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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #1922
    Highflyer13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    teddy_303 wrote: »
    mary, water is one of the 4 basic elements of the earth. it is no more a utility than the other 3, earth, wind or fire. if you have your way, we will have to pay a royalty payment to some other tin pot hitler to light a fire in your own home. oh yes, thats coming down the line in respect of carbon tax. i hope you wake up to the nonsensical corpo facist ideology you are talking on here, assuming you don't already know its utter bunkum you are saying.

    Yep, Water being an endless resource that people require for basic survival it makes sense for the fat cats to profit out of an endless stream of revenue. The 'new oil' I have heard water being called. Pure greed.


  • #1923
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    So, now that they're talking about €200 for the average family and not the €400 plus it was going to be, where do you think the additional subvention is going to come from?
    IW will be operating at a massive loss on €200 from the average family.
    It's a scam, nothing more, nothing less.

    Add to that, if the charges are indeed to be capped, then that means there are millions of euros worth of meters lying in the ground......

    Someone, (i think maybe you Tinkersbell) called these FGs Evoting machines. Very apt.


  • #1924
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    Not sure what that has to do with what I posted? :confused:

    Where do you think the additional money IW needs will come from?


  • #1925
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    And what will they spend all these billions on?

    I Bet it will not all be on the infrastructure as they're saying..


  • #1926
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    For those of you who were confused earlier, this behavior is Wilful Obstruction under Section 9 of the Public Order Act.

    LOL.:D

    She's well paid to be 'wilfully obstructed'.
    Think of the extra time her driver will be paid too.
    It's a win win for the moan and her lackeys.


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  • #1927
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Highflyer13 wrote: »
    Yep, Water is necessary for human survival. Water being an endless resource that people require for basic survival it makes sense for the fat cats to profit out of an endless stream of revenue. The 'new oil' I have heard water being called. Pure greed.

    The problem with that comparison is that it is extremely easy for someone to become completely self sufficient with collecting and disposing of their own water with a small inititial investment. Try make your own petrol and see how far you get. We need water, but we don't need water suppliers. We are not a country in drought so we will never be completely dependent on any water supplier.


  • #1928
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    For those of you who were confused earlier, this behavior is Wilful Obstruction under Section 9 of the Public Order Act.

    Thanks for that, Lionel Hutz.

    Bet you're great craic at parties.


  • #1929
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Banjo String wrote: »
    Thanks for that, Lionel Hutz.

    ROTFL!!!!!!
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • #1930
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,076 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    For those of you who were confused earlier, this behavior is Wilful Obstruction under Section 9 of the Public Order Act.

    Bit two-faced there in fairness.
    You had the opposite view yesterday to a resident not being allowed to close his gate or remove trespassers from his property.
    You can't argue both sides.


  • #1931
    Stargate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Phone Joan blocked in in Tallaght. She should get out and talk to the people who voted her in.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=728756540551031&set=a.482549795171708.1073741825.100002500748674&type=1&theater
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    For those of you who were confused earlier, this behavior is Wilful Obstruction under Section 9 of the Public Order Act.
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    LOL.:D

    LoL :D X2


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  • #1932
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Stargate wrote: »
    LoL :D X2

    Ah, God love her.
    Tick tock........:pac:
    Hope she has a car charger for the phone.....and a potty....


  • #1933
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    Banjo String wrote: »
    I want Irish Water as an entity abolished. It's an unnecessary quango.
    No to metered water or just no to IW?

    Banjo String wrote: »
    At least you admit freely that, that's what this is all about. Many on here would have you believe it's all about conservation.
    Well I was addressing your point on motor / alcohol / cig tax (as well you know!). But I don't care what you call it. Call my lecky bill a tax if you like - I still have to pay it
    Banjo String wrote: »
    Water is just an asset that can be metered, and paddy can be horsed on it.
    I have no idea what that means! Something not good I presume?


  • #1934
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Bit two-faced there in fairness.
    You had the opposite view yesterday to a resident not being allowed to close his gate or remove trespassers from his property.
    You can't argue both sides.

    QFT Tayto.

    Bingo.


  • #1935
    Stargate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    For those of you who were confused earlier, this behavior is Wilful Obstruction under Section 9 of the Public Order Act.
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Bit two-faced there in fairness.
    You had the opposite view yesterday to a resident not being allowed to close his gate or remove trespassers from his property.
    You can't argue both sides.

    Touchdown !!

    Nail on big fat head ;)


  • #1936
    Worple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭Worple


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    For those of you who were confused earlier, this behavior is Wilful Obstruction under Section 9 of the Public Order Act.

    Talking to yourself now ?


  • #1937
    Highflyer13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Phone Joan blocked in in Tallaght. She should get out and talk to the people who voted her in.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=728756540551031&set=a.482549795171708.1073741825.100002500748674&type=1&theater

    Going to Jobstown. Does she even realise the level of public anger over the water charges? A stupid move.


  • #1938
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Stargate wrote: »
    Touchdown !!

    Nail on big fat head ;)

    Yeah but of course he will have some twisted logic.



    Wait for it, its coming.....


  • #1939
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Bit two-faced there in fairness.
    You had the opposite view yesterday to a resident not being allowed to close his gate or remove trespassers from his property.
    You can't argue both sides.

    Yes you can, that's the basis of our legal system. The Irish Water guys had legal authority to be where they were, the protesters don't. It's not a difficult concept.


  • #1940
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Yes you can, that's the basis of our legal system. The Irish Water guys had legal authority to be where they were, the protesters don't. It's not a difficult concept.

    The 'IW guys' were trespassing on that man's property.
    No two ways about it.
    You see what you want to see....:rolleyes:

    BTW, the protesters in the FB picture are on a public street.
    Are people not allowed on a public street now?


  • #1941
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    No to metered water or just no to IW?

    No to both. I don't mind paying for water, I never have.

    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    Well I was addressing your point on motor / alcohol / cig tax (as well you know!). But I don't care what you call it. Call my lecky bill a tax if you like - I still have to pay it

    I think you missed my point. That being that this is a revenue raising exercise.

    Water is something we will always need, and they have an indefinite supply. It can be easily meterd, meaning the citizens can be easily exploited.

    Something very, very peculiar about a Govt going to such lengths to collect a paltry sum of money (in the grand scheme of things)

    But with meters fitted, they become a ticking time bomb.
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    I have no idea what that means! Something not good I presume?

    bless your innocence. :)


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  • #1942
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Yes you can, that's the basis of our legal system. The Irish Water guys had legal authority to be where they were, the protesters don't. It's not a difficult concept.

    See twisted nonfactual logic


    knew it would come.


  • #1943
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,076 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Yes you can, that's the basis of our legal system. The Irish Water guys had legal authority to be where they were, the protesters don't. It's not a difficult concept.

    So you are saying that the householder had no right to close his gate.
    Because that right was denied to him in the same way as Joan's right of travel was denied.


  • #1944
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Yes you can, that's the basis of our legal system. The Irish Water guys had legal authority to be where they were , the protesters don't. It's not a difficult concept.

    Remember what Enda said......
    "All Irish people believe that a man's house is his castle.

    Irish Water sub contractors have no legal authority to be inside his private residence.

    Let's see you pull out the legal act which counters that.


  • #1945
    Stargate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Yes you can, that's the basis of our legal system. The Irish Water guys had legal authority to be where they were, the protesters don't. It's not a difficult concept.
    listermint wrote: »
    See twisted nonfactual logic


    knew it would come.

    To quote a good ole Cork Tune

    " In Cork he is known as a langer " :pac: :p


  • #1946
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    tayto lover wrote: »
    So you are saying that the householder had no right to close his gate.
    Because that right was denied to him in the same way as Joan's right of travel was denied.

    First of all, it's ludicrous to compare trapping someone in their car to blocking a driveway for work on pipes. The two things aren't even remotely comparable.

    Second, I never said the householder didn't have the right to close his gate, I said he didn't have the right to attack the workers, which is what he did.


  • #1947
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,076 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    First of all, it's ludicrous to compare trapping someone in their car to blocking a driveway for work on pipes. The two things aren't even remotely comparable.

    Second, I never said the householder didn't have the right to close his gate, I said he didn't have the right to attack the workers, which is what he did.

    You said the IW people were not doing anything wrong.

    They opened his gate without his permission.

    But he was wrong to try and close his own gate.


  • #1948
    Worple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭Worple


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Yes you can, that's the basis of our legal system. The Irish Water guys had legal authority to be where they were, the protesters don't. It's not a difficult concept.

    Your dream world of a super right wing oppressive state is not going to materialise

    Householder had no legal authority to be on his property ?


  • #1949
    Stargate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    First of all, it's ludicrous to compare trapping someone in their car to blocking a driveway for work on pipes. The two things aren't even remotely comparable.

    Second, I never said the householder didn't have the right to close his gate, I said he didn't have the right to attack the workers, which is what he did.

    But its ok to " PowerHose " someone, oh i forgot they have Government backing to do that ...silly me , Cork Langer .


  • #1950
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    It wasn't the householder that was pressure washing the genitals.

    Did he condemn that btw?


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  • #1951
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,634 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Banjo String wrote: »


    I think you missed my point. That being that this is a revenue raising exercise.

    Water is something we will always need, and they have an indefinite supply. It can be easily meterd, meaning the citizens can be easily exploited.

    Something very, very peculiar about a Govt going to such lengths to collect a paltry sum of money (in the grand scheme of things)

    But with meters fitted, they become a ticking time bomb.

    There you have it. You will be paying for water for as long as you are using it and whoever comes after you. The water bill will just be like the phone bill or the electric bill. And the protestors will have moved on to something else.


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