Water meter protests

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 10:19AM

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Yes, there is nothing like the bullying and intimidation of a woman, by holding her hostage in her car, to really get the ball rolling for social and political rebellion.

Cowards and idiots.

Let's walk up and down the street so. That will show them.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 10:21AM

cletus van damme wrote: »

100% this.

I have been on the water protest marches and some of the anti austerity ones and I think the disgraceful behaviour of the rabble in jobstown will turn people off the anti water charges campaign.
what is making this campaign successful is that it have brought in working and middle class people and united people who would normally be at loggerheads.
Scenes like jobstown and idiots shouting "peaceful protest" will only serve to break those recently formed bonds.
You will always have a few nuts in a big campaign like the anti-water charges - but what you hope is so called leaders behaving with some decorum. but no.

Fionnan Sheahan is right in todays Indo - Paul Murphy TD is immature.
I'd go further and say he is a clown - he doesn't realise how to handle this platform he has at the moment and will blow it for the sake of a shaking his fist at the man. Real small minded stuff.

The Shinners arent any better - as I saw Sean Crowe TDs facebook at the weekend gloating over the Joan Burton incident and calling the gardai "hapless". All for the sake of a few LOLz and internet high 5s.

Has it come to this where they might be fcukers in the extreme but FF and FG are the only crowd able to handle power.
Their policies suck balls - i want change - but who can handle it?

depressed and angry , as I know people who were on water protests in the past but wary of being tagged with socialists/shinners who will now withdraw there support.

Why should it turn people off though. It affects everyone. Are people going to say here take my money, I feel bad some politician got upset.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 17-11-2014 10:23AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why should it turn people off though. It affects everyone. Are people going to say here take my money, I feel bad some politician got upset.

People don't want to associate with the likes of these scum. For all the peacefull and respectful protests that have happened, the one in Jobstown will be the one remembered.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 17-11-2014 10:23AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Let's walk up and down the street so. That will show them.

Yeah, you're right, we should form roaming mobs and hold as many people hostage in their cars as possible.

That'll show them!!!!

You're top quality, i have to give you that, a real leading light for water meter protesters. You'll go far Niallo.

cletus van damme · 17-11-2014 10:23AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Let's walk up and down the street so. That will show them.

perhaps not.
Holding a woman in her 60's in her car for several hours is the act of a coward. I'd rather be ineffective outside the dail than a coward.

But seriously there are many other ways to protest without violence.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 10:26AM

cletus van damme wrote: »

perhaps not.
Holding a woman in her 60's in her car for several hours is the act of a coward. I'd rather be ineffective outside the dail than a coward.

But seriously there are many other ways to protest without violence.

She was never in danger though. What other ways would work in this country. It's unfortunate but that's the way it is.

cletus van damme · 17-11-2014 10:27AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why should it turn people off though. It affects everyone. Are people going to say here take my money, I feel bad some politician got upset.

actually yes
There are people out there that rely on their reputation. They won't risk that by aligning themselves to an immature thick arsed mob.
Or there are people see this in action and say "not in my name" and won't attend futire rallies with socialist or SF involved.

You post above strikes me as really naive to be fair.

Rubberchikken · 17-11-2014 10:27AM

is there no way that the gardai couldn't have figured out that where joan burton would be so would a protest follow.
could they not have had extra gardai, or some type of barrier and some order?

i am cynical enough to think that it suits the agenda of the gardai and politicians to allow these types of protest to get to the stage that one in jobstown reached. it's oublicity supercedes all the others.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 10:28AM

Kellan Loose Rifleman wrote: »

People don't want to associate with the likes of these scum. For all the peacefull and respectful protests that have happened, the one in Jobstown will be the one remembered.

What does that tell you. 100s of thousands marched around the country and no one gave a ****e. Few hundred protest in Jobstown and it makes an impression.

AudreyHepburn · 17-11-2014 10:29AM

niallo27 wrote: »

She was never in danger though. What other ways would work in this country. It's unfortunate but that's the way it is.

She had things thrown at her, was trapped in her car which was nearly tipped over and was chased when she got out....how is that not being put in danger?

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 17-11-2014 10:29AM

niallo27 wrote: »

What does that tell you. 100s of thousands marched around the country and no one gave a ****e. Few hundred protest in Jobstown and it makes an impression.

I think you need to thump the heads off a few grannies to really tell the government you're serious. No other way about it Niallo. :pac:

AudreyHepburn · 17-11-2014 10:30AM

Rubberchikken wrote: »

is there no way that the gardai couldn't have figured out that where joan burton would be so would a protest follow.
could they not have had extra gardai, or some type of barrier and some order?

i am cynical enough to think that it suits the agenda of the gardai and politicians to allow these types of protest to get to the stage that one in jobstown reached. it's oublicity supercedes all the others.

Isn't there a separate forum for conspiracy theories?

BoJack Horseman · 17-11-2014 10:31AM

Rubberchikken wrote: »

i am cynical enough to think that it suits the agenda of the gardai and politicians to allow these types of protest to get to the stage that one in jobstown reached. it's oublicity supercedes all the others.

Its well known that Eirigi / AAA & the other pseudo-communists are actually a front for Young Fine Gael.

They attacked the tanaiste as part of a false flag operation

Its all out there.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 10:33AM

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

I think you need to thump the heads off a few grannies to really tell the government you're serious. No other way about it Niallo. :pac:

Please stick to the points. Your derailing the conversation and adding nothing to the debate.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 10:35AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

She had things thrown at her, was trapped in her car which was nearly tipped over and was chased when she got out....how is that not being put in danger?

They might realise they have pushed people too far. If she was in danger she would have been hurt. Nobody would have stopped them.

Streetwalker · 17-11-2014 10:38AM

That protester should have never called Enda Kenny a c unt. C unts are useful which is more than can be said about Kenny.

Streetwalker · 17-11-2014 10:39AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

She had things thrown at her, was trapped in her car which was nearly tipped over and was chased when she got out....how is that not being put in danger?

Tipped over :pac: Now you are just making things up

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 17-11-2014 10:43AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Please stick to the points. Your derailing the conversation and adding nothing to the debate.

The point is that you seem to be defending the mob holding a woman hostage and see this as a good thing.

Am i missing something here Niallo??

BoJack Horseman · 17-11-2014 10:45AM

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

The point is that you seem to be defending the mob holding a woman hostage and see this as a good thing.

In fairness.

Communist TD Paul Murphy did say they allowed the minister to eventually.leave.

Cos, ya know..... Fringe mobs decide when/if citizens have freedom of movement now.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 17-11-2014 10:46AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

In fairness.

Communist TD Paul Murphy did say they allowed the minister to eventually.leave.

Cos, ya know..... Fringe mobs decide when/if citizens have freedom of movement now.

Too be fair they did shout 'peaceful protest' as well.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 10:48AM

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

The point is that you seem to be defending the mob holding a woman hostage and see this as a good thing.

Am i missing something here Niallo??

It got peoples attention. It probably convinced the government how angry people here 3 or 4 times as much thousands of people marching. She wasn't held hostage in the boot of a car with a gun to her head.

AudreyHepburn · 17-11-2014 10:48AM

Streetwalker wrote: »

Tipped over :pac: Now you are just making things up

I'm not....Joan B said herself she was afraid that was going to happen and I take that to mean they must have been rocking the car when when she was in it.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 17-11-2014 10:51AM

niallo27 wrote: »

It got peoples attention. It probably convinced the government how angry people here 3 or 4 times as much thousands of people marching. She wasn't held hostage in the boot of a car with a gun to her head.

Sure it was only a bit of harmless intimidation. You're right, we should start sending them bullets in the post too, sure we're not actually going to shoot them, are we????

You're a gas man Niallo.

SteM · 17-11-2014 10:53AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I'm not....Joan B said herself she was afraid that was going to happen and I take that to mean they must have been rocking the car when when she was in it.

Her car was not 'nearly tipped over' - that's just a gross exaggeration.

17-11-2014 11:01AM

niallo27 wrote: »

They might realise they have pushed people too far. If she was in danger she would have been hurt. Nobody would have stopped them.

Sweet jebus, do some people actually think that this is acceptable behaviour.

If my mother, who is probably around the same age as Joan Burton, was trapped in a car by a baying mob, shaking the car & shouting things at her, for OVER 2 HOURS??

I wouldn't be responsible for what I would do to those people.
Disgraceful attitude.

ThinkAboutIt · 17-11-2014 11:04AM

If you had 30 men blocking your car as you tried to go to work this morning, you wouldn't consider that a peaceful protest.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 11:05AM

Dr. Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Sure it was only a bit of harmless intimidation. You're right, we should start sending them bullets in the post too, sure we're not actually going to shoot them, are we????

You're a gas man Niallo.

Your right. Let's just pay up and move along until the next charge comes in.

niallo27 · 17-11-2014 11:06AM

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

If you had 30 men blocking your car as you tried to go to work this morning, you wouldn't consider that a peaceful protest.

If your work involved ****ing people over until they can't take anymore then you might not be that surprised.

Gatling · 17-11-2014 11:07AM

Imagine people started blockading post offices on welfare payment days while peaceful protesting of course .
Wonder if people would feel the same

Dr. Mantis Toboggan · 17-11-2014 11:07AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Your right. Let's just pay up and move along until the next charge comes in.

How about putting a bit of thought and intelligence into putting your point across as opposed to holding someone hostage in their car and rocking it back and forth like a bunch of brain dead spastics shouting 'peaceful protest'? :rolleyes:

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