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Which Camera? **Please read OP first**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    I am on the lookout for a good decent quality camera. What I want is something that will do photos good enough for to print in a parish magazine. Been told that something of at least 18mp would be wanted. Been looking at the 2 above, I have a liking for Sony products in general, but would either of those fit the bill of what I'm looking for, or indeed, what is the difference between them.
    Quality photos is my priority with some capacity for video.

    Firstly those are both hyperzoom cameras so are great for shooting subjects REALLY far away like for wildlife for example. If you are primarily shooting people for a parish mag then the focal length is overkill and you would be better looking at at advanced compact with better image quality.

    First thing to ask yourself is what will you be shooting and then we can suggest a camera to fit your needs.

    Also whoever told you you need 18mp to print in a parish mag was probably trying to sell you a camera and doesn't actually know what they were talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    I am on the lookout for a good decent quality camera. What I want is something that will do photos good enough for to print in a parish magazine. Been told that something of at least 18mp would be wanted. Been looking at the 2 above, I have a liking for Sony products in general, but would either of those fit the bill of what I'm looking for, or indeed, what is the difference between them.
    Quality photos is my priority with some capacity for video.

    18MP is roughly A3 at print resolution. TBH, these days I don't think you'll find a camera with resolution low enough to create a print issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    I am about to become a grandfather, so am now looking to get a camera to photograph the new baby (and other nieces/nephews). Here's my criteria.
    • Small (has to fit in my pocket)
    • Zoom not important
    • Fast shot time (for children/babies)
    • Low light, a lot of indoor photos
    • Fairly cheap (I'll probably break it!)

    Thinking the Fuji XF1 might suit -

    I see they can be had for €160 or so. Looks like it ticks a lot of boxes, can any informed types give me opinions?

    Looks like a deal if it's only 160 euro. Having a quick look on amazon reviews here are my 2 cents.

    [*]Small (has to fit in my pocket) - Yup
    [*]Zoom not important - 26mm - 100mm is a good range from large groups to headshots.
    [*]Fast shot time (for children/babies) - I assume you mean how fast it focuses and takes the shot? If so then yes.
    [*]Low light, a lot of indoor photos - It has a relatively large sensor and a f1.8 lens so looks like it would be very good in low light.
    [*]Fairly cheap (I'll probably break it!) - Buy a case!

    One small thing is turning it on is a bit fiddely apparently, you have to twist the zoom ring or something.

    I also love the look of the camera itself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭mollymaloney


    Many thanks for the replies--- much appreciated. I would be taking pictures of buildings, graveyard headstones, roadside monuments, etc---. Also of individuals and small groups. Wouldn't be photoing things at a distance that I would need powerful zoom. Pic quality is what's important-- both to print and upload to the web.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    Many thanks for the replies--- much appreciated. I would be taking pictures of buildings, graveyard headstones, roadside monuments, etc---. Also of individuals and small groups. Wouldn't be photoing things at a distance that I would need powerful zoom. Pic quality is what's important-- both to print and upload to the web.

    I would say look at sensor size (a far better indicator of image quality) and how wide it can shoot (for shooting large buildings when space might me an issue.

    For example, the Sony RX100 has a 1 inch sensor which is massive so image quality would be great. however it is pricey and it's widest is 28mm equiv which isn't that wide.

    The Canon s120 has a smaller but still large sensor and a wider angle lens (24mm) which might suit your needs better. It's also cheaper.

    I'm sure there are others similar but that's what I would recommend you look into.

    EDIT: the canon sensor is actually much smaller than I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭-Toppy-


    So the significant other saw one of these in action the other day and was quite smitten so I am considering purchasing one of them (nothing fancy family/scenary/quirky angle shots)

    https://www.sony.ie/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-qx30

    http://www.sony.ie/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-qx1-body-kit

    Obviously the second requires a lens with stabilization (and I like the fact I can pop in a spare battery)

    However I dont want to be paying massive money for the lens and the cheapest emount lens on the site is about 280 euro.

    Just wondering has anyone any advice on the cameras and on cheaper lens for them?

    Thanks
    Toppy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Roofer Andy


    I currently shoot with a Canon 5d mk 2 im now looking for a second 5d mk 3, if any one has a 5d mk 3 for sale, please get in touch.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    I currently shoot with a Canon 5d mk 2 im now looking for a second 5d mk 3, if any one has a 5d mk 3 for sale, please get in touch.

    Thanks

    I'm waiting for the mark 4 to come out. It's well overdue and would bring the used price down for the mark 3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    -Toppy- wrote: »
    So the significant other saw one of these in action the other day and was quite smitten so I am considering purchasing one of them (nothing fancy family/scenary/quirky angle shots)

    https://www.sony.ie/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-qx30

    http://www.sony.ie/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-qx1-body-kit

    Obviously the second requires a lens with stabilization (and I like the fact I can pop in a spare battery)

    However I dont want to be paying massive money for the lens and the cheapest emount lens on the site is about 280 euro.

    Just wondering has anyone any advice on the cameras and on cheaper lens for them?

    Thanks
    Toppy

    I think if you were going down the route of buying lenses then you should just get a dslr. The ergonomics of the mount, a big lens, and your phone would be awkward and expensive.

    The first one looks cool, and it has a massive zoom range that you would have to pay a small fortune for with the second system.

    Thing is though, what is the advantage of them? You can get a dedicated camera with wifi that can work with your phone anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Roofer Andy


    candytog wrote: »
    I'm waiting for the mark 4 to come out. It's well overdue and would bring the used price down for the mark 3.

    Thats a thought - thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭-Toppy-


    candytog wrote: »
    I think if you were going down the route of buying lenses then you should just get a dslr. The ergonomics of the mount, a big lens, and your phone would be awkward and expensive.

    The first one looks cool, and it has a massive zoom range that you would have to pay a small fortune for with the second system.

    Thing is though, what is the advantage of them? You can get a dedicated camera with wifi that can work with your phone anyway.

    Thanks Candytog

    Well it doesnt necessarily have to be mounted, you can literally hold the lens in your hand and you can viewfind with the phone

    Advantage... significant other likes it :) but a lot of it is ease of use etc (well the person she saw using it swears by it)

    I suppose the first one I am worried about battery life - i know you can swap the battery in the 2nd but it isnt clear if you can in the first
    Cheers
    Toppy


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    -Toppy- wrote: »
    Thanks Candytog

    Well it doesnt necessarily have to be mounted, you can literally hold the lens in your hand and you can viewfind with the phone

    Advantage... significant other likes it :) but a lot of it is ease of use etc (well the person she saw using it swears by it)

    I suppose the first one I am worried about battery life - i know you can swap the battery in the 2nd but it isnt clear if you can in the first
    Cheers
    Toppy

    What's In The Box
    Rechargeable Battery Pack NP-BN
    Micro USB cable
    Wrist Strap

    It must take the sony n type batteries according to the full specs so you can buy an extra one and swap it out.

    EDIT:

    178 g (Body only), 193 g (With battery and media)

    it def has a removable battery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭-Toppy-


    Thanks CandyTog!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    -Toppy- wrote: »
    Thanks Candytog

    Well it doesnt necessarily have to be mounted, you can literally hold the lens in your hand and you can viewfind with the phone

    Advantage... significant other likes it :) but a lot of it is ease of use etc (well the person she saw using it swears by it)

    I suppose the first one I am worried about battery life - i know you can swap the battery in the 2nd but it isnt clear if you can in the first
    Cheers
    Toppy

    Youtube 'unboxing' videos are very helpful here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQxz7V09WUY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭mollymaloney


    Been looking online at the Sony rx100 and I think it might be what I'm looking for. Pixmania are selling it for around 408 euro and eglobal central are retailing at 325--. That's a pretty significant difference. Only thing is that my suspicious mind tells me there is a catch somewhere. Anyone got any ideas about it-- is it just the paranoia returning with me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Been looking online at the Sony rx100 and I think it might be what I'm looking for. Pixmania are selling it for around 408 euro and eglobal central are retailing at 325--. That's a pretty significant difference. Only thing is that my suspicious mind tells me there is a catch somewhere. Anyone got any ideas about it-- is it just the paranoia returning with me?

    The possibility of VAT and duty being added upon arrival from HK?

    Onestop Digital will refund these charges, if applied - http://www.onestop-digital.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=34106


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    This post has been deleted.

    Looks like a great camera. It shoots very wide (23mm) which is good for large buildings and landscapes, and also has a good zoom range.

    Alternatives would be the panasonic TZ series and Sony hx models. All great cameras each with their own pros and cons.

    It doesn't take a full size SD which is unusual so you would need an adaptor. however it has really good connectivity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Pentax Q with 06 lenses. Its tiny and the lens is really versatile for travel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    This post has been deleted.

    I would echo the suggestions I made her: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057306192



    As a rule of thumb, the greater the zoom range the more likely compromises had to be made in the design and the lower the image quality. A zoom ratio of between 3.5 - 4.5 X seems to be about the limit before image quality drops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭smallgarden


    hello
    I'm looking for a compact point and shoot camera to replace a canon ixus 70. I am thinking of getting the canon ixus 265hs which is around 160euros but was wondering if anyone had any other recommendations. I've found the canon ixus really good to date. I was also looking at the powershot sx600 which would be about ten euros more than the ixus,
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Using a DSLR requires a learning curve. Even if all you do is use it on automatic mode, there are too many options for what you want.

    A good bridge camera will be your best option I think.

    Personally, I want the control that comes with a manual DSLR but that's just me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭sebphoto


    sashafierce take a look on Powershot G11, G12, G1x and similar cameras.
    At least you will have a chance to learn how to setup everything manually or if you're lazy you will use program mode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Hi folks

    I have been reading this thread for a long while and I am still not sure.

    We currently have a point and click Fuji which does nicely for outdoors as long as it is not landscape you want but fails miserably for indoor or action shots. Lighting is the issue.

    Indoor general use required but also dance hall (feis) at 30 feet away which always has poor lighting. These would be the action shots. I take the odd landscape shots but I am alone in the family in their appreciation.

    I decided on a DSLR to achieve lighting and shutter speed and in that repect it was between the nikon d3200 and the d3300. Better ISO in d3300 and reviews marginally better, especially for battery life. Prices vary wildly for each. Nikon because the menu system seems simpler than canon plus I had a canon camcorder and the software was bloody awful. I will not be post processing at all so SD card to PC will be extent of it.

    The bridge camera price seems too close to DSLR price to justify it and it just seems to be an expensive point and click. Should I stick with point and click (good bridge camera) or invest in DSLR for my requirements.

    Can you recommend a camera for my needs (family camera needs if I am honest).

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭kearneybobs


    My dad went with the Powershot S120. Ended up getting it for £230. Supposed to be really good in low light with the only downside being that the battery doesn't last that long.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    Damien360 wrote: »
    Hi folks

    I have been reading this thread for a long while and I am still not sure.

    We currently have a point and click Fuji which does nicely for outdoors as long as it is not landscape you want but fails miserably for indoor or action shots. Lighting is the issue.

    Indoor general use required but also dance hall (feis) at 30 feet away which always has poor lighting. These would be the action shots. I take the odd landscape shots but I am alone in the family in their appreciation.

    I decided on a DSLR to achieve lighting and shutter speed and in that repect it was between the nikon d3200 and the d3300. Better ISO in d3300 and reviews marginally better, especially for battery life. Prices vary wildly for each. Nikon because the menu system seems simpler than canon plus I had a canon camcorder and the software was bloody awful. I will not be post processing at all so SD card to PC will be extent of it.

    The bridge camera price seems too close to DSLR price to justify it and it just seems to be an expensive point and click. Should I stick with point and click (good bridge camera) or invest in DSLR for my requirements.

    Can you recommend a camera for my needs (family camera needs if I am honest).

    Thanks

    I think the key word there is "invest" in the dslr. If you spend the money on a bridge camera you will get an excellent camera but with a dslr you will get an excellent camera with the potential to become even better.

    The nikons will give you great low light performance due to their large image sensors. The weakest link with a new dslr is the it's lens so in time it is worth investing in a lens that suits your needs. Not that the lens is bad, it's just there are better to upgrade to.

    For example, a better lens will let in more light and make your camera even better in low light situations.

    Another point to consider is the zoom range on the kit lens will likely be only 4x optical. This is pretty standard in the dslr world but if you are used to a longer zoom range this is important. Of course you can purchase a longer lens if that's what you are looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    This post has been deleted.

    A 'Bridge' between a 'point and shoot' camera and a DSLR.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    This post has been deleted.

    It's a general term for an advanced digital camera that sits between a simple point and shoot and a dslr (or mirrorless cameras with removable lens).

    They typically have advanced features like manual controls and the ability to shoot raw while having a fixed lens.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    This post has been deleted.

    Bridge camera-
    a lot bigger than a compact but smaller than a Dslr.
    It has a viewfinder, MASSIVE zoom, focuses very close up compared to a Dslr.
    Have a look here.

    You can pay a lot for a top end one (€800) or not much for a standard one (€300).
    Picture quality isn't meant to be as good as a Dslr but for snapshots & picking it up as a hobby, general use camera who cares. It'll take 1/500 of a second of so longer than a dslr to take the photo but no big deal.

    I began with one and loved it. Great to start with as it's a jack of all trades. You could even buy one 2nd hand and if you get the photography bug sell it for pretty much the same price you paid for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭candytog


    dinneenp wrote: »
    Bridge camera-
    a lot bigger than a compact but smaller than a Dslr.
    It has a viewfinder, MASSIVE zoom, focuses very close up compared to a Dslr.
    Have a look here.

    You can pay a lot for a top end one (€800) or not much for a standard one (€300).
    Picture quality isn't meant to be as good as a Dslr but for snapshots & picking it up as a hobby, general use camera who cares. It'll take 1/500 of a second of so longer than a dslr to take the photo but no big deal.

    I began with one and loved it. Great to start with as it's a jack of all trades. You could even buy one 2nd hand and if you get the photography bug sell it for pretty much the same price you paid for it.

    The term is pretty arbitrary, there is no set criteria for a camera to be considered a "bridge". There are lots that don't have viewfinders or large zoom ranges. Superzooms are generally considered bridge cameras but so are others like the sony rx100.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    Bridge cameras usually have the same type/size sensors as P+S cameras. There is a huge difference in image quality and ISO performance so be careful.


    I took the route of p+s, bridge then dslr many moons ago. If you have the money and feel you have a passion for photography, my advice would be to leap straight for a DSLR. Don't fear it, they all have auto and are way easier to learn due they're responsiveness imo. Whatever brand you go for, the first thing I would get is a cheap 2nd hand 50mm f1.8 lense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 justoon


    alright so i was just about to buy Canon EOS 100D Digital SLR
    with EF-S 18-55 DC III and 40mm STM Lenses
    the whole package £500

    and then a friend offered me
    this
    Olympus E-420 with lenses for €100

    i wanted to buy a camera to get into photography and im stumped cause i know feck
    all
    what should i do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭arcius


    justoon wrote: »
    alright so i was just about to buy Canon EOS 100D Digital SLR
    with EF-S 18-55 DC III and 40mm STM Lenses
    the whole package £500

    and then a friend offered me
    this
    Olympus E-420 with lenses for €100

    i wanted to buy a camera to get into photography and im stumped cause i know feck
    all
    what should i do?

    Canon 100d is much much more advanced, much more newer and the image quality is much better because of the up to date processor. Go with it. Just don't pay 500 pounds as you can get it with that lens for around 470 euros delivered to your door ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 justoon


    arcius wrote: »
    Canon 100d is much much more advanced, much more newer and the image quality is much better because of the up to date processor. Go with it. Just don't pay 500 pounds as you can get it with that lens for around 470 euros delivered to your door ;)

    where will i get it for that price
    pm me or send here please

    regards
    j


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭arcius


    justoon wrote: »
    where will i get it for that price
    pm me or send here please

    regards
    j

    sent you a pm ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    Just wondering what would be the standard of camera needed to branch out into semi-professional photography, ie doing a few paid portrait shoots etc in spare time? I've been using a canon 1100d since my 650d went to heaven last year and I find it great for personal use but not sure if it would be good enough to use professionally. I have the standard 18-55 lens that came with the camera and also a 50mm 1.8f and a 70-200 f 4.0.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    Just wondering what would be the standard of camera needed to branch out into semi-professional photography, ie doing a few paid portrait shoots etc in spare time? I've been using a canon 1100d since my 650d went to heaven last year and I find it great for personal use but not sure if it would be good enough to use professionally. I have the standard 18-55 lens that came with the camera and also a 50mm 1.8f and a 70-200 f 4.0.

    I think lenses, lighting, editing software and maybe some props would be more important for portaits. Most entry level cameras will do a decent job. It depends on what you do with it and the quality of the lense that have the biggest impact.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    Brilliant that's what I was hoping thanks :) I have loads of props etc but could do with updating my studio equipment alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bpmurray


    I've had a few bridge cameras (the latest is a Lumix FZ72 with an insane 1200mm zoom) but I'd like to switch to something with a better sensor. I'm pretty confident that the future lies with mirrorless cameras, but I suspect that they're not yet at the same level as DSLRs.

    I'm pretty sure that the Nikon D3300 will give the most bang for the buck for the DSLR side of the argument, and there are a zillion mirrorless at that price point although most of them don't have a viewfinder.

    My question is: what's a good mirrorless and is it as good as the D3300?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    From my own experience. I've an Oly epl3 + 20mm 1.7 and it doesn't compare to my Nikon D90 or Fuji S5 + 30mm 1.4. Granted the Oly is all about size so everything is smaller which includes the sensor. So the main trade offs with the above are speed, viewfinder and depth of feild versus size.

    I wanted something small and it does come in handy but the results and handling are somewhere between a P+S and a DSLR.

    I dont keep with the times so I've no idea what the latest tech is. Maybe there is something new that closed the gap but you'll surely be looking at big bucks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    bpmurray wrote: »
    I've had a few bridge cameras (the latest is a Lumix FZ72 with an insane 1200mm zoom) but I'd like to switch to something with a better sensor. I'm pretty confident that the future lies with mirrorless cameras, but I suspect that they're not yet at the same level as DSLRs.

    I'm pretty sure that the Nikon D3300 will give the most bang for the buck for the DSLR side of the argument, and there are a zillion mirrorless at that price point although most of them don't have a viewfinder.

    My question is: what's a good mirrorless and is it as good as the D3300?

    Mirrorless cameras can now compete with DSLRs except the higher end full frames. AF tracking in low light and very high ISO are about the only areas where they are not equal.

    In terms of price, they aren't as competitive. Good ones with a viewfinder and IQ the equal of the D3300 would be the Olympus E-M10 at the lower end of the price range. It is more expensive than the D3300 but is also a lot smaller - as are the lenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭da_shivsta


    Okay so I have had a few compact cameras. My last one was the Canon Ixus 132. I really loved it but I lost it drunk in a taxi :(
    I went in to Curry's the other day looking at a few cameras. The Ixus 155 was there but it has some poor reviews online. It can be hard to tell what standards the reviews are based upon though. Obviously, with a compact camera you are not expecting professional quality really.
    I am no longer bringing my camera on a night out because all my friends have fancy phones with a flash anyway (which I don't have!!) and they take more than enough drunken snaps.

    Anyway, the long and the short of it - should I upgrade to a bridge camera?
    I can't afford a real SLR and anyway wouldn't need it. Some nice pictures of birds, butterflies, flowers and family and things like that are what I want. My friend has a bridge camera that is just sitting in her room because she says it isn't any better than a compact, really but it's bulkier. I don't know what brand it is or anything. I'm just looking for advice really???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭jos28


    First time posting in this forum and am looking for some advice. We are buying a camera for my son for his birthday. He's been doing his research and likes the Nikon d3200. Any ideas on the best place to look for one either new or second hand ?
    Any other suggestions in the same price bracket. It's his first 'real' camera and he'll be using it for a variety of things - nothing specific.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,132 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭jos28


    Thanks for that Cnocbui, nice prices on that link. The one he is looking at is €130 cheaper than anywhere else I checked. Might throw a bag in for him too at that rate.
    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭h_orse


    Hello guys,


    Was hoping to get a camera for the other half for xmass...

    I know nothing about cameras.

    She is mad for an upgrade, she only has a basic model think its canon at the min.


    Just saw this one advertised on the top of the page


    Canon EOS 100D

    Mad about Canon Cameras

    Basically taking photos quite alot and miminal videos



    Some pointers in the right direction would be brilliant....

    €400 to €450 max price wise


    Thanks in advance.....:o


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  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭h_orse


    arcius wrote: »
    Canon 100d is much much more advanced, much more newer and the image quality is much better because of the up to date processor. Go with it. Just don't pay 500 pounds as you can get it with that lens for around 470 euros delivered to your door ;)




    Help me out here pls.....

    :o:o:o

    Thank you


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