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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #2402
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    EazyD wrote: »
    The great unwashed? Are you really that ignorant?

    De twist

    pl n
    2. the great unwashed the masses


  • #2403
    LookingFor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    efb wrote: »
    Great private schoolboy enraging the great unwashed

    Nothing private about my schooling, darling. About as opposite as it gets in Dublin, actually.

    It's just an observation about the orientation of the protests, when it seems to me it's missing the big fish. And there is one clear beneficiary of all that.

    edit - if you're referring to Paul Murphy, i might agree...although I know nothing of his background, so sorry if I missed the reference :P


  • #2404
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    efb wrote: »
    ???

    'sense of entitlement' = public sector employees.


  • #2405
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    JRant wrote: »
    Why on earth wasn't it incorporated into the LPT though?

    I mean if it's going to be a flat charge they could have saved themselves a huge headache.

    Because one charge goes to the state, the other to Irish Water.
    AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »
    So the 100,000 people(number from rte) out protesting a few weeks ago don't pay tax? It's very easy to say the only people who don't want to pay water tax are "dole scrounging rent a mobs" but clearly the demographic from the many many protests up and down the country discredit that. I'm sure the crowd on the 10th of December will just be dole scum as well :rolleyes:

    I've no doubt there are genuine people who believe it would be better but I just consider them misguided.


  • #2406
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    LookingFor wrote: »
    Nothing private about my schooling, darling. About as opposite as it gets in Dublin, actually.

    It's just an observation about the orientation of the protests, when it seems to me it's missing the big fish. And there is one clear beneficiary of all that.

    Paul Murphy dear


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  • #2407
    moxin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Remember the woman in the tent with her kids? Her very words when asked about going on holidays to Spain while claiming poverty "I'm entitled to my holiday". Summed it all up for me.

    Now you're trying to link a scammer(in my eyes also) to the anti-water charge protesters. How low can you stoop? Gutter boardsieism.


  • #2408
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    efb wrote: »
    Then comes acceptance and defending the action

    This just gets better. A scummy guy threw a brick at a Garda Car- how is that protesting???

    As long as you are shouting "peaceful protest" apparently anything goes.


  • #2409
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    efb wrote: »
    De twist

    pl n
    2. the great unwashed the masses

    Having issues with the keyboard or what's the story?


  • #2410
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Yea, it's on facebook at the moment.

    Any details? Is it an angry mob?


  • #2411
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    Maybe I'm not techie savvy enough, but why did it look fake?

    And why would anybody doctoring a photo that will be seen by 100s of thousands
    do it badly (if it is done badly)?

    And why would they do it at all? A massive risk for a fairly minimal gain methinks?

    It looks fake because there appears to be a white "halo" effect around the piece of turf, suggesting it wad superimposed on the photo, there's also some distortion of pixels in the area of the piece of wood, the guys left foot is not visible, his hand is very blurred, but the brick is very clear.


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  • #2412
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    tigger123 wrote: »
    Any details? Is it an angry mob?

    https://www.facebook.com/TirNaSaor/posts/833698270003032

    Umm....
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2glDP6IIAAZEpL.jpg


  • #2413
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    EazyD wrote: »
    Having issues with the keyboard or what's the story?

    You were the one with issue with the use of my phrase so I defined it for you


  • #2414
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    tigger123 wrote: »
    Any details? Is it an angry mob?

    One man and a large van by the looks of it.
    They shouldn't stop the independent group's rags from being distributed.
    The more people who see through the lies of DO'B's fiction, the better.


  • #2415
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Stargate wrote: »
    Anyone else hearing this ?

    Blockade at Independent News and Media,City West happening now .

    Photos or GTFO. No, wait, not photos - I need to see video.
    On second thoughts, a confirmation tweet from Paul Murphy or GTFO.


  • #2416
    LookingFor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    efb wrote: »
    Paul Murphy dear

    Yeah, sorry, I missed that and only realised after I hit post... he didn't strike me as the private schoolboy type, but then I know little about his background ;) But yeah, he's definitely done well in mobilising people toward his specific political aims with this issue.

    Enda must be cackling.


  • #2417
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    EazyD wrote: »
    Why so many questions when the only one that really needs to be asked is,

    Why are you generalising when you have zero factual basis to do so? Saying none of them pay tax is total crap and you know it.

    No it's not. I know Jobstown extremely well and I am telling you right now a good portion of those protesting are unemployed. Note I have not said majority but that would not surprise me.


    People should get real here particularly in these areas. There is a class of people in this country who want to subvert this state. Some are republican and some are just common gurriers. These are dangerous people. They don't give a damn about your water charges or anything else. They want to cause trouble and get their representatives in the dail. They want any pragmatic government out. All these loose groups of leeches do and all they have ever done is take from us and involve themselves in criminality.

    These protests are allowing them to infiltrate peaceful protests and giving them exposure under the mistaken belief by some that they are genuine water charge protesters. They are not. There is a sinister element to these actions. I hope people realise that and don't allow them to mix in their protests.


  • #2418
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    efb wrote: »
    You were the one with issue with the use of my phrase so I defined it for you

    It wasn't exactly coherent though, was it?


  • #2419
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    One man and a large van by the looks of it.
    They shouldn't stop the independent group's rags from being distributed.
    The more people who see through the lies of DO'B's fiction, the better.

    Sounds like a lone headbanger, as opposed to a protest.


  • #2420
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Going Forward wrote: »
    It looks fake because there appears to be a white "halo" effect around the piece of turf, suggesting it wad superimposed on the photo, there's also some distortion of pixels in the area of the piece of wood, the guys left foot is not visible, his hand is very blurred, but the brick is very clear.

    And its pretty tough to throw a brick with two feet a foot off the ground. Its not generally the way people throw things it requires one foot to be on the ground for balance.

    Its anatomy.


  • #2421
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    EazyD wrote: »
    It wasn't exactly coherent though, was it?

    I had no problem with it


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  • #2422
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    I agree with metered water charges
    New photo released by the indo i am shocked by the acts carried out by these 'dissidents' This latest image is a step too far imo.


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10305970_10202578065367466_6461787826703689452_n.jpg?oh=8b1e21e1ffccc72206b3be3d21be3088&oe=54DB4678&__gda__=1423069959_51a17d37e473693534cedacfc2e299a5


  • #2423
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    One man and a large van by the looks of it.
    They shouldn't stop the independent group's rags from being distributed.
    The more people who see through the lies of DO'B's fiction, the better.

    The video is proof of the man throwing the brick. Still think the photo's fake?


  • #2424
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    I agree with metered water charges
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/227748/328461.jpeg


  • #2425
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    No it's not. I know Jobstown extremely well and I am telling you right now a good portion of those protesting are unemployed. Note I have not said majority but that would not surprise me.


    People should get real here particularly in these areas. There is a class of people in this country who want to subvert this state. Some are republican and some are just common gurriers. These are dangerous people. They don't give a damn about your water charges or anything else. They want to cause trouble and get their representatives in the dail. They want any pragmatic government out. All these loose groups of leeches do and all they have ever done is take from us and involve themselves in criminality.

    These protests are allowing them to infiltrate peaceful protests and giving them exposure under the mistaken belief by some that they are genuine water charge protesters. They are not. There is a sinister element to these actions. I hope people realise that and don't allow them to mix in their protests.

    There was at least one Socialist Councillor along with Paul Murphy, neither of whom are from the area.


  • #2426
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Deleted User wrote: »
    The video is proof of the man throwing the brick. Still think the photo's fake?

    Ah Mary, I'm just happy in the knowledge that me and my fellow Dubs are keeping your streetlights on and your footpaths in good order.
    It's all take take take with you lot, isn't it.....


  • #2427
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    No it's not. I know Jobstown extremely well and I am telling you right now a good portion of those protesting are unemployed. Note I have not said majority but that would not surprise me.


    People should get real here particularly in these areas. There is a class of people in this country who want to subvert this state. Some are republican and some are just common gurriers. These are dangerous people. They don't give a damn about your water charges or anything else. They want to cause trouble and get their representatives in the dail. They want any pragmatic government out. All these loose groups of leeches do and all they have ever done is take from us and involve themselves in criminality.

    These protests are allowing them to infiltrate peaceful protests and giving them exposure under the mistaken belief by some that they are genuine water charge protesters. They are not. There is a sinister element to these actions. I hope people realise that and don't allow them to mix in their protests.

    This that them Brush paint stereotype tallaght jobstown # scum

    Forward slash join equals


    Waffle



    Sound bites of Waffle


  • #2428
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    No it's not. I know Jobstown extremely well and I am telling you right now a good portion of those protesting are unemployed. Note I have not said majority but that would not surprise me.


    People should get real here particularly in these areas. There is a class of people in this country who want to subvert this state. Some are republican and some are just common gurriers. These are dangerous people. They don't give a damn about your water charges or anything else. They want to cause trouble and get their representatives in the dail. They want any pragmatic government out. All these loose groups of leeches do and all they have ever done is take from us and involve themselves in criminality.

    These protests are allowing them to infiltrate peaceful protests and giving them exposure under the mistaken belief by some that they are genuine water charge protesters. They are not. There is a sinister element to these actions. I hope people realise that and don't allow them to mix in their protests.

    It's a pity then that you claim to know it well but have so little knowledge of it. My family grew up right beside Jobstown, it's a very different area now to how it was 10-20 years. Garda relations in the area were vastly improved and the prevalence of open dealing/using had declined massively as a result. So your very wrong on that front.


  • #2429
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    EazyD wrote: »
    It's a pity then that you claim to know it well but have so little knowledge of it. My family grew up right beside Jobstown, it's a very different area now to how it was 10-20 years. Garda relations in the area were vastly improved and the prevalence of open dealing/using had declined massively as a result. So your very wrong on that front.

    He deals on waffle hearsay and nonsense.

    I wouldnt pay much heed to that type of commentary


  • #2430
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    First world problems and all valid questions incidentally. Why are people pissing welfare money down pub toilets? Why do they have satellite tv when so many workers struggle to have or maintain that? Why are they going on holidays when so many workers can not afford it? Why shouldn't they cover their own bills like the rest of us?

    Your posts have a definite whiff of welfare fetish about them.

    Welfare wasn't mentioned yet you immediately wade in!!

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • #2431
    Stargate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    A bit more then that.

    SNTG+JOBESTOWN+1.jpg

    In fairness to you Phoebas , i just seen something in the link .
    Maybe i am reading too much into it , but hey ?

    The word " ALTERNATES " and " JOBESTOWN+1" appears in the link address.


    The photo in my opinion does look a bit iffy , don't know if you read the link or just copied and pasted ?

    Not saying you deliberately mislead anyone , not saying that . I think you posted the foto in good faith.


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