ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 17-11-2014 05:16PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

Taxation should be fair. At the moment, w.r.t. water supply it is unfair because a certain percentage of the population have to pay for water supply, the rest do not. IW was created to ensure everybody pays for what they use. How is that such a problem for so many?

Why do so many want an unlimited, unmetered supply of water, for nothing?

Because we already pay for it, perhaps? :rolleyes:

BoJack Horseman · 17-11-2014 05:17PM

I would like Irish Water as a company to be restructured

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Unless they took out their sim card.

In which case they wouldn't have been able to ring the office in the first place..... (what with no sim)

Discarding a sim post phone call doesn't inhibit a trace and a trace can also determine the handset imei which can then identify previously used sims.....

... But I digress.

BoJack Horseman · 17-11-2014 05:18PM

I would like Irish Water as a company to be restructured

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Because we already pay for it, perhaps? :rolleyes:

As he said.

Some do.
Some don't.

Tinkersbell · 17-11-2014 05:18PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Beaner1 wrote: »

The demonstrators do their own counter PR. The videos they put up "proving" their cause usually shows them to be horrible whining knackers that decent people would run a mile from.

They combine some of the worst traits of humanity, often in the one person. Entitled, ignorant, stupid, mouthy, opinionated, deceitful, manipulative and shameless. Their default strategy is to play the victim as that is where the argument is one as far as they are concerned. They are the victim of the banks. Victims of the government (despite all voting for team Bertie and being heavily paid off). Victims of the gardai despite them being incredibly restrained. THey will always do their best to present made up situations where kids, women and old people are being attacked.

Ah Mr. Facebook is back.
Seen your facebook page last night mate, didn't see too many 'outings' as you said you were going to do in the post one of the lads here put up.
How many likes have you now?

Tinkersbell · 17-11-2014 05:20PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Beaner1 wrote: »

I have a cousin, decent guy and all, living in a scummy council house. He believes there are is some serious stuff being planned by a few hardcore "protestors". Assassination level stuff. Some of these shinners genuinely believe that a revolution is around the corner.

You're full of it.
Nobody believes a word you post.

Breffnigolfer · 17-11-2014 05:23PM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Because we already pay for it, perhaps? :rolleyes:

You haven't read my post. (or deliberately misunderstood it?)

Those currently on Public Water supplies are not paying enough and need to top up the current system. You do realise there are approx 250,000 houses paying for water at the moment? Why should some get it for free and others have to pay for it?

Saying it's already being paid for its not correct.

Where were the protesters supporting the families struggling to pay college fees for courses that were once free(paid for out of our taxes)?

Pay your fair share.

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 17-11-2014 05:24PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

As he said.

Some do.
Some don't.

And those that dont will most likely not pay for water to Irish water either - the neauvoux riche will most likely have a full plate of benefits to avoid the charges.

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 17-11-2014 05:25PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

You haven't read my post. (or deliberately misunderstood it?)

Those currently on Public Water supplies are not paying enough and need to top up the current system. You do realise there are approx 250,000 houses paying for water at the moment? Why should some get it for free and others have to pay for it?

Saying it's already being paid for its not correct.

Where were the protesters supporting the families struggling to pay college fees for courses that were once free(paid for out of our taxes)?

Pay your fair share.

I do pay my fair share.
Are you for real? Supporting irish water?
In the old days people like you would be locked up in the looney bin.

Tony EH · 17-11-2014 05:27PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

gandalf wrote: »

I normally have an awful lot of respect for Noonan, he has been a very good Minister for Finance but along with the rest of cabinet he seems to have lost the plot where IW is concerned. It's no wonder the grassroots of FG are panicking so much at the moment, the people in charge of the party is completely and utterly disconnected from reality.

I'd wonder if he (or a lot of FG) are actually in agreement with Irish Water fully.

It seems to me that FG tried to chance their arm and way too many people are not having any of it, resulting in a lot of backpeddling and wringing of hands.

Still find it funny that Joan Burton is being wheeled out to do the propaganda for it though, when it's primarily a FG venture.

Beaner1 · 17-11-2014 05:27PM

Tinkersbell wrote: »

Ah Mr. Facebook is back.
Seen your facebook page last night mate, didn't see too many 'outings' as you said you were going to do in the post one of the lads here put up.
How many likes have you now?

I'm too busy with work. Earned more last month than these protestors earn in 2 years.

Breffnigolfer · 17-11-2014 05:29PM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I do pay my fair share.
Are you for real? Supporting irish water?
In the old days people like you would be locked up in the looney bin.

What do you mean "supporting Irish Water"?

Why should I be locked up? I'm asking for equality in the tax system, a system which currently allows too many spongers to get unlimited quantity of treated water for free. I'm asking these people be brought into line with those who are currently paying, without objection, for their domestic water supplies.

Tinkersbell · 17-11-2014 05:30PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Beaner1 wrote: »

I'm too busy with work. Earned more last month than these protestors earn in 2 years.

What do you want? A medal?

BTW, sure you did......ðŸ˜‚

Highflyer13 · 17-11-2014 05:32PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Tony EH wrote: »

I'd wonder if he (or a lot of FG) are actually in agreement with Irish Water fully.

It seems to me that FG tried to chance their arm and way too many people are not having any of it, resulting in a lot of backpeddling and wringing of hands.

Still find it funny that Joan Burton is being wheeled out to do the propaganda for it though, when it's primarily a FG venture.

They are trying to hand the poison chalice to Labour. Sure look at Alan Kelly being sent out to the forefront talking to the media and doing PR exercises. We rarely seen that with Hogan.

listermint · 17-11-2014 05:34PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

What do you mean "supporting Irish Water"?

Why should I be locked up? I'm asking for equality in the tax system, a system which currently allows too many spongers to get unlimited quantity of treated water for free. I'm asking these people be brought into line with those who are currently paying, without objection, for their domestic water supplies.

So you are for a HSE style behemoth to introduce your 'fairness' ?

What do you know about Water Security, and how do you propose we as a nation keep it, in relation to your short term 'fairness' ?

mikom · 17-11-2014 05:36PM

Beaner1 wrote: »

I have a cousin, decent guy and all, living in a scummy council house. He believes there are is some serious stuff being planned by a few hardcore "protestors". Assassination level stuff. Some of these shinners genuinely believe that a revolution is around the corner.

Expect a knock on the door from a guard, Beaner1.

Beaner1 · 17-11-2014 05:37PM

Tinkersbell wrote: »

What do you want? A medal?

BTW, sure you did......ðŸ˜‚

Just for you.

http://i.imgur.com/dURrOtX.jpg

20K last month. My opinion rightfully carries a lot more weight.

Beaner1 · 17-11-2014 05:37PM

mikom wrote: »

Expect a knock on the door from a guard, Beaner1.

What would a garda be doing in Belgium?

Breffnigolfer · 17-11-2014 05:37PM

listermint wrote: »

So you are for a HSE style behemoth to introduce your 'fairness' ?

What do you know about Water Security, and how do you propose we as a nation keep it, in relation to your short term 'fairness' ?

We already have an infrastructure "looking after" water supply, they've just changed their employment from Public Service to Semi-State.

As for water security?That's all enshrined in the relevant legislation. This is all just a red herring, to be honest. What do the protesters care about ownership of the utility if they're never going to pay for it? Why don't they just drill wells and be independent? Ah, yes, because the "taxes" will pay for an alternative.

Stargate · 17-11-2014 05:38PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Beaner1 wrote: »

Just for you.

http://i.imgur.com/dURrOtX.jpg

20K last month. My opinion rightfully carries a lot more weight.

Jez , another Photoshop pic :P

gandalf · 17-11-2014 05:38PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Tony EH wrote: »

I'd wonder if he (or a lot of FG) are actually in agreement with Irish Water fully.

It seems to me that FG tried to chance their arm and way too many people are not having any of it, resulting in a lot of backpeddling and wringing of hands.

Still find it funny that Joan Burton is being wheeled out to do the propaganda for it though, when it's primarily a FG venture.

I have a feeling they slept walked their way through the set up and left too much of the details to the higher ups in the CS and the consultants. Only now when the details are being examined in minute detail are they realising that they have made a monumental cock up with the set up of this organisation.

17-11-2014 05:39PM

I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth

mikom wrote: »

Expect a knock on the door from a guard, Beaner1.

A knock on the door from men in white coats would be better :pac:

listermint · 17-11-2014 05:41PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

We already have an infrastructure "looking after" water supply, they've just changed their employment from Public Service to Semi-State.

As for water security?That's all enshrined in the relevant legislation. This is all just a red herring, to be honest. What do the protesters care about ownership of the utility if they're never going to pay for it? Why don't they just drill wells and be independent? Ah, yes, because the "taxes" will pay for an alternative.

We dont have an infrastructure seemingly, This is why Irish Water was created with employee transfers and massive contractor list. But that wont suit your ill informed argument. This means as i suspect you are for HSE style entity being created and facilitated. Or do you want to readdress the point.

And the term red herring is terribly over used by people who dont understand the subject matter, there is nothing in relevant legislation to protect our water security (nothing whatsoever) i cant be clearer. So you either dont understand the concept, dont understand the question or dont wish to understand either.

Go again.

Beaner1 · 17-11-2014 05:43PM

Stargate wrote: »

Jez , another Photoshop pic :P

Not possible with the monitor pixel aliasing. It's the real deal. MS Paint to keep me safe.

Stargate · 17-11-2014 05:43PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Joan has a Table quiz planned at The Roselawn Inn at 8:15pm tonight, a fundraiser for Labour.

Is that out near Clonsilla ?

it is still going ahead ? Will there be a protest there ?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628403_1001065303253310_4323801777685386956_n.jpg?oh=41c7e2eb5358cb2cc117f337b7cf7379&oe=54D96CAC&__gda__=1424148678_313225d6108b32283b8aa89a375e1d37

dav3 · 17-11-2014 05:44PM

Beaner1 wrote: »

Just for you.

http://i.imgur.com/dURrOtX.jpg

20K last month. My opinion rightfully carries a lot more weight.

You come across as an extremely insecure person. Would you like to talk about it?

Beaner1 · 17-11-2014 05:45PM

dav3 wrote: »

You come across as an extremely insecure person. Would you like to talk about it?

No, I pay an expert 110 quid an hour for that.

Breffnigolfer · 17-11-2014 05:47PM

listermint wrote: »

We dont have an infrastructure seemingly, This is why Irish Water was created with employee transfers and massive contractor list. But that wont suit your ill informed argument. This means as i suspect you are for HSE style entity being created and facilitated. Or do you want to readdress the point.

And the term red herring is terribly over used by people who dont understand the subject matter, there is nothing in relevant legislation to protect our water security (nothing whatsoever) i cant be clearer. So you either dont understand the concept, dont understand the question or dont wish to understand either.

Go again.

That was one of the worst, pathetic put-downs yet. Try again? (and there's an apostrophe in "don't"!)

listermint · 17-11-2014 05:47PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

That was one of the worst, pathetic put-downs yet. Try again? (and there's an apostrophe in "don't"!)

Right, so you have no valid argument then.

Thank you for your time. Oh and unsure if you read the rules here but pointing out spelling may be frowned upon.

Kind Regards

Listermint

Highflyer13 · 17-11-2014 05:49PM

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Beaner1 wrote: »

Just for you.

http://i.imgur.com/dURrOtX.jpg

20K last month. My opinion rightfully carries a lot more weight.

What currency is that, the Zimbabwaen dollar?:pac:

Beaner1 · 17-11-2014 05:50PM

Highflyer13 wrote: »

What currency is that, the Zimbabwaen dollar?:pac:

It's euro for what it's worth. Thank you water protestors and general council scum. You drove me out of Ireland and onto much better things.

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ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP