**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

Barely There wrote: »

I'll take this one.
the other is a real video showing protestors acting like scumbags?

To which specific video are you referring to, the one where people are peacefully protesting and are being vocal as you do on a march or the ones where the guards are dragging people away and people are being vocal

Or is it the infamous coolock video where actually no arrests were made and the guards pepper sprayed people but wait yes youll come back with theres only one side to that story and blah blah blah blah blah same ****e different day

Shin

listermint wrote: »

Your a gas man,

How is that we have to wait till what is it 74 for pension ? and i can officially retire at 50 odd and draw a pension from a county manage job a pension that is ring fenced and way above average wage. And then float of into another semistate to get more crazy money.

Thats not jealously ya spaz, Thats plain and simple misappropriation of my very important tax money.

I am not here to subsidise that nonsense. Pensions shouldnt be handed out that early or by choice. Utter madness.

Ok if people care where was the uproar over the last months over the cutting of thousands of pensions?

Pensions are handy out early in majority of pension schemes you can retire at age 50 - that is fact - whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

you have to wait to "74" for state pension - which you seem to think will actually be around - probably not. But of course you expect it to be - just like you expect not to have to pay water tax



these county mangers you talk about are probably in schemes with assets invested - but again you don't see that you just assume you are paying for it.

All schemes have rules - maybe take a look at your own and see what your entitled to take - maybe very surprised.

Should they be getting 100k a year for a shell company that hasn't made any money - probably not - it should have been a simple set up like the property tax.

But to bring individual previous pensions arrangements into it is just wrong when you clearly do not know how it works

Have deleted the video wasn't exactly helping matters that it was up no point in derailing anything if theres questions marks over it

as for the rest please continue

Shin

Tinkersbell wrote: »

Aren't PS pensions paid from the 'current account' of the government?
When you say schemes are you sure you don't mean 'scams'?

Yea I was thinking of semi state bodies when I wrote that part - but fairly sure that PS employees actually contribute part of their salary as well to their pension which goes into a fund.

Anyway it's away from the main topic of water -

Barely There wrote: »

Aww look.

Baby step, baby steps.

Stargate wrote: »

He should be applauded , he said " if theres questions marks over it " He removed the link . His mind was open , unlike yours i'm afraid !!

imagine respecting others views even when you disagree with them , :eek:

An notion that would make many a sheep head explode .....

Stargate wrote: »

Here's a homily for you ....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2JNpHEIUAAliIT.jpg:large

I think what irritates me most about this letter, apart from the dripping sentimentality, is that she has basically refused to acknowledge all parts of personal responsibility from the situation and effectively set up a scenario where everything is the government's fault no matter what she does.

"I have to put my children in a baby jail while I work, reducing their quality of life" - Government's fault
"I've quit work and taken my children out to improve their quality of life, but now I have less disposable income" - Government's fault

It's a bullsh1t letter. She wants to be able to have kids, one income, and be loaded all at the same time. Don't we all.

Maybe she thought, "Hey, perhaps having two children when the country is in the economic ****ter might not be a great idea, given the cost of the childcare and the harsh budgets we are facing. Nah, fnck it, let's go. We can just blame the government for everything".

seamus wrote: »

I think what irritates me most about this letter, apart from the dripping sentimentality, is that she has basically refused to acknowledge all parts of personal responsibility from the situation and effectively set up a scenario where everything is the government's fault no matter what she does.

"I have to put my children in a baby jail while I work, reducing their quality of life" - Government's fault
"I've quit work and taken my children out to improve their quality of life, but now I have less disposable income" - Government's fault

It's a bullsh1t letter. She wants to be able to have kids, one income, and be loaded all at the same time. Don't we all.

Maybe she thought, "Hey, perhaps having two children when the country is in the economic ****ter might not be a great idea, given the cost of the childcare and the harsh budgets we are facing. Nah, fnck it, let's go. We can just blame the government for everything".

Guess there lies your problem - No Compassion - all about money at the end of the day .

Blame the Government you say ? Well here's the thing , ...its a long story but ... " Insert Bank bailouts/Troika/ BS "

Stargate wrote: »

Guess there lies your problem - No Compassion - all about money at the end of the day .

I've plenty of compassion. I'm not sure what use compassion is though. She's one of hundreds of thousands of families who've made the same decision in the good times and the bad. That's how this stuff works. She chose to have kids and put them in childcare. Now she regrets that decision, but somehow it's the government's fault?

What's the point of her letter? That she should get an extra tax break?

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I'm sure we can point to other EU countries that give tax breaks and affordable childcare. But that will be shouted down with we are not other EU countries. And in the same voice shout we need to pay for water like every other EU country. Guessing depends on what agenda you are trying to push. Odd that we only seem to be pushed into the whole oh the EU does that when it's extra charges.

people in Ireland like to compare Ireland with every other country in the world but also ignore everything that is also wrong with that said country

Creative Juices wrote: »

From Fine Gael's New Politics document...

The fundamental goal of Fine Gael’s New Politics is to build a New Republic where the
peoples’ concerns are placed at the centre of government. In a Republic, the people are
supposed to be supreme. Judged by that simple standard, Ireland today is a Republic in name
only. The expressions “Golden Circle”, “Crony Government” and “Cosy Capitalism” all
describe the same thing: The abduction of our Republic by both public and private sector
vested interests, aided and abetted by the present Government.

Incidentally they pulled their New politics document from the FG website, I wonder why.

You missed the best part on how they would fund 'new era' the document says:

According to the programme for Government, NewEra would be financed by the sale of State assets, when market conditions are suitable for such sales and adequate regulatory structures are in place to facilitate such sales.

And they wont why people fear privatisation is on the way...