North Korea Wins!!!

The_Valeyard

Sony will now not release its new film 'The interview' about assassination of Jim Jong Un.

Sony fears more hacking and a backlash.

Pity looked like a good film!

myshirt

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

mad muffin

That's it. Christmas is cancelled!:mad:

JONJO THE MISER

What idiots idea was it to make the film anyway.

The_Valeyard

myshirt wrote: »

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

Yes it did. Watch the trailer. Looked hilarious.

cloud493

What? I'm gutted now, it looked pretty good

Tail Docker

Was Jim Kims brother? Or is Jim the father of Kim, the wrong un?

Duckworth_Luas

North Korea also win 2015 FIFFA World Cup

DeadHand

Miserable nation.

If they had oil and weren't in China's back yard we'd have probably seen some gallant attempt at regime change by the West long ago.

As it is, it suits China and the West to leave it as a hellish, zombified no-man's land regardless of the abject misery this causes any human being unlucky enough to be born there.

Geopolitics at it's most cynical.

hmmm

That's a very dangerous precedent.

Is this the first time a company has been almost wiped out by hackers? This should be interesting.

barry181091

I don't think they said they weren't going to release it, just not to theatres.

As The Verge said, their only option is to put it on the 'net. Buckets of good will for a free release too. That wouldn't pay the bills of course.

AboutaWeekAgo

Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.

Yellowblackbird

On the plus side it's going ahead as a broadway musical.

flanzer

"America will NEVER give in to the demands of terrorists"

.......... unless of course they're a group of North Korean nerdlingers

My name is URL

I'm still not convinced that this isn't all just a marketing ploy.

And I'm not convinced that North Korea are responsible for the Sony hack either. Seems a lot more like an inside job.

A Primal Nut

DeadHand wrote: »

Miserable nation.

If they had oil and weren't in China's back yard we'd have probably seen some gallant attempt at regime change by the West long ago.

As it is, it suits China and the West to leave it as a hellish, zombified no-man's land regardless of the abject misery this causes any human being unlucky enough to be born there.

Geopolitics at it's most cynical.

Are you suggesting NATO and China should invade? Can't see that ending well.

DeadHand

Things could be worse.

Had they made a movie and planned a second parodying Islam, for instance, some of those involved could well be murdered and the least we'd see is wide scale unrest on the streets of Europe and the Middle East.

Yet, no publicly demonstrated anger by the Muslim community in Europe over the 141 mostly infant Muslims murdered in Pakistan anywhere near the fury that greeted the depiction of the prophet in a cartoon... Funny that...

Some things are safer to make a joke of than others.

DeadHand

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Are you suggesting NATO and China should invade? Can't see that ending well.

I'm not suggesting anything just pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that some nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria) are deemed more worthy of "liberation" by the West than others (North Korea, Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia) depending on economic, strategic and political considerations.

hmmm

My name is URL wrote: »

I'm still not convinced that this isn't all just a marketing ploy.

Up to the point they released salaries, SSNs & employee medical history I'd have agreed with you, but it's clearly malicious now.

Kristopherus

Who did the hacking? China or N.Korea?

A Primal Nut

DeadHand wrote: »

I'm not suggesting anything just pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that some nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria) are deemed more worthy of "liberation" by the West than others (North Korea, Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia) depending on economic, strategic and political considerations.

Picking your battles is good strategy, not hypocrisy.

My name is URL

hmmm wrote: »

Up to the point they released salaries, SSNs & employee medical history I'd have agreed with you, but it's clearly malicious now.

Well I mean an inside job would be equally malicious.

The amount of data that was compromised is huge. It would have taken weeks or months to do it remotely and the chances of it going undetected would very very low.

I don't understand. North Korean hackers are threatening to bomb the states? Aren't they not even allowed to leave NK?

Custardpi

Pity, wouldn't have minded going to see it, though I don't think it would have been a masterpiece or anything. Hopefully someone will leak a copy onto the interwebz.

Thrill

Theater chains said earlier today that they would not show the film given the threats made against them.

Sony were left with no choice.

wes

Throw it up online for free. Hell throw it up on torrent sites, and watch the film be seen by far more people than it would have been otherwise. North Korea can hardly hack the entire Internet.

Custardpi

Are there really sleeper cells of North Korean agents in the West ready to strike on the command of Kim? I know they'd have a few sympathisers here & there in the nuttier fringes of the far left but have never heard anything to suggest they'd have an actual terrorist capability.

The_Valeyard

Custardpi wrote: »

Are there really sleeper cells of North Korean agents in the West ready to strike on the command of Kim? I know they'd have a few sympathisers here & there in the nuttier fringes of the far left but have never heard anything to suggest they'd have an actual terrorist capability.

I doubt it. Could be they have some serious dirt on the top Sony CEO s

endacl

myshirt wrote: »

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

Serving?!?

shruikan2553

DeadHand wrote: »

Things could be worse.

Had they made a movie and planned a second parodying Islam, for instance, some of those involved could well be murdered and the least we'd see is wide scale unrest on the streets of Europe and the Middle East.

Yet, no publicly demonstrated anger by the Muslim community in Europe over the 141 mostly infant Muslims murdered in Pakistan anywhere near the fury that greeted the depiction of the prophet in a cartoon... Funny that...

Some things are safer to make a joke of than others.

I think there's a thread in bargain alerts that's missing any references to Islam. Better get over there quick.

Bongalongherb

Never mind them, we just better keep Russia happy or then we will all have problems.

expectationlost

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.

and then they hack netflix

Shenshen

My name is URL wrote: »

I'm still not convinced that this isn't all just a marketing ploy.

And I'm not convinced that North Korea are responsible for the Sony hack either. Seems a lot more like an inside job.

This sums up my suspicions about the whole thing nicely.

They're not going to release it to cinemas, but from what I hear will release it for download and on DVD.
This whole episode about the hacks and the embarassing emails has made sure that this film is the most talked about film this year, when from the previews I would have filed it under "Another Team America one, probably not all that funny anyway".

If I was cynically inclined, I would propose that the whole North Korea hack was actually done by Sony themselves, as a publicity stunt for the film.
If so, it's sheere brilliance and certainly has worked. Kudos to whoever thought that one up.

Staplor

Now they can make a film about a movie that nobody could see because of ......... terrorism. Queue many shots of the American Flag and Freedom Fries. 'Merica *uck yeah

OU812

If they were clever & wanted to strike back, they'd cut their losses & release it as a free download. Would be viewed by far more people then

NoMore MrNiceGuy

My name is URL wrote: »

Well I mean an inside job would be equally malicious.

The amount of data that was compromised is huge. It would have taken weeks or months to do it remotely and the chances of it going undetected would very very low.

Firstly that's not true. Computers are fast. Text data is small.

Secondly clearly embarrassing stuff was released.

Thirdly what kind of publicity stunt would endup in promoting a movie which then isn't released?

Theres paranoia and theres paranoia.

The Hill Billy

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Sony will now not release its new film 'The interview' about assassination of Jim Jong Un.

Sony fears more hacking and a backlash.

Pity looked like a good film!

The documentary version will be much better & more satisfying.

NoMore MrNiceGuy

Shenshen wrote: »

This sums up my suspicions about the whole thing nicely.

They're not going to release it to cinemas, but from what I hear will release it for download and on DVD.
This whole episode about the hacks and the embarassing emails has made sure that this film is the most talked about film this year, when from the previews I would have filed it under "Another Team America one, probably not all that funny anyway".

If I was cynically inclined, I would propose that the whole North Korea hack was actually done by Sony themselves, as a publicity stunt for the film.
If so, it's sheere brilliance and certainly has worked. Kudos to whoever thought that one up.

Ack don't be utterly stupid. Marketing departments around the world are not going to start releasing private embarrassing emails of their executives and everybody's SSNs for publicity to sell a product which isn't then going to sell in its major market.

Why do people think North korea wouldn't do this?

Shenshen

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

Ack don't be utterly stupid. Marketing departments around the world are not going to start releasing private embarrassing emails of their executives and everybody's SSNs for publicity to sell a product which isn't then going to sell in its major market.

Why do people think North korea wouldn't do this?

Because it's way too subtle for North Korea.

North Korea doesn't try and embarass people it doesn't like, it would try and destroy them. Releasing a few emails about untalented actors doesn't even get close.

I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that I'm convinced it was Sony's marketing department, but I would have doubts either way.

conorhal

myshirt wrote: »

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

I might agree with you if the serving leader in question wasn't a mass murdering sociopath. Your comment is a bit like complaining loudly that Mighty Mouse would regularly beat up Hitler in american cartoons during the war.

Allyall

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

Netflix might end up buying the rights, would be a win win for both parties.

I can only imagine the trouble that would cause for them.

NoMore MrNiceGuy

Shenshen wrote: »

Because it's way too subtle for North Korea.

North Korea doesn't try and embarass people it doesn't like, it would try and destroy them. Releasing a few emails about untalented actors doesn't even get close.

I'm not saying they didn't do it, nor that I'm convinced it was Sony's marketing department, but I would have doubts either way.

North Korea is not "subtle".

Releasing internal documents is illegal and a firable offence. Releasing SSN numbers is also a huge issue. No marketing dept is going to suggest that internal emails be released, many critical of talent, along with scripts and personal information of executives and others to promote a movie. That's quite frankly crazy talk.

A dictatorship getting involved in cyberwar is not fantastical.

Shenshen

myshirt wrote: »

Did it?

A film about murdering a serving leader of a country with c.25million people.

Would you have had the same objections to "The Great Dictator", then?

Shenshen

NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote: »

North Korea is not "subtle".

Releasing internal documents is illegal and a firable offence. Releasing SSN numbers is also a huge issue. No marketing dept is going to suggest that internal emails be released, many critical of talent, along with scripts and personal information of executives and others to promote a movie. That's quite frankly crazy talk.

A dictatorship getting involved in cyberwar is not fantastical.

That's what I mean, it's too suble a move. Nevermind the illegality, when's the last time North Korea cared about that? But they could have done far more and serious damage, and didn't.

fryup

cloud493 wrote: »

What? I'm gutted now, it looked pretty good

thought it looked crap, a blessing in disguise maybe

thank you north korea

AndyBoBandy

Sony should do what U2 did with their new album, and forcibly put it on every device going!
Now theres a way to rile everyone up and get free publicity!

uck51js9zml2yt

I'm amazed (maybe not) that Sony hadn't tightened up their server security.
If get hacked once is bad but to be hacked again is irresponsible. The hustlers deserves to go down the pan for that. At the very least their cyber security chiefs head should roll. (there is no inferrance to Muslim extremists in this post )

Gatling

The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,


Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well

Xios

There a leaked clip I saw last night, the film looks amazing.

Kim Jong Un is flying away in a helicopter. In super slow motion a tank shell hits the tank, explodes and you slowly see kim's clothes start to burn as his face skin wobbles in the blast wave before fire envelopes his face and what can only be brain matter flies out of frame. All this is set to a rather pleasant acoustic version of Katy Perry's Firework.

Custardpi

Gatling wrote: »

The reason it was pulled had nothing to do with the hacks .the film was pulled because there were threats of unleashing attacks worse than 9\11 on cinema chains whom showed it, they even went as far to threatening residents who lived near cinemas to move away for there own good,


Odd part America is now beem threatened with state sponsored terrorism that wont sit well

But are those threats realistic? Do the NKs really have the capability to carry out terrorist acts abroad? Maybe in Asia, but in the US?

OU812

Imagine if there was no real movie, that they just filmed a trailer & that this is part of a mocumentary movie they're making about the events...