Cork GAA Discussion Thread

seventh7 wrote: »

Agreed 100% Kilkenny are the benchmark. If you want to reach the heights that Kilkenny have scaled then not only to you have to use their template you have to go above and beyond.
Our system has produced memorable players and numerous superstars of the past few deacdes and we can only look and admire what Cody has done in Kilkenny. He has taken the game to a new level with a breed of hurler that we would snub in Cork. Given the training sessions in Nowlan park he has fashioned a breed of direct powerful hurlers who take no nonsense and definetly no prisoners. We need to be ruthless and up the tempo across all grades we need to forge warriors if we are to compete, equal and surpass kilkenny. I like you cringe at the club games I look on in shock at the type of player we push through at underage level. We as a county are not learning we will continue to make the same critical errors. We talk about hurlers who need the top of the ground and all this rubbish, its an excuse for weakness and our hurlers are weak. Our clubs game are weak and our underage is no better only last years u15 who were an exceptionally big physical side made the grade. No team fears us. we used to put dread into opponents because we combined finese with power somewhere along the line the finese took over and the power was lost. I watched the minors train in CIT on sunday morning. If you are expecting some reveolution to come out of this group don't hold your breath, wristy, speedy yes but pace and power not with the group I saw thats for sure. Its back to basics for Cork hurling the beautiful game we have in our head has moved on and we are need amend our thinking to cope.

I hate to agree but your spot on like wacko was also

As wacko said kerry live breed football kilkenny same exceptional standards beat them

Top top coach.
One of the best.

Not as good in manager role
but if a good manager appointed JW will have the players fit and ready for any challenge.
Who will be manager?

Orizio wrote: »

It was something like or 12th championship game this year, not normal. Two Lawtons have been going almost non-stop for two years now.

Going by the radio we were both beaten by a better team and it also sounded like the long year had caught up with us big time.

Anyway we'll be grand in intermediate. Guaranteed to get Fr. O'Neills in the first round as well.

Amazing you weren't even at it yet excuses are laughable

Lawtons going non stop are you serious don't you want me name six players with as much mileage but still performing

Simply fact of matter this was never a great side good at best and actually Lawton way way over rated

Hoe many games did Grenagh have last year

Get real
Cork got beaten by Laois under sixteen and I re post it you want. You said five point defeat was awful for young lads and cork minors this year
Ye get completely destroyed by thirteen points and bad luck etc etc
That's incorrect as other poster had honesty to say they were well beaten on day
Simple point is ye won county but not this level if you think Lawton is cork material you have no idea what intercounty standard is with respect.

No need what so ever for the confrontational tone.

Orizio correct me if I'm wrong but hasnt one of the Lawtons been playing with a groin injury from well before the Cloughduv games.

Id imagine your pretty happy with how the year went no matter what the result at the weekend.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Amazing you weren't even at it yet excuses are laughable

Lawtons going non stop are you serious don't you want me name six players with as much mileage but still performing

Simply fact of matter this was never a great side good at best and actually Lawton way way over rated

Hoe many games did Grenagh have last year

Get real
Cork got beaten by Laois under sixteen and I re post it you want. You said five point defeat was awful for young lads and cork minors this year
Ye get completely destroyed by thirteen points and bad luck etc etc
That's incorrect as other poster had honesty to say they were well beaten on day
Simple point is ye won county but not this level if you think Lawton is cork material you have no idea what intercounty standard is with respect.

Indie I always find people your option High moral ground interesting, everybody questions thinks too much and zooms in when he's so called confronting but it's quite normal no one defends me this forum time and time again when others as you say confront me


Read Sunday where it's appalling orizo suggested I cork man wanted castle to loose build them up to slaughter them


No no Thinkstoomuch can be insulted as wanted cork team loose no one defends him. To say bout me I's imo insult
I love all cork.
Wait for the usual suspects now to Laud in against me no one defend thinks though


I was accused Sunday before I even posted of wanting them to loose when I fully praised and support them all week no bother you can't go match I feel for you geuinely but imo you weren't at match geuinely you can't judge how bad they played
Ah stop yes he had injury but wasn't that bad
Numerous cork players injured all year and played fine
Orizo know pa cronin injured all year and still criticised him



Ballyhea I critised but they had two main forwards missing cork standard but we're humiliated by thirteen points
Simple point and he does all time he will ruthless critise other teams with one line statement fair enough but he's own club immune valid critism


You didn't acknowledge they played awful.
All we hear is excuses.
You didn't want hear excuses regards glen rovers Being destroyed but jesus everything goes for your home town club
For a man that didn't like club bias from city lads your unbelievably biased towards your own club and fail give realistic assessment.

My point with Grenagh you twist conviently is Grenagh had loads games away home last year unlike castle yet put in performance

Castle simply did not give a performance.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Indie I always find people your option High moral ground interesting, everybody questions thinks too much and zooms in when he's so called confronting but it's quite normal no one defends me this forum time and time again when others as you say confront me


Read Sunday where it's appalling orizo suggested I cork man wanted castle to loose build them up to slaughter them


No no Thinkstoomuch can be insulted as wanted cork team loose no one defends him. To say bout me I's imo insult
I love all cork.
Wait for the usual suspects now to Laud in against me no one defend thinks though


I was accused Sunday before I even posted of wanting them to loose when I fully praised and support them all week no bother you can't go match I feel for you geuinely but imo you weren't at match geuinely you can't judge how bad they played
Ah stop yes he had injury but wasn't that bad
Numerous cork players injured all year and played fine
Orizo know pa cronin injured all year and still criticised him



Ballyhea I critised but they had two main forwards missing cork standard but we're humiliated by thirteen points
Simple point and he does all time he will ruthless critise other teams with one line statement fair enough but he's own club immune valid critism


You didn't acknowledge they played awful.
All we hear is excuses.
You didn't want hear excuses regards glen rovers Being destroyed but jesus everything goes for your home town club
For a man that didn't like club bias from city lads your unbelievably biased towards your own club and fail give realistic assessment.

My point with Grenagh you twist conviently is Grenagh had loads games away home last year unlike castle yet put in performance

Castle simply did not give a performance.

Well said tinks.
Where are all the people who agree that you showed no animosity towards castlemartyr?
Come on lads everyone who agrees that ttm1 has been fair and balanced in his comments on all clubs speak up now.

Agree with Goalmouth, its all about opinions and differing opinions. No such thing as right and wrong views just different perspectives. For what its worth TTM and not to patronise him, has a very clear understanding of Cork gaa and his attention to underage hurling is second to none. He has spotted players long before others Jermey Saich being one. I was a doubter but having seen the kid a few times now I must say he may be spot on.

I could have gave more detailed post but no point, be accused of a rant then.
Can't win either way.
In cork some as proven here you can't critise what's plain to see. You do your seen as the enemy within. Nothing farther from the truth.
But then people try paint flawed perception you. When all you want is highly standard kilkenny and kerry aspire to in cork.
That was only ever my agenda what's best cork gaa no one single club.
I'm guilty as charged in that respect.
Cork attitudes must change in gaa.
On that note wonderful credit to Tyrone for appointment ist chair person woman gaa.
Brilliant news.
As seen by difficultly Tracey Kennedy who's absolutely brilliant and credit to cork will imo have in getting in vice chair role I can't imo ever see cork person woman getting in a chair person role.
It shouldn't matter whether there men or women.
Imo their equal.
All matters is can they do job yes they can and imo even better some male counterparts.
It would be truly historic if Tracy got in but imo unlikely.


Ill let others post away now.
I'll take a back seat for a while.

Indie. wrote: »

Dont know what that high moral ground is about.

Simply asking that the tone of some posts be kept less confrontational and the thread will be a happier place! Not meaning to be back seat modding or anything. Its a online forum. Lighten up a bit.

He is extremely well-informed but he seems to take criticism very personally for whatever reason, and has particular problems with certain clubs/players.

Anyway the information he provides is invaluable.

TTM has a great knowledge of cork gaa and especially cork juvenile gaa. Keep it up.

SchoolsFan wrote: »

Midleton CBS take on Rochestown on Friday at 1.30pm in Pairc Ui Caoimh in the semi final of this prestigious competition. Big chance for Midleton to atone for their Harty Cup exit. Will they stick with the team formation and players they have used to date or will the change it up as they did against CSN last week.

Roachestown can make a huge statement and really signal their arrival as an 'A' school. I feel that they were in the weakest Harty group, so Friday will tell a lot. Personally I see them as real contenders for the Harty.

I'll be at the game so I will throw up a post that evening.

Yes team selection will be very interesting bring back the lads who lost the last two Harty games or stick with the lads who won last week, maybe a mixture of both would be the best course create a bit of competition and fire in the belly.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I hate to agree but your spot on like wacko was also

As wacko said kerry live breed football kilkenny same exceptional standards beat them

Good post Kilkenny are always seen as on the way out but every year back they came strong and powerful a couple of years ago they were all slow and could not run did not look slow to me winning again this year Cody always seems to find a way of improving and moving forward, underage to him is only a stepping stone to the bigger picture.

UCC V CIT in the Sigerson first round

Hurling group contains: GMIT, NUIG and UL. They should top the group none of them are overly good in my opinion.