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Why do people still eat dairy?

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    #62
    El_Dangeroso
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    enfant terrible wrote: »
    Would low fat milk be better?

    Find that easier with digestion.

    Whatever you'd prefer, low fat still has a decent amount of fat and therefore fat soluble vitamins in it so whatever floats you boat.


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    #63
    FluffTheDog
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭FluffTheDog


    Lol I'm sure a little bit is fine but I used to have it everyday on my porridge so I just switched to maple syrup. I like my teeth, they're nice the way they are.


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    #64
    El_Dangeroso
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    FluffTheDog wrote: »
    Lol I'm sure a little bit is fine but I used to have it everyday on my porridge so I just switched to maple syrup. I like my teeth, they're nice the way they are.

    But maple syrup is prob about the same nutritionally as honey if not a little better. Honey doesn't cause cavities like refined sugar because it's naturally antimicrobial and it also contains some pretty powerful prebiotics.


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    #65
    FluffTheDog
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭FluffTheDog


    Greenmachine wrote: »
    And to think a doctor would recommend chemo for cancer :rolleyes:

    Human being are onminvores. We have incisors to rip animal flesh apart. Next please.

    Lol when do you ever rip animal flesh apart? You don't. You cook it after someone else chopped it up and packaged it for you, then you use your sharp knife to cut it into little bits and then you chew it. No ripping of animal flesh like a real omnivore. Human teeth are flat like other plant eaters. Dogs are omnivores, look at their teeth. Completely different.


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    #66
    Del.Monte
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    OP - it may come as a surprise to you but none of us are getting out of here alive. However, most of us are going to try to enjoy our lives, and are not too worried whether or not we ultimately make a healthy corpse.

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    #67
    FluffTheDog
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    El_Dangeroso wrote: »
    But maple syrup is prob about the same nutritionally as honey if not a little better. Honey doesn't cause cavities like refined sugar because it's naturally antimicrobial and it also contains some pretty powerful prebiotics.

    I just looked it up on cronometer. Maple syrup is better in terms of vits and minerals yes. Actually has a lot of manganese and b2. Honey doesn't have much nutritional value it seems. Anyway that's not the point, I don't want the stomach acids in it.


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    El_Dangeroso
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    #69
    FluffTheDog
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    OP - it may come as a surprise to you but none of us are getting out of here alive. However, most of us are going to try to enjoy our lives, and are not too worried whether or not we ultimately make a healthy corpse.

    I know. But honestly, we can be healthy as vegans and it's so more sustainable for the planet to live on plant foods. And I know people don't really care about the animals but it's just so unnecessary to have all that life being created and destroyed.

    In terms of enjoyment, I feel so liberated since I went veg. No cravings and emotional dependence on biscuits and chocolate anymore! If you're a man you probably won't understand but I think most women drive themselves crazy thinking about food. And it's just unnecessary tbh.

    Anyway this thread has gotten OT!


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    #70
    hfallada
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    FluffTheDog wrote: »
    I know. But honestly, we can be healthy as vegans and it's so more sustainable for the planet to live on plant foods. And I know people don't really care about the animals but it's just so unnecessary to have all that life being created and destroyed.

    In terms of enjoyment, I feel so liberated since I went veg. No cravings and emotional dependence on biscuits and chocolate anymore! If you're a man you probably won't understand but I think most women drive themselves crazy thinking about food. And it's just unnecessary tbh.

    Anyway this thread has gotten OT!

    Yes being a vegan maybe better for the environment. But billions choose to eat meat and other animal products, as its their choice. They eating what they like to eat.

    Im not vegan and I dont anything that is sweet. So I dont how your comment about chocolates is relevant. Most vegan diets are questionable as they eat so many refined carbs, which arent that healthy compared to proteins such as eggs or meat. Most carbs are quite unhealthy and most independent food scientists, often dont have anything positive to say about refined carbs. They cause blood sugars to spike just like chocolates and sugary items

    OP you should look at farming in Ireland. Its not the BS that PETA make farming out to be. There is nothing morally wrong with the Irish dairy industry.


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    #71
    Greenmachine
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    FluffTheDog wrote: »
    Lol when do you ever rip animal flesh apart? You don't. You cook it after someone else chopped it up and packaged it for you, then you use your sharp knife to cut it into little bits and then you chew it. No ripping of animal flesh like a real omnivore. Human teeth are flat like other plant eaters. Dogs are omnivores, look at their teeth. Completely different.

    Dogs are carnivores.

    Scientific classification
    Kingdom: Animalia
    Phylum: Chordata
    Class: Mammalia
    Order: Carnivora
    Family: Canidae
    Genus: Canis
    Species: C. lupus
    Subspecies: C. l. familiaris

    The fact that they will eat what you put in front of them does not change what their natural diet is. Clearly you are really inciteful given your opposition to eating dairy. There are a multitude of things that human do that other animals don't do. What other animal ferments alcohol or cooks their food. I am guessing that you also advocate the raw food diet.

    One could likely live perfectly ommitting most of what your diet might consist of. Nut, beans, pulses, or even any of the grains you might choose to eat. I could pick any that you chose to omit. You are assuming cause and effect too. Your change in iron level is not as a result of omitting milk but your more focused effort on measuring what your are eating and taking things in to consideration.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
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    Whatever about the milk being stolen from those poor calves and fed to humans, what about those poor veggies sitting in their nice warm soil and being ripped unmercifully from the ground to be eaten by humans of all things.
    Has no one considered their feelings and the pain they have to endure.

    I think we need a new poll. Should Joe Duffy be called on Monday for his opinion on the subject?


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    #73
    endacl
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    Only just found this thread. Well done op. You have me convinced. Black tea tomorrow, and orange juice on the porridge!

    Anything else I could be doing?

    :D


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    FluffTheDog
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭FluffTheDog


    hfallada wrote: »
    Yes being a vegan maybe better for the environment. But billions choose to eat meat and other animal products, as its their choice. They eating what they like to eat.

    Im not vegan and I dont anything that is sweet. So I dont how your comment about chocolates is relevant. Most vegan diets are questionable as they eat so many refined carbs, which arent that healthy compared to proteins such as eggs or meat. Most carbs are quite unhealthy and most independent food scientists, often dont have anything positive to say about refined carbs. They cause blood sugars to spike just like chocolates and sugary items

    OP you should look at farming in Ireland. Its not the BS that PETA make farming out to be. There is nothing morally wrong with the Irish dairy industry.

    I was pointing out how miserable it is to always be craving chocolate and stuff and how I don't get them anymore. You should look up Dr Neal Barnard, he has a book on a high carb low fat vegan diet and diabetes. It's not as simple as carbs raise blood sugar.

    Listen, I know what Irish farming is like. I grew up in the country surrounded by dairy farms. Most of my friends come from them. But it's still unnecessary to have all them animals. And let's be honest, there's no kind way to kill an animal.

    And yeah, PETA actually has some questionable sh!t going on tbh and I don't like their approach at promoting veganism at all.


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    #75
    papu
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    FluffTheDog wrote: »
    I was pointing out how miserable it is to always be craving chocolate and stuff and how I don't get them anymore. You should look up Dr Neal Barnard, he has a book on a high carb low fat vegan diet and diabetes. It's not as simple as carbs raise blood sugar.
    Where's Bruno26 at ?


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    #76
    Tell me how
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    FluffTheDog wrote:
    I think the dairy issue is a no brainer, and I want to see what other people think, not just veggies!


    No brainer comes to mind alright...


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    #77
    Ave Sodalis
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    OP, given the crap you're spouting here and thinking you're right, please tell me you actually properly researched your diet before you tried it?


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    #78
    Saipanne
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    FluffTheDog wrote: »
    I've just wondering why people do this in this day and age. Lots of people getting into health and starting to think about what they put in their bodies, yet grown adults are still drinking milk that comes from another mammal. Do people really think that it's normal to do so? Or more so, do they think it's healthy? Or worse.. necessary?!

    So damn good...


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    jacksie66
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    #80
    pidgeoneyes
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    Someone's lawn got cut up by a herd of cows:rolleyes:


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    #81
    ciara1052
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    Your entire attitude to dairy is kind of bizarre. It is simply a group of foods which humans have evolved to be able to consume with no negative effects (at least in this part of the world). The only reason (as mentioned earlier in this thread) that only the young of other mammals stop drinking it because the gene that allows them to metabolise the sugar in dairy (lactose) doesn't persist as they age. However in Europe - lactase persistence alleles which allows us to continue to metabolise dairy into out adult years occur at a high frequency (Basically - the majority of people here aren't lactose intolerant).

    There is a reason people evolved to be able to consume dairy. The ability to consume another food source would have been and still is highly beneficial - especially when it contains an abundance of vitamins and minerals and is high in calories. The idea that you think it's strange or odd really don't matter - they're just your perceptions. Lots of things humans do now can be considered strange or odd - we started cooking food for starters. The same way many people think it's strange to kill animals and consume the meat. At the end of the day it's just another source of energy.


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    #82
    Milly33
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    What she said well done ciara1052


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    #83
    coffee_cake
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    Im lactose intolerant and I still have bits of it. especially if Celebrations are around
    nothing weird about those
    om nom nom
    ><


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    #84
    LuckyLloyd
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    FluffTheDog wrote: »
    You're very narrow minded.

    If narrow minded equates to not believing that a vegan diet cured asthma I'd like to own the label.


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    #85
    Greenmachine
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    Looks like fluff has ran to ground.


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    #86
    ch750536
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    We're all individuals. If we reworded the OP to be 'bugs are really good for us, why aren't we eating more' then you would probably see their perspective on milk. Personally I see the whole milk thing as odd.

    From an asthma perspective, my eldest lad has a number of nasal \ bronchial issues and he improved greatly when we removed dairy from his diet. Not ruling out coincidence of course.


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    #87
    laoch na mona
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    dairy is good for you and tastes good so why wouldn't I eat it


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    #88
    papu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    Huge Study on Raw Milk and how children raised on it have fewer allergies and less asthma , so something to think about there.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/11/12/raw-milk-benefits.aspx

    Sources and Links to the study are on the end of that page


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    ch750536
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    Shhhhh! Don't say raw milk....
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/04/the-rawesome-raid-and-raw-milk-controversy/


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    ch750536
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    laoch na mona wrote: »
    dairy is good for you and tastes good so why wouldn't I eat it

    That's fine if you think no further. Eaten many bugs today? They're good for you and taste nice, so why not?


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    papu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    ch750536 wrote: »
    Shhhhh! Don't say raw milk....
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/04/the-rawesome-raid-and-raw-milk-controversy/

    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/regulations-for-sale-of-raw-milk-being-considered-by-department-of-agriculture-1.1985545
    Regulations for sale of raw milk being considered by Department of Agriculture


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