Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

MarkAnthony · 06-12-2014 04:33PM

Getting out and giving them a few slaps doesn't effect your car insurance does it?

Hal1 · 06-12-2014 10:30PM

bladespin · 06-12-2014 11:33PM

Erm, bike rider but certainly not a biker.

Just to be clear.

Hal1 · 06-12-2014 11:38PM

Crystal.

Kramer · 07-12-2014 02:21PM

Why have you described the cyclist as a wanker? Was cycling prohibited on that stretch of road at that time or was he doing something untoward?
In your video his rear light is visible 6 seconds before you pass him. Dashcam footage is always poor in low light so he would have been even more visible in reality.
I didn't see any cycle lanes & he was cycling well out into the lane but the biggest problem I would have with your footage is the poor visibility caused by work-site floodlights pointing towards oncoming traffic.
Is this the new RSA safety initiative - blinding drivers with floodlights?

Obviously, if I'm incorrect, please disregard my comments

Hal1 · 07-12-2014 02:45PM

I've no issue with the cyclist or cycling. It was the way he was swerving between lanes and this made his intentions unclear. There was no hand signal from him either but he got one from me

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Alias G · 07-12-2014 03:01PM

The cyclist swerving is not discernible in that vid.

Hal1 · 07-12-2014 04:10PM

I could see him from a distance back, but not discernible in the vid due to low light conditions.

bladebrew · 07-12-2014 04:21PM

The cyclist is heading for the m50 aswell which is a bit worrying! Where was he heading?

Hal1 · 07-12-2014 04:59PM

There is a lane for the city centre further on up the road. It's a bit of a mess so you really need to pay attention.

fullstop · 07-12-2014 05:03PM

bladebrew wrote: »

The cyclist is heading for the m50 aswell which is a bit worrying! Where was he heading?

Could be heading off the slip to Monastery Road direction...

CatFromHue · 07-12-2014 07:47PM

Hal1 wrote: »

I could see him from a distance back, but not discernible in the vid due to low light conditions.

You can see his light from a good bit back on the vid, can't see him swerving though.

I don't see what the problem is though.

Hal1 · 07-12-2014 07:51PM

If there had been more traffic there could have been a problem. He wasn't exactly keeping left.

listermint · 07-12-2014 08:03PM

Kramer wrote: »

Why have you described the cyclist as a wanker? Was cycling prohibited on that stretch of road at that time or was he doing something untoward?
In your video his rear light is visible 6 seconds before you pass him. Dashcam footage is always poor in low light so he would have been even more visible in reality.
I didn't see any cycle lanes & he was cycling well out into the lane but the biggest problem I would have with your footage is the poor visibility caused by work-site floodlights pointing towards oncoming traffic.
Is this the new RSA safety initiative - blinding drivers with floodlights?

Obviously, if I'm incorrect, please disregard my comments

I would describe anyone as a wanker cycling on the busiest dual carriageway in the country in the middle of a lane with black clothes on a black bike with just a reflector on the rear.

That constitutes a wanker. Does this person not have family they want to return to?

Absolute tool moron and you would be sure its someone elses fault for barely making him out in the dark.

That idiot needs to see that footage then go and purchase himself some appropriate safety gear if he chooses to cycle on this stretch of road.

Alias G · 07-12-2014 08:07PM

Hal1 wrote: »

If there had been more traffic there could have been a problem. He wasn't exactly keeping left.

Possibly because he didn't want motorists to pass him too closely. Unfortunately due to the current design of the road, he doesn't seem to many options other than to share a busy lane with motorised traffic. By taking the lane he forced you to go around him giving plenty of space rather than pass him more closely. It is widely acknowledged as good cycling practice to cycle in such a defensive manner. All you had to do was assess the situation, slow down if necessary, and overtake when safe. What is the big deal in that.

listermint · 07-12-2014 08:19PM

Alias G wrote: »

Possibly because he didn't want motorists to pass him too closely. Unfortunately due to the current design of the road, he doesn't seem to many options other than to share a busy lane with motorised traffic. By taking the lane he forced you to go around him giving plenty of space rather than pass him more closely. It is widely acknowledged as good cycling practice to cycle in such a defensive manner. All you had to do was assess the situation, slow down if necessary, and overtake when safe. What is the big deal in that.

"That idiot needs to see that footage then go and purchase himself some appropriate safety gear if he chooses to cycle on this stretch of road."

rizzodun · 07-12-2014 09:16PM

listermint wrote: »

"That idiot needs to see that footage then go and purchase himself some appropriate safety gear if he chooses to cycle on this stretch of road."

That is a light the cyclist has, not a reflector, and while I think he should have hi-vis just to make sure he's seen the light can be seen well in advance that the camera driver could have moved out a little earlier to avoid him, it's known that not commanding a traffic lane can cause people to squeeze by increasing the chance of getting clipped, I have had this happen to me first hand.

So here's the thing, he probably be more visible, but can be seen early enough in this vid.

He probably could do with being a bit more left of centre, but certainly not in a position to be pinned to the curb.

That road (if as busy as I think), should have an alternative route for bikes, but this is Ireland after all.

The driver deliberately buzzing a person on a bike knowing that should they collide the cyclist will come off worse is every bit of a wanker as the person they are alluding the cyclist is.

I think maybe all car drivers should have to commute daily for one week by bike before getting their license, might give them a better understanding of pulling crap like this. Since I got back road cycling it's opened my eyes to the type of people on the roads who detest cyclists, as if the idiots showing themselves up to other motorists isn't enough in some of these videos.

To end, cyclists don't cover themselves in glory either, but every prick cyclist who thinks the rules of the road don't apply to them are hated by proper cyclists just as much as they are by motorists, it puts the rest of us in danger when the red mist drops.

Alias G · 07-12-2014 10:13PM

listermint wrote: »

"That idiot needs to see that footage then go and purchase himself some appropriate safety gear if he chooses to cycle on this stretch of road."

He has a light not a reflector. The poster even stated in one of his posts that he saw him from well back the road. The poster also admitted that the poor camera lighting makes the footage less clear than it actually was. It may be a busy dual carriage way but the speed limit reduces to 60 on that stretch. No excuses for not overtaking the cyclist safely. My definition of a wanker is someone who thinks their mode of transport gives them the right to run another mode off the road. No excuses for the cyclist not having reflective gear either but that's not a legal requirement.

00sully · 07-12-2014 10:50PM

cycling through the park the other day. posted in cycling forum but it's appropriate for here I reckon. woman goes straight through and over the roundabout! was icy too I was going slow enough but still went into a skid

gutteruu · 07-12-2014 10:50PM

Let natural selection do its thing. Cycling a black bike wearing black cloths on a black night on black roads. Humanity will survive without these wanke....guys

Canis Lupus · 07-12-2014 10:59PM

gutteruu wrote: »

Let natural selection do its thing. Cycling a black bike wearing black cloths on a black night on black roads. Humanity will survive without these wanke....guys

With a light and was seen regardless of all the black because of the light..... but don't let that get in the way of your rant.

MarkAnthony · 07-12-2014 11:14PM

00sully wrote: »

cycling through the park the other day. posted in cycling forum but it's appropriate for here I reckon. woman goes straight through and over the roundabout! was icy too I was going slow enough but still went into a skid

I think you'll find most of us equal opportunity abusers in relation to poor driving.

Did you forward the footage on to traffic watch/guards, looks like you can see the reg plates.

CatFromHue · 07-12-2014 11:27PM

Alias G wrote: »

He has a light not a reflector. The poster even stated in one of his posts that he saw him from well back the road. The poster also admitted that the poor camera lighting makes the footage less clear than it actually was. It may be a busy dual carriage way but the speed limit reduces to 60 on that stretch. No excuses for not overtaking the cyclist safely. My definition of a wanker is someone who thinks their mode of transport gives them the right to run another mode off the road. No excuses for the cyclist not having reflective gear either but that's not a legal requirement.

yeah i agree.

on the footage you can see the cyclist a full 5 seconds before the driver passes him, so in real life he was probable visable earlier than that.

rameire · 07-12-2014 11:56PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdjmXeGLNYs

this guy just came out onto the N7 inbound.
after he went straight into my path in lane two he continued on into lane 3 and eventually gave me the finger.

Spook_ie · 08-12-2014 07:11AM

00sully wrote: »

cycling through the park the other day. posted in cycling forum but it's appropriate for here I reckon. woman goes straight through and over the roundabout! was icy too I was going slow enough but still went into a skid

<Snipped video>

Hate to think how fast you cycle when your NOT going slow enough!

Anyhows, I suspect that the main problem would be the lack of visual acuity given by the sun being low on the horizon

Odyssey 2005 · 08-12-2014 10:02AM

rameire wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdjmXeGLNYs

this guy just came out onto the N7 inbound.
after he went straight into my path in lane two he continued on into lane 3 and eventually gave me the figure.

What figure did you get?:p

CramCycle · 08-12-2014 10:13AM

Spook_ie wrote: »

Anyhows, I suspect that the main problem would be the lack of visual acuity given by the sun being low on the horizon

I remember a similar reason being given to a Garda on Thomas St. Lady ran a red and when the Garda pulled her in she said she couldn't make out the lights because of the low sun. To which the Garda correctly, facepalmed, then replied, if you can't see because of the sun, you shouldn't be driving.

His response at the time was quite witty but I can't remember it, pretend what I said was witty with the same general gist and you get the idea.

00sully · 08-12-2014 11:55AM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

I think you'll find most of us equal opportunity abusers in relation to poor driving.

Did you forward the footage on to traffic watch/guards, looks like you can see the reg plates.

you actually can't see the complete registration in the video (you can make most of it out but its blurry). I had the camera setting on 720p @30fps. I have since upped this to 1080p @60fps :pac:

dashcamdanny · 08-12-2014 12:27PM

rameire wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdjmXeGLNYs

this guy just came out onto the N7 inbound.
after he went straight into my path in lane two he continued on into lane 3 and eventually gave me the finger.

Are you aware that that area is currently 60kph?

K.Flyer · 08-12-2014 12:35PM

Spook_ie wrote: »

Hate to think how fast you cycle when your NOT going slow enough!

Anyhows, I suspect that the main problem would be the lack of visual acuity given by the sun being low on the horizon

Have to disagree, I suspect the main problem would be that the car driver was a dopey c#nt who doesn't give a toss about other road users.
They either didn't look or didn't care.
The cyclist was well on the roundabout and had to be well within view.
If the driver couldn't see someone at that distance they should off the road.

Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

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