

That dude just gets better and better.

BlutendeRabe · 19-12-2014 07:14PM

Anyone screening the movie privately?

We could all go and make an evening of it.

North Korea Wins!!!

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