Looting and Rioting in St. Louis (Merged)

Amazingfun · 02-12-2014 12:27AM

No surprises here either: Kenny Britt-one of the ridiculous "hands up" NFL footballers -is a criminal himself.

Tennessee Titans wide receiver Kenny Britt was arrested on three charges Tuesday afternoon after a car chase in his hometown of Bayonne, N.J., FOXSports.com has learned.

A Bayonne police spokesman told FOXSports.com that Britt was charged with eluding a police officer, lying to an officer/hindering apprehension and obstructing governmental function. Eluding an officer is a third-degree felony; the other two charges are misdemeanors.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/kenny-britt-police-chase-tennessee-titans-arrested-041211

"We kind of came collectively together and decided we wanted to do something," said Jared Cook, one of the participants. "So we wanted to come out and show our respect to the protests and the people who have been doing a heck of a job around the world."
"We wanted to let the community know that we support the community," another player, Kenny Britt, said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-30221442

lol...yeah, he really "supports the community" :rolleyes:

Britt has had run-ins with the law three times in the past 16 months,

jank · 02-12-2014 12:53AM

Nodin wrote: »

I'm not interested in your waffle. You accused me of racism - I'd like to see some evidence of this, or a withdrawal of the remark.

Oh the irony. You have often accused others of racism or being bigots yourself with scant evidence to prove other wise. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Comfy eh?

Nodin · 02-12-2014 12:56AM

jank wrote: »

Oh the irony. You have often accused others of racism or being bigots yourself with scant evidence to prove other wise. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Comfy eh?

O I never accuse without good evidence.

bnt · 02-12-2014 01:20AM

What a great way to fight injustice: set fire to your own town, loot your local businesses, and teach a new generation of young people how to destroy their own futures. Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

Karl Stein · 02-12-2014 02:02AM

The sooner that police officers are compelled to use body-cams the better for everyone. In one study in California the use of body-cams saw:

Officers' use of force [falling] by 60%.

policefoundation.org

If this cop had been wearing a cam it would have shown us what happened from his perspective. I actually don't think the there's been a whitewash and believe the findings to be more-or-less accurate.

That said, there's something seriously screwed up about the US justice system.

jank · 02-12-2014 02:49AM

Nodin wrote: »

O I never accuse without good evidence.

Yea, evidence... like posting a Newsweek link about ISIS makes someone a Muslim basher.... sure.

Nerdlingr · 02-12-2014 03:06AM

Nodin wrote: »

You might stop talking nonsense.

You're accusing me of something. You have provided no proof of it.

Ha! How ironic! Is that you officer Wilson?

You ask for proof as an absolution of what you were accused of, yet you reject the proof that has been presented in this case. How hypocritical of you.

RobYourBuilder · 02-12-2014 08:29AM

Nodin wrote: »

O I never accuse without good evidence.

Are you having a laugh? You implied that one poster was a racist, in this very thread, for posting a list of White people that were recently murdered by Black people.

humanji · 02-12-2014 09:34AM

This is getting ridiculous. Everybody, calm down and stop the incredibly petty bickering, and get back on to topic.

RobYourBuilder · 02-12-2014 10:29AM

Karl Stein wrote: »

The sooner that police officers are compelled to use body-cams the better for everyone. In one study in California the use of body-cams saw:

If this cop had been wearing a cam it would have shown us what happened from his perspective. I actually don't think the there's been a whitewash and believe the findings to be more-or-less accurate.

Obama is also separately calling for a $263m, three-year spending package to reform police departments across the country which, if approved by Congress, could lead to the purchase of an additional 50,000 lapel-mounted cameras to record police officers on the job.

Civil rights leaders and the family of Michael Brown, the 18-year-old who was shot dead in Ferguson by the white police officer Darren Wilson in August, are calling for legislation to make body-worn cameras mandatory for police.

The White House, which was hosting a summit on Monday to discuss the aftermath of the Ferguson protests on Monday, did not back that call, but said “there are some benefits” to wider use of equipment that records interactions between police and members of the public.

The president is also creating a task force to advise the White House on additional ways in which public trust can be improved between law enforcement and minority communities. The panel, led by Philadelphia police commissioner Charles Ramsey and former assistant attorney general Laurie Robinson, will report back within the next 90 days.

“Recent events in Ferguson, Missouri and around the country have highlighted the importance of strong, collaborative relationships between local police and the communities they protect,” the White House said.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/01/obama-white-house-summit-ferguson

Amazingfun · 02-12-2014 10:50AM

A video provided to St. Louis blogger Bob McCarty of the crime scene at the South St. Louis Bevo Mill neighborhood where a group of black teenagers bludgeoned Bosnian immigrant Zemir Begic to death with hammers, strongly suggests the motive for the attack - retaliation for the Michael Brown shooting.

At the beginning of the one minute video, the woman who recorded the scene, expressed her profound and at times profane disgust with what had just happened in her neighborhood.
"Arrest them all," she sneered. "F*ck this sh*t."

At the 45-second mark, she said, “And, of course, it’s a white kid, right after black people running up and down the street saying, ‘Eff the white people, kill the white people.’ This is what we have.”

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/12/01/Eyewitness-Before-St-Louis-Hammer-Attack-Black-People-Ran-Up-And-Down-The-Street-Yelling-Eff-the-white-people-kill-the-white-people

darkpagandeath · 02-12-2014 10:56AM

Still can't believe people crying foul over the Grand jury decision. Am I correct in saying defence and prosecution both have opportunities to try stack the jury, As in dismiss jury members they don't feel are suitable. In this case I assume it would have at least been 50/50 split black and white. And still they don't get a result they want. What does that tell you.

RobYourBuilder · 02-12-2014 10:57AM

“It's every month that Bosnians are getting killed" another said. We came here for freedom from the Serbs – to get our freedom. But now, we’re getting killed by African Americans. That’s not fair.”

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/11/30/man-beaten-to-death-with-hammer-in-st-louis/

Hoop66 · 02-12-2014 10:58AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Still can't believe people crying foul over the Grand jury decision. Am I correct in saying defence and prosecution both have opportunities to try stack the jury, As in dismiss jury members they don't feel are suitable. In this case I assume it would have at least been 50/50 split black and white. And still they don't get a result they want. What does that tell you.

It wasn't. It was 9 white 3 black.

Grand jury members are not screened like normal, or petit, jury members would be.

Grand Moff Tarkin · 02-12-2014 11:52AM

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Are you having a laugh? You implied that one poster was a racist, in this very thread, for posting a list of White people that were recently murdered by Black people.

He has been playing that game as long as I have been posting on here.

Manic Moran · 02-12-2014 06:26PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Still can't believe people crying foul over the Grand jury decision. Am I correct in saying defence and prosecution both have opportunities to try stack the jury, As in dismiss jury members they don't feel are suitable. In this case I assume it would have at least been 50/50 split black and white. And still they don't get a result they want. What does that tell you.

No. There is no defense or prosecution. In St Louis County, at least, The jurors are selected at random by a judge. The jury is basically a tenure for a period of time, it is not created for a specific case, and this Grand Jury considered a number of cases in the time it was in session.

The process is simply a presentation of evidence, in which the prosecutors appear to function as facilitators. Unlike a regular jury, GJ members get to ask questions of witnesses.

Putinovsky · 02-12-2014 06:51PM

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Are you having a laugh? You implied that one poster was a racist, in this very thread, for posting a list of White people that were recently murdered by Black people.

Do you know where that list came from? (unless its a massive coincidence that he got the names in the exact same order and wrote the details the exact same way)

Amazingfun · 02-12-2014 08:11PM

Why aren't Ferguson protesters who are holding banners saying "Black deaths matter" protesting these African-American siblings' deaths? Because they were caused by fellow blacks and not white cops.

Fox News contributor Deroy Murdock has created the chart above, based on FBI figures and research by University of Missouri–St. Louis criminologist and former LAPD officer David A. Klinger.

From 2003 through 2012, Klinger counts 1,265 murders in his city. In about 90% of cases the murder victims were black.
Among these 1,138 decedents, roughly 90 percent (1,025) were slain by other blacks. Klinger found 32 blacks killed by cops, with 22 of them shot dead by white officers. So, across 10 years, white cops killed a whopping 2 percent of St. Louis’s black homicide victims. Investigations indicated that all of these police killings were legally justified.

“While I understand the people are concerned about the use of deadly force by the police, by far — about 50 to 1 — more blacks in St. Louis are killed by other blacks as compared to white police officers,” Klinger told KMOX-TV.

Chart @ link:
http://www.enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/black-deaths-matter-if-killer-is-white.html?m=1

Putinovsky · 02-12-2014 08:58PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

Chart @ link:
http://www.enzaferreri.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/black-deaths-matter-if-killer-is-white.html?m=1

You know damn well I'm not referring to that list. Your evasive nature says it all. Why can't you just admit what you are? Do you not have the backbone to stand behind your obvious beliefs? Pretty pathetic

Amazingfun · 02-12-2014 09:12PM

Putinovsky wrote: »

You know damn well I'm not referring to that list. Your evasive nature says it all. Why can't you just admit what you are? Do you not have the backbone to stand behind your obvious beliefs? Pretty pathetic

What the hell are you on about and why do you think this post has anything to do with you at all? Truth is I ignore much of what you post for obvious reasons.

Sand · 02-12-2014 11:50PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Still can't believe people crying foul over the Grand jury decision. Am I correct in saying defence and prosecution both have opportunities to try stack the jury, As in dismiss jury members they don't feel are suitable. In this case I assume it would have at least been 50/50 split black and white. And still they don't get a result they want. What does that tell you.

There's a constituency of posters who simply want a jury and process that can be trusted to reject the evidence and instead convict and jail Wilson on the basis of him being a white police officer, as that fits with their bias. They will always be frustrated by any fair and impartial process as a result.

Christ, even if the grand jury was to be moved to another state it would still be faced with the same overwhelming evidence that M Brown was lawfully shot and killed. And if the jury and prosecutor was going to give the benefit of the doubt to Wilson on the basis of him being a police officer with no red flags in Missouri, juries and prosecutors were going to give a cop with no red flags the same benefit of the doubt in the other 49 states. M Brown on the other hand was filmed assaulting a shopkeeper half his size only minutes before his assault on Wilson.

reprise · 04-12-2014 09:40PM

Sand wrote: »

There's a constituency of posters who simply want a jury and process that can be trusted to reject the evidence and instead convict and jail Wilson on the basis of him being a white police officer, as that fits with their bias. They will always be frustrated by any fair and impartial process as a result.

Christ, even if the grand jury was to be moved to another state it would still be faced with the same overwhelming evidence that M Brown was lawfully shot and killed. And if the jury and prosecutor was going to give the benefit of the doubt to Wilson on the basis of him being a police officer with no red flags in Missouri, juries and prosecutors were going to give a cop with no red flags the same benefit of the doubt in the other 49 states. M Brown on the other hand was filmed assaulting a shopkeeper half his size only minutes before his assault on Wilson.

If they moved the grand jury to another state it would provide the ammo to move every other case to another state and possibly blow up every conviction in that state that preceded it.

It would send a signal that St. Louis cannot trust its own slack jawed race hate filled citizens to deliver a fair verdict and tarnish the entire state police and legal system.

And there would STILL be riots if Brown walked and the usual, hate filled, race baiters would be front and centre, egging the mobs on, crying conspiracy and racism FOR moving the process out of the state.

RobYourBuilder · 06-12-2014 11:44PM

Another Bosnian was attacked in St . Louis. This time a woman. Anyone know why Bosnians are being targeted?

According to a police report, at about 5:30 a.m., a Bosnian woman was driving on the 4600 block of Lansdowne when three black males in their late-teens to early-20s stepped in front of her vehicle.

When the woman tried to drive around them, the suspects reportedly pulled out a firearm, so she stopped the car.

After hitting her windshield with a crowbar, the suspects pulled the woman from her car, threw her on the ground and kicked her.

A suspect grabbed her purse, searched it, and told the others it was empty. All three suspects then fled the scene.

Police say the woman said she thought the crime was racially motivated because the suspects asked her if she was Bosnian.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/12/05/st-louis-police-investigating-possible-hate-crime-in-bevo-neighborhood/

helluvalife · 07-12-2014 12:06AM

Irish people acting as if they are in the know here is ridiculous. You simply can't comprehend the social dynamics in the US. It's not like the movies or your tv shows. Ireland is a million miles away culturally.

crockholm · 07-12-2014 12:57AM

helluvalife wrote: »

Irish people acting as if they are in the know here is ridiculous. You simply can't comprehend the social dynamics in the US. It's not like the movies or your tv shows. Ireland is a million miles away culturally.

Or,some of us have lived there/continue to live there still-Boards.ie does not require you to be resident in Ireland.

AlekSmart · 07-12-2014 01:09AM

crockholm wrote: »

Or,some of us have lived there/continue to live there still-Boards.ie does not require you to be resident in Ireland.

Originally Posted by helluvalife View Post
Irish people acting as if they are in the know here is ridiculous. You simply can't comprehend the social dynamics in the US. It's not like the movies or your tv shows. Ireland is a million miles away culturally.

Both responses are correct.....with the real necessity being not to get too engaged with the condensed "On The Spot" 24 Hr News Channel reportage from "The Land of The Free".

Many,if not all of these cause celebre occurences,demand time and effort to consider and get into perspective,and we currently are not in a great place for investing time & effort into anything except protesting agin stuff....;)

Amazingfun · 08-12-2014 09:37PM

"Not a Parody": A get out of law-exams free card !

- The law school has a policy and set of procedures for students who experience trauma during exam period. In accordance with these procedures and policy, students who feel that their performance on examinations will be sufficiently impaired due to the effects of these recent events may petition Dean Alice Rigas to have an examination rescheduled.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/12/not-a-parody.php

Amazingfun · 09-12-2014 02:33PM

The Armed Forces Medical Examiner System's autopsy on Brown, conducted at the request of the Department of Justice, was among grand jury documents that St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch released Monday with little explanation. Other documents include transcripts of eight federal interviews of possible witnesses to Brown's shooting in early August; police radio traffic; and an alleged audio recording of the shots fired by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

Many of the documents contained information that was similar or identical to the materials that McCulloch released on Nov. 24 after a grand jury decided not to indict Wilson in Brown's death. A transcript of testimony from an Air Force pathologist who performed the Justice Department autopsy was included in the November documents, but the autopsy report itself was not released until Monday.

http://news.yahoo.com/federal-autopsy-released-ferguson-shooting-064512024.html

Hande hoche! · 09-12-2014 02:53PM

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Another Bosnian was attacked in St . Louis. This time a woman. Anyone know why Bosnians are being targeted?

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/12/05/st-louis-police-investigating-possible-hate-crime-in-bevo-neighborhood/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxgRIHCiUfg

There is one crazy woman seemingly frothing about them on youtube.

anonyanony · 11-12-2014 01:43AM

www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=e3Lx1v43HGw

He was a good boy

Looting and Rioting in St. Louis (Merged)

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