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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #2492
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    JRant wrote: »
    Republicans are setting the agenda?

    henceforth they shall be known as the
    Provisional anti-irish water association or P.A.I.W.A for short.

    Then the RAIWA


  • #2493
    AboutaWeekAgo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭AboutaWeekAgo


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Are some of the posts in this thread spoofs, or I am just that naive in my thinking that I can't fathom how somebody could have so much disdain for normal people they have never met before? All these posts about people who never pay tax in their life but the same people making those posts keep stum about the huge global corporations who have been avoiding massive tax bills for years?

    Surely if you're getting worked up about tax it should be the people with huge amounts of money not paying it and not the people living well below the breadline?


  • #2494
    moxin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    JRant wrote: »
    Republicans are setting the agenda?

    henceforth they shall be known as the
    Provisional anti-irish water association or P.A.I.W.A for short.

    It's the H2O IRA, did you not hear?!:pac:


  • #2495
    Zonda999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    This "blockade" if actually happening in any realistic sense, is absolutely pathetic. All media is fundamentally biased in some regard. The term "freedom of press" effectively implies that! You have CHOICES in what media you consume (Yes amazingly, Denis O'Brien doesn't control everything in this country, despite what some would have you believe).I, personally dislike the Daily Mail, but I choose not to read it.

    No one is forcing anybody to read the Irish oir Sunday Independent.


  • #2496
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »
    Are some of the posts in this thread spoofs, or I am just that naive in my thinking that I can't fathom how somebody could have so much disdain for normal people they have never met before? All these posts about people who never pay tax in their life but the same people making those posts keep stum about the huge global corporations who have been avoiding massive tax bills for years?

    Surely if you're getting worked up about tax it should be the people with huge amounts of money not paying it and not the people living well below the breadline?

    It's a past time at this stage for some in here.


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  • #2497
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Zonda999 wrote: »
    This "blockade" if actually happening in any realistic sense, is absolutely pathetic. All media is fundamentally biased in some regard. The term "freedom of press" effectively implies that! You have CHOICES in what media you consume (Yes amazingly, Denis O'Brien doesn't control everything in this country, despite what some would have you believe).I, personally dislike the Daily Mail, but I choose not to read it.

    No one is forcing anybody to read the Irish oir Sunday Independent.

    Choice is not something that many of these smaller protests and the groups who run them represent. To quote a person from the Direct Democracy website.

    "Blockade the Dail. If they cant get in, they cant vote"


  • #2498
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I'm confused, The protestor is throwing a rubber brick ? Clearly in 1 shot it's hitting the back window of the Garda car. In another it's bouncing over the roof. At that distance and with the amount of effort the guy is putting into throwing the “Brick” it would have clearly gone through the back window. Unless we are saying standard Garda cars have bullet resistant windows. Something very dodgy about these pictures.


  • #2499
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    This "blockade" if actually happening in any realistic sense, is absolutely pathetic. All media is fundamentally biased in some regard. The term "freedom of press" effectively implies that! You have CHOICES in what media you consume (Yes amazingly, Denis O'Brien doesn't control everything in this country, despite what some would have you believe).I, personally dislike the Daily Mail, but I choose not to read it.

    No one is forcing anybody to read the Irish oir Sunday Independent.

    DO'B has something around a 30% interest in the Indo and even that holding is quite recent. The Indo had the same editorial line when O'Reilly had the larger stake.

    People like to pick their bogeyman; it helps them to focus their anger.


  • #2500
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I'm confused, The protestor is throwing a rubber brick ? Clearly in 1 shot it's hitting the back window of the Garda car. In another it's bouncing over the roof. At that distance and with the amount of effort the guy is putting into throwing the “Brick” it would have clearly gone through the back window. Unless we are saying standard Garda cars have bullet resistant windows. Something very dodgy about these pictures.

    Would ye ever get out - you're two hours too late to be flying that kite.


  • #2501
    AboutaWeekAgo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭AboutaWeekAgo


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Phoebas wrote: »
    DO'B has something around a 30% interest in the Indo and even that holding is quite recent. The Indo had the same editorial line when O'Reilly had the larger stake.

    People like to pick their bogeyman; it helps them to focus their anger.

    Much like people are focusing their anger on the 'unemployed rent a mob dissident republician bogeyman'


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  • #2502
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    Phoebas wrote: »
    DO'B has something around a 30% interest in the Indo and even that holding is quite recent. The Indo had the same editorial line when O'Reilly had the larger stake.

    People like to pick their bogeyman; it helps them to focus their anger.

    It works both ways to be fair


  • #2503
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »
    Much like people are focusing their anger on the 'unemployed rent a mob dissident republician bogeyman'

    The rent a mobs have been around a lot longer than IW.


  • #2504
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    Phoebas wrote: »
    People like to pick their bogeyman; it helps them to focus their anger.
    And the whole photoshop-gate of the last few pages is rather telling in how some assess bias in a media outlet.

    i.e. "It is absolutely, definitely, 100% photo-shopped - only a blind FG/IW devotee could fail to set it. You must be .... oh wait, yeah it's legit." :pac:


  • #2505
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Would ye ever get out - you're two hours too late to be flying that kite.

    How so did I say he did not chuck something ? but last time I checked real bricks don't bounce off windows then bounce on top of a car then hit a light bar then magically bounce right instead of carrying on over the car. Back window of that car would not be laminated it would be standard safety glass that shatters.


  • #2506
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    And the whole photoshop-gate of the last few pages is rather telling in how some asses bias in a media outlet.

    i.e. "It is absolutely, definitely, 100% photo-shopped - only a blind FG/IW devotee could fail to set it. You must be .... oh wait, yeah it's legit." :pac:

    Get over yourself, will ya?
    I've admitted my mistake, I'd love to see any of you pro water tax lads do that.


  • #2507
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    EazyD wrote: »
    It works both ways to be fair
    That's true.


  • #2508
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    I agree with metered water charges
    Im after watchong the whole sunday-world video and the thought that comes to my mind is that it is a disgrace that this government has brought the country to this.

    Corruption is rife from the gardai to the business sector. A lot of people need to be imprisoned.


  • #2509
    arse..biscuits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    I agree with metered water charges
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    The rent a mobs have been around a lot longer than IW.

    What's all this about "rent-a-mob"?
    I was there, when do I get paid?


  • #2510
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Pocoyo wrote: »
    Corruption is rife from the gardai to the business sector. A lot of people need to be imprisoned.

    It's Ireland FFS.
    Corruption is seen as a good thing.


  • #2511
    greenfield21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    How so did I say he did not chuck something ? but last time I checked real bricks don't bounce of windows then bounce on top of a car then hit a light bar then magically bounce right instead of carrying on over the car. Back window of that car would not be laminated it would be standard safety glass that shatters.

    There is a video, Sunday world link in previous page. It's just a bad screen shot


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  • #2512
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    How so did I say he did not chuck something ? but last time I checked real bricks don't bounce off windows then bounce on top of a car then hit a light bar then magically bounce right instead of carrying on over the car. Back window of that car would not be laminated it would be standard safety glass that shatters.

    I did think that myself.

    I haven't seen the video.


  • #2513
    moxin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    DO'B has something around a 30% interest in the Indo and even that holding is quite recent. The Indo had the same editorial line when O'Reilly had the larger stake.

    People like to pick their bogeyman; it helps them to focus their anger.

    D O'Brien(exiled tax billionaire) is a majority shareholder in the Indo and owns under dubious circumstances(that Anglos debt write-off) Siteserv who own GMC the water meter installers. Conflict of interest indeed.

    Oh, he owns Newstalk, the Herald, Today FM, FM104 and 50% of the Daily Star and of course Topaz. (he appointed Cowen on their board)


  • #2514
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    How so did I say he did not chuck something ? but last time I checked real bricks don't bounce of windows then bounce on top of a car then hit a light bar then magically bounce right instead of carrying on over the car. Back window of that car would not be laminated it would be standard safety glass that shatters.

    So the guy throwing the brick-like object at the Garda car wasn't throwing a brick at all?
    Was he an art student throwing a block of polystyrene as part of a real time artistic interpretation of the ongoing protest?


  • #2515
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    arse..biscuits wrote: »
    What's all this about "rent-a-mob"?
    I was there, when do I get paid?

    Rent-a-mob's who've never worked a day in their lives.

    The irony of those kind of statements is just to much.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #2516
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    moxin wrote: »
    D O'Brien(exiled tax billionaire) is a majority shareholder in the Indo

    Is he? I thought he was a minority shareholder. Maybe he bought more shares recently?


  • #2517
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    moxin wrote: »
    D O'Brien(exiled tax billionaire) is a majority shareholder in the Indo and owns under dubious circumstances(that Anglos debt write-off) Siteserv who own GMC the water meter installers. Conflict of interest indeed.

    Oh, he owns Newstalk, the Herald, Today FM, FM104 and 50% of the Daily Star and of course Topaz. (he appointed Cowen on their board)


    Topaz won a 20m contract last weektoo with the government


  • #2518
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    So the guy throwing the brick-like object at the Garda car wasn't throwing a brick at all?
    Was he an art student throwing a block of polystyrene as part of a real time artistic interpretation of the ongoing protest?

    Has he been arrested?


  • #2519
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Phoebas wrote: »
    So the guy throwing the brick-like object at the Garda car wasn't throwing a brick at all?
    Was he an art student throwing a block of polystyrene as part of a real time artistic interpretation of the ongoing protest?

    I have no idea, But I do know who would benefit more from having pictures of "Protestors" throwing objects at Garda cars. And that's not the protestors. Something smells off about this convenient incident.


  • #2520
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I have no idea, But I do know who would benefit more from having pictures of "Protestors" throwing objects at Garda cars. And that's not the protestors. Something smells off about this convenient incident.

    There's defo something fishy about it.
    Two teenagers were arrested and not for this incident.
    Coppers all over the place and this lad gets away.....
    Something's up.


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  • #2521
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Has he been arrested?

    I've no idea.
    Are we now going to head down the rabbit hole of 'if he wasn't convicted he didn't do it'?


    Take the blue pill.


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