Love/Hate (v2) [ Spoilers ]

Gadgetman496 · 03-11-2014 01:43AM

Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »

Rather him gone than Fran or Midge

Who the fook is Midge?

irishgeo · 03-11-2014 01:44AM

Blay wrote: »

Nidge told Elmo and Mischa to get Fran and they just pulled him off the street.

Outside the cop shop where they knew he would be brought.

03-11-2014 01:45AM

Cienciano wrote: »

I thought the same. Is heroin not just measured in weight, presumably 1KG bags?

You know that an ounce is a unit of weight?
A "9" is street slang for 9 ounces of heroin, bar or bag same thing

A kilo of heroin is a tad large for street dealers to be playing with.

Ash.J.Williams · 03-11-2014 01:46AM

irishgeo wrote: »

It didn't show that.

it did

Lucifer MorningStar · 03-11-2014 01:46AM

gadgetman496 wrote: »

Who the fook is Midge?

New guy that's going to be in it next week :pac:

ProudDUB · 03-11-2014 01:48AM

Blay wrote: »

Siobhan says she was raped by Git and Nidge killed him. Look at who was there that night; Siobhan, Fran, Tommy, Darren, Nidge.

Darren is dead

Tommy is out of action

Fran is out for Nidge's blood

If Siobhan says it was Nidge who would say otherwise?

She is hardly a credible witness, is she? She was drunk as a skunk when Git raped her. Her previous fella is one of Nidge's henchmen. She seemed perfectly happy to be living with him in her posh pad, living off the proceeds of his and her uncles crimes.

Her current fella is lying in the morgue, after being found off his head on yokes (that she gave him) that caused him to "fall" from the balcony of her apartment. All this went on while her previous current fella was lying in a coma in the Mater.

Charlie Murphy is a brilliant actress and a real looker, but I think that her character is being written to play on our sympathies. I don't think a judge or jury would give a black widow like her, the time of day.

Gadgetman496 · 03-11-2014 01:48AM

Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »

New guy that's going to be in it next week :pac:

That's two new guy's next week so, I hear the second guy is called Cig :pac:

Ash.J.Williams · 03-11-2014 01:49AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

It wasn't a revelation to them tonight, but what they see as confirmation. Have a listen back to the phone conversation between Nidge and Elmo.

yeah elmo said there was something funny going on...and he was right

irishgeo · 03-11-2014 01:50AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

it did

It showed her looking at the phone and sighing , I am not sure if it showed the phone dead or was it a lack of a signal.

Ash.J.Williams · 03-11-2014 01:51AM

irishgeo wrote: »

It showed her looking at the phone and sighing , I am not sure if it showed the phone dead or was it a lack of a signal.

zoom in...it does

Witcher · 03-11-2014 01:51AM

ProudDUB wrote: »

She is hardly a credible witness, is she? She was drunk as a skunk when Git raped her. Her previous fella is one of Nidge's henchmen. She seemed perfectly happy to be living with him in her posh pad, living off the proceeds of his and her uncles crimes.

Her current fella is lying in the morgue, after being found off his head on yokes (that she gave him) that caused him to "fall" from the balcony of her apartment. All this went on while her previous current fella was lying in a coma in the Mater.

Charlie Murphy is a brilliant actress and a real looker, but I think that her character is written to play on our sympathies. I don't think a judge or jury would a black widow like her, the time of day.

Who's to say she was drunk that night and she's credible enough for Moynihan to be tapping her up for info.

irishgeo · 03-11-2014 01:51AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

zoom in...it does

I'll have to rewatch it.

Paddy2012 · 03-11-2014 01:53AM

I have a feeling Siobhan might be the one killed off next week but im not sure how, maybe one of the gardai is working for Terrance and will tip him off.

ProudDUB · 03-11-2014 01:56AM

Blay wrote: »

Who's to say she was drunk that night and she's credible enough for Moynihan to be tapping her up for info.

She was drunk in the rape scene. She was pissed as a newt all night. I remember Nidge giving out to Tommy about her & the state she was in.

She is great as a general informant alright, but I just have a hard time seeing how would be taken as a credible witness to send Nidge down, given her lifestyle in general. She is being written as an innocent victim, but her lifestyle & who she chooses to hang out with, doesn't really fit in with that.

DynamiteC101 · 03-11-2014 01:59AM

Are we allowed to discuss the trailer for the finale on this?

I know some people love total suspense, but....?

mzungu · 03-11-2014 02:00AM

Blay wrote: »

They better not try to take on young Patrick Ward, or Joe will be burying them good and deep in the back field like the last fella :pac:

:D

ProudDUB wrote: »

She is hardly a credible witness, is she? She was drunk as a skunk when Git raped her. Her previous fella is one of Nidge's henchmen. She seemed perfectly happy to be living with him in her posh pad, living off the proceeds of his and her uncles crimes.

Her current fella is lying in the morgue, after being found off his head on yokes (that she gave him) that caused him to "fall" from the balcony of her apartment. All this went on while her previous current fella was lying in a coma in the Mater.

Charlie Murphy is a brilliant actress and a real looker, but I think that her character is being written to play on our sympathies. I don't think a judge or jury would give a black widow like her, the time of day.

I mean, when you put it like that.....it sounds pretty bad. Id prefer to say that she's unlucky in love :pac:

Witcher · 03-11-2014 02:01AM

ProudDUB wrote: »

She was drunk in the rape scene. She was pissed as a newt all night. I remember Nidge giving out to Tommy about her & the state she was in.

She is great as a general informant alright, but I just have a hard time seeing how would be taken as a credible witness to send Nidge down, given her lifestyle in general. She is being written as an innocent victim, but her lifestyle doesn't really fit.

Yeah but she doesn't have to admit that in court.

Being involved in the criminal world doesn't automatically taint your evidence beyond use, if it did a lot of high profile criminals would be walking the streets because a jury couldn't trust the evidence of people who ratted them out. You'll rarely find someone with a whiter than white record and a respectable character close enough to a criminal to give useful, insider evidence in their trial.

irishgeo · 03-11-2014 02:05AM

Blay wrote: »

Yeah but she doesn't have to admit that in court.

Being involved in the criminal world doesn't automatically taint your evidence, if it did a lot of high profile criminals would be walking the streets because a jury couldn't trust the evidence of people who ratted them out.

They took the evidence of April Collins in the case of the murder of Shane geoghan.

cofy · 03-11-2014 02:06AM

We have not seen Warren in many scenes this season, maybe he will feature in the last episode of this series. Maybe Patrick gets his revenge.

03-11-2014 02:08AM

cofy wrote: »

We have not seen Warren in many scenes this season, maybe he will feature in the last episode of this series. Maybe Patrick gets his revenge.

No chance Patrick will harm warren intentionally.

cofy · 03-11-2014 02:17AM

Augeo wrote: »

No chance Patrick will harm warren intentionally.

Patricks son is not out of hospital yet, if he has a bad turn, Patrick could seek further revenge, but maybe that is too much for one episode,

DynamiteC101 · 03-11-2014 02:19AM

I think Fran will die in a car crash. He was driving away with Deans body that time, and I just feel that Fran's character is centred around the fact that he's a loose cannon. Wouldn't surprise me if he was speeding away from the cops or someone else and was in a major collision or landed in a ditch, resulting in his death.

kryogen · 03-11-2014 02:23AM

Right, I enjoyed the episode, only had one stand out moment where I felt like my intelligence was being insulted so thats not bad at all really (the dog failing to draw attention to Siobhan) well, the escape from Fran was probably worse actually but **** it, he needed to get out for the sake of the plot

Terrence bugs me, Nidge was quality tonight, the acting from TVL is top class, it really is. I still worry for Nidge with his body guard, I have said all along it was a mistake to accept Paulies man, he will never truly work for or be loyal to Nidge and it may be his undoing. Sets up the finale quite well with a big characters death pretty certain I would think for the final episode, Nidge to be given a choice between himself and someone he cares about is my guess

kryogen · 03-11-2014 02:24AM

DynamiteC101 wrote: »

Are we allowed to discuss the trailer for the finale on this?

I know some people love total suspense, but....?

For your own safety I wouldnt bother tbh

Gadgetman496 · 03-11-2014 02:32AM

DynamiteC101 wrote: »

I think Fran will die in a car crash. He was driving away with Deans body that time, and I just feel that Fran's character is centred around the fact that he's a loose cannon. Wouldn't surprise me if he was speeding away from the cops or someone else and was in a major collision or landed in a ditch, resulting in his death.

If that did happen? The cops would probably deduce that his passenger was not wearing his seat-belt, I mean, how else would he have ended up in the boot?

hatrickpatrick · 03-11-2014 02:33AM

DynamiteC101 wrote: »

Are we allowed to discuss the trailer for the finale on this?

I know some people love total suspense, but....?

kryogen wrote: »

For your own safety I wouldnt bother tbh

Go ahead and make another thread for next week, we got away with it with this week's episode.
As far as I'm concerned they can either choose between having multiple threads here or giving us a forum - this thread is moronic, hardly anyone seems to be enjoying it any more with all the chaos.

DynamiteC101 · 03-11-2014 02:37AM

gadgetman496 wrote: »

If that did happen? The cops would probably deduce that his passenger was not wearing his seat-belt, I mean, how else would he have ended up in the boot?

I might be a bit slow here haha, but I don't get what you mean?

The guards aren't just going to sit idly back while Fran is out of prison. Chances are Fran will retreat back to his caravan after burying Dean, and the cops will get word somehow that is where Fran resides. A garda car arrives up in the mountains and Fran tries to get away in his car, a high speed chase ensues which results in a major crash; Fran, and possibly a detective or undercover dead as well?

High speed chases with fatal outcomes have happened in Irish gangland before, and it hasn't been done in Love/Hate yet, from what I remember.

Ash.J.Williams · 03-11-2014 02:43AM

Peter Inexpensive Square wrote: »

The Garda getting the phone number from the phone shop, and just calling up the cop shop then seeing immediatley it text another number of a "known heroin dealer" - loada boo-hockey.

Two reasons, one there is no way they could have jumped through all the legal hoops to get access to such information in the short space of time they did and two every decent crim knows you (well first of all dont send texts in the first place!) never use the sim that comes with the phone. School boy **** there, but then again Elmo is pretty thick & what sort of a "known heroin dealer" is still using a phone number that the gards have on their system. FACE PALM.

It was so thick how he went about giving the stuff out at the horse yard too (not this episode). First of all he paid 4 or 5 youngfellas to help him dish it out, at the actual stash spot where it all was! 5 youngfellas now know/knew about this spot.
News flash, youngfellas are thick, and they talk.
He text everyone to come meet him AT THE STASH SPOT, one after the other. What did he think was going to happen if the first person who got sorted got caught? Also opening up the possibility of the place getting emptied.

Bet ya hes sorry he didn't pay one of the young fellas for that last bit!

just to debunk the first part...i watched it with a cop, and asked about the sim card and he said they would ask the shop first and usually they volunteer the info and there is no need for a court order.

Ash.J.Williams · 03-11-2014 02:44AM

by the way we had OBAMA back tonight!

Gadgetman496 · 03-11-2014 02:44AM

DynamiteC101 wrote: »

I might be a bit slow here haha, but I don't get what you mean?

You're grand, I was just saying that the fact Dean was in the boot after the crash, the cops would conclude that he mustn't have been wearing his seatbelt :pac:

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