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Interstellar (Christopher Nolan) *SPOILERS FROM POST 458 ONWARDS*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    More well known filmmakers given it rave reviews on Twitter

    "Interstellar is bold & ballsy. Huge ideas done in a concrete grounded way, and some of the finest space travel spectacle this side of 2001" Rian Johnson

    "Saw 'Interstellar' for a second time projected on IMAX film. Truly an magnificent film. Emotional, visually stunning. See it large and loud." Edgar Wright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    e_e wrote: »
    I could see it in Cineworld with my Unlimited card but will choose either Lighthouse or Savoy 1 instead.

    Or maybe even a suburban cinema so I have less of a chance of dealing with annoying patrons.

    I doubt annoying patrons will bother with this if has to make them think e_e :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    I've decided never to see a huge film on opening day in Cineworld again because of the super annoying experience I had watching Guardians of the Galaxy a few months back. Saw Gone Girl on first day in my local multiplex and it was bliss tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭SachaJ


    e_e wrote: »
    Yeah very comfy seats, big main screen and good projection quality. IMO the best cinema in Dublin.

    How does it compare to the Odeon in Point Village? Never seen the anything in "iSense" but wouldn't mind seeing what Dolby Atmos is like (mainly as I'm considering wiring sitting room for it).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    SachaJ wrote: »
    How does it compare to the Odeon in Point Village? Never seen the anything in "iSense" but wouldn't mind seeing what Dolby Atmos is like (mainly as I'm considering wiring sitting room for it).


    Don't think interstellar used atmos for sound, you should check out a movie that did use it at a screen that has it setup though, supposed to be great. The latest Transformers is the last one I heard about using it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,602 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Can,t wait to see this film. I actually thought it was out on the 7th of this month and was really disapointed when I realised I still had a month to wait. Am looking forward to seeing this in the biggest screen possible in 2D. I have no interest in that other format.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    AMKC wrote: »
    Can,t wait to see this film. I actually thought it was out on the 7th of this month and was really disapointed when I realised I still had a month to wait. Am looking forward to seeing this in the biggest screen possible in 2D. I have no interest in that other format.

    It's not in 3D anyway, Nolan thinks that's a silly gimmick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,380 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Any preview screenings anywhere in Dublin on the Thursday night?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    It's not in 3D anyway, Nolan thinks that's a silly gimmick


    and he's right !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,602 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AMKC
    Can,t wait to see this film. I actually thought it was out on the 7th of this month and was really disapointed when I realised I still had a month to wait. Am looking forward to seeing this in the biggest screen possible in 2D. I have no interest in that other format.

    It's not in 3D anyway, Nolan thinks that's a silly gimmick

    Delighted means I might get to see this on the bigger screens in 2D eg the IMax and the I Sense. Just got to decide which one to see it in. Would love to see it in both but might not get too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    I watched 2001 A space Odyssey the other night - while an enjoyable film,
    I hope Nolan doesn't draw too much from it - the last thing we need is a great film with a crazy ending


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,690 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The crazier the ending the better. I’d love a modern sci-fi film with a ballsy third act like 2001. I can’t really think of any that don’t fall back on genre conventions in their final third.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    The crazier the ending the better. I’d love a modern sci-fi film with a ballsy third act like 2001. I can’t really think of any that don’t fall back on genre conventions in their final third.
    Just read a review saying that it's like the end of 2001 with somebody standing there explaining everything that happens. I seriously hope not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Haven't disliked a Nolan film to date so I'll be taking the responses so far with a pinch of salt. Hell I even enjoyed Transcendence. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007



    From the few reviews that have been released so far, It seems to range from brilliant to Not Nolan's best to outright dislike (Indiewire reviewer gave it a D, although reading it he wasn't a Nolan fan walking in).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    e_e wrote: »
    Haven't disliked a Nolan film to date so I'll be taking the responses so far with a pinch of salt. Hell I even enjoyed Transcendence. :pac:

    Well I've only seen 4 reviews, You got one brilliant (the one posted), Two alright and one hated it. But as you say take it with a pinch of salt and check it out yourself but I could see this splitting a lot of opinion.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    e_e wrote: »
    Haven't disliked a Nolan film to date so I'll be taking the responses so far with a pinch of salt. Hell I even enjoyed Transcendence. :pac:

    Ha, Transcendence didn't deserve half the kicking it got from critics: it wasn't great, and had some pacing and narrative issues, but ultimately was a decent enough old-school, 'big ideas' sci-fi tale. Utopian as well, which never goes down well with modern thinking :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,690 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Excellent review by David Ehrlich, one of the few critics whose reviews I bother reading in full. He had some issues but calls it the best blockbuster of the year.
    Interstellar is by far the best and most comprehensively satisfying big-budget spectacle of the year... and that’s a serious problem. The cosmic margin by which Christopher Nolan’s latest film eclipses its competition forces it to double as an unsettling reminder of how unimpressive such a feat has become. Nolan has made a career of exposing the poverty of our current blockbuster cinema, and not since Inception has a film of this size evinced a narrative ambition on par with that of its scale (with the possible exception of independently financed bomb, Cloud Atlas), but it was never going to be any other way.

    http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/interstellar-28347


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    e_e wrote: »
    Haven't disliked a Nolan film to date so I'll be taking the responses so far with a pinch of salt. Hell I even enjoyed Transcendence. :pac:

    Wasn't that directed by Wally Pfister ?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,479 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    60% on RT after 11 reviews I think, too early to go changing any expectations yet though. Sometimes a film being a bit divisive can be good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    After trying to organise a small day trip to London to see this at the BFI 70mm IMAX it ended up being a bit too hectic and expensive so I found out the Manchester 70mm IMAX screen is only slightly smaller and there was a lot less tickets booked and return flights were only €29, only bad thing is I'll have to wait until Wednesday the 12th. Have only heard great things about the IMAX scenes of space and planets and soundtrack so even if the story was sh!t I'd still be happy.


    Cannot wait!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Wasn't that directed by Wally Pfister ?
    Yep, but tangentially related to Nolan in terms of their previous collaberations, the film's ideas and the overall look to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Some ponce on the Guardian has given it 3/5 .... very dissapointing ...

    I think i'll ignore reviews from now on --- @Sad Professor - you serious about 2001 ending being ballsy ???

    You didn't think the star child in orbit was a bit too out there ?

    He could have done the same transition in a different way..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Some ponce on the Guardian has given it 3/5 .... very dissapointing ...

    Is he a ponce because he gave it 3/5?
    Like a lot of people, I have high expectations for it; doesn't mean it will deliver, at least not for everyone.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,690 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Some ponce on the Guardian has given it 3/5 .... very dissapointing ...

    I think i'll ignore reviews from now on --- @Sad Professor - you serious about 2001 ending being ballsy ???

    You didn't think the star child in orbit was a bit too out there ?

    He could have done the same transition in a different way..

    The star child is symbolic and shouldn’t be taken literally. That Kubrick ended an otherwise very realistic film in such an abstract way was, yeah, pretty ballsy IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Just read a negative review from a critic I quite like (Alonso Duralde) and whoo boy are the comments a cesspit. I love how people are already getting indignant over a negative review of a film they haven't even feckin' seen yet.

    The same thing happened when Dark Knight Rises came out. What's the deal with some Nolan fan(atic)s?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,479 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    e_e wrote: »
    Just read a negative review from a critic I quite like (Alonso Duralde) and whoo boy are the comments a cesspit. I love how people are already getting indignant over a negative review of a film they haven't even feckin' seen yet.

    The same thing happened when Dark Knight Rises came out. What's the deal with some Nolan fan(atic)s?

    Do you remember the car crash DKR thread on here? Good times :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Yep, let's not forget too that that was the film that was responsible for Rotten Tomatoes shutting down comments on reviews. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    e_e wrote: »
    Yep, let's not forget too that that was the film that was responsible for Rotten Tomatoes shutting down comments on reviews. :D

    That's quite a pity!
    I think the first time I ever dabbled in comments was The Dark Knight.
    I saw that it had gotten knocked from a 96% - 95% based on one new review a few months after the movie came out.

    "I can't believe you knocked it down a percent"
    "This movie deserved 96, and you've ruined it. Hope you're proud"
    There were other less polite comments.

    If I was to criticise one thing about Chris Nolan; he brings the worst out of Chris Nolan fans!!!

    Recently was put in charge of the rota in work, what's the first thing I do?
    Put myself in all day on the 7th November. Schoolboy stuff!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    The fun part about a new Nolan film is the rabid response from those who attack others for disliking a film of his :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I'm enjoying this thread while it's still viable as a legitimate source of debate, taking in the dripfeed of info coming from these early reviews. Once the movie hits, I expect it to follow suit with all Nolan based threads and turn into a sh*tstorm of fanatics and contrariness. It's going to be great :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Some ponce on the Guardian has given it 3/5 .... very dissapointing ...

    I think i'll ignore reviews from now on --- @Sad Professor - you serious about 2001 ending being ballsy ???

    You didn't think the star child in orbit was a bit too out there ?

    He could have done the same transition in a different way..

    Don't be so ridiculously insulting. Whatever happened to having an opinion on something? Keep scouring those reviews, I'm sure you'll find one that meets your requirements....of a film that you haven't seen yet.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,901 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Bizarrely, the Guardian comment section underneath the middling review seems to be the 'everyone hates Christopher Nolan' club - reading the first page and you'd swear he's widely considered as a joke. The internet is a confusing place sometimes, and doubly so when it comes to this man's films.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Maybe it has come up in other threads, discussed elsewhere with consensus reached, but I do wonder what it is about Nolan and his form that he causes such outrage and zealous defense to the point of internet meltdown? I can't think of another high-profile director that causes the same levels of seismic arguments and vitriol, yet with each Nolan flick, the same arguments come out. It's weird.

    People can debate the merits or failings of a crowd-pleasing auteur like Scorsese in relative peace and happiness, yet with Nolan? Dear god you better nail wood against the windows because it's going to get vicious out there.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,479 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Maybe it has come up in other threads, discussed elsewhere with consensus reached, but I do wonder what it is about Nolan and his form that he causes such outrage and zealous defense to the point of internet meltdown? I can't think of another high-profile director that causes the same levels of seismic arguments and vitriol, yet with each Nolan flick, the same arguments come out. It's weird.

    People can debate the merits or failings of a crowd-pleasing auteur like Scorsese in relative peace and happiness, yet with Nolan? Dear god you better nail wood against the windows because it's going to get vicious out there.

    I think it's because when he's good he's very very good. That plus the fact that most of his films are sci-fi or Batman, hell hath no fury than a geek scorned :P


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,901 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Christopher Nolan films are, above all, different - when the blockbuster films that are very obviously the result of a singular director rather than a committee are thin on the ground (Gravity probably being the last one - even stuff like Edge of Tomorrow could effectively have been directed by anyone that was sufficiently competent, and that's doubly true of Marvel films), Christopher Nolan undoubtedly stands out. And as with almost everything that is 'different', there will always be detractors, and there will always be supporters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Christopher Nolan films are, above all, different - when the blockbuster films that are very obviously the result of a singular director rather than a committee are thin on the ground (Gravity probably being the last one - even stuff like Edge of Tomorrow could effectively have been directed by anyone that was sufficiently competent, and that's doubly true of Marvel films), Christopher Nolan undoubtedly stands out. And as with almost everything that is 'different', there will always be detractors, and there will always be supporters.

    A bit harsh on Edge of Tomorrow, I think. I'm not saying it's necessarily a brilliant film but it is a really good example of a modern blockbuster done right.

    And from what I've read it was Liman who insisted on two aspects that were critical to it's success - the insistence on as much 'in camera' action as possible and the generous sprinkling of humour.

    But I get your general point - allot of directors are brought in with the 'package' already well developed. They have to sell to the producers/studios that they can deliver on the package they're touting for. Even with Edge of Tomorrow, Cruise made clear in interviews that he was involved in hiring Liman for the film - he was already down to star in and produce it.

    Very rare for directors to have the vision and clout to develop their films from the ground up the way Nolan and Cameron do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,422 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Why would ye read reviews? By all means dig deep into review city after you've seen it yourself, but I'd hate to create the possibility that any critical idea is lingering in my mind while watching the film.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,901 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    quad_red wrote: »
    A bit harsh on Edge of Tomorrow, I think. I'm not saying it's necessarily a brilliant film but it is a really good example of a modern blockbuster done right.

    And from what I've read it was Liman who insisted on two aspects that were critical to it's success - the insistence on as much 'in camera' action as possible and the generous sprinkling of humour.

    But I get your general point - allot of directors are brought in with the 'package' already well developed. They have to sell to the producers/studios that they can deliver on the package they're touting for. Even with Edge of Tomorrow, Cruise made clear in interviews that he was involved in hiring Liman for the film - he was already down to star in and produce it.

    Very rare for directors to have the vision and clout to develop their films from the ground up the way Nolan and Cameron do.

    I definitely wouldn't go as far as saying Doug Liman had no role in Edge of Tomorrow's success (although I thought it was a limited success: an inventive first half let down significantly by a lesser second, but that's an argument for another thread ;)). Those two aspects, especially the humour, are not insignificant in allowing Edge of Tomorrow become something better than average. But I also think that if you took the same script, the same cast etc... and handed it to another solid but ultimately unremarkable director (say someone like Neill Blomkamp or Matt Reeves, to pick two examples of the top of my head) you'd more than likely end up with a film that wouldn't be particularly better or worse or radically different to Liman's effort. If, purely hypothetically, you handed it to Christopher Nolan, James Cameron or even Michael Bay (we can say what we want, but the man is an 'auteur'), you would I'd expect end up with a very different film, and one that would be influenced more directly by the director. (I actually think I'm just agreeing with you there :P)

    Put it this way: while Interstellar will likely give academics and critics more to consider and ponder on when looking at Christopher Nolan's wider filmography, Edge of Tomorrow doesn't really feed into our knowledge of Doug Liman's style and concerns. Sadly Hollywood is dominated by workmanlike directors (often through no fault of their own, but merely the machinations of the industry) - who might well do a very good job given the limitations they're working with, but will ultimately never transcend them. A handful of directors - I'm thinking Brad Bird and JJ Abrams - thrive within the blockbuster realm, as their aesthetics particularly suit a grand canvas. People like Christopher Nolan and Alfonso Cuaron, though, are operating on a different level altogether, which as the Little White Lies article articulates well, can be a bit disheartening, even if ultimately you're not a fan of the films themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Don't be so ridiculously insulting. Whatever happened to having an opinion on something? Keep scouring those reviews, I'm sure you'll find one that meets your requirements....of a film that you haven't seen yet.


    Come on , don't take me so seriously, It's tongue in cheek humour here .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭eyeball kid


    I'm over in London the week after next so decided to book a ticket to see this in the BFI Imax. Can't wait, have never been in an Imax screening before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,380 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    So this is not going to be near the Batman trilogy, it is more in line with The Prestige and Inception, and what I took from those movies are that I enjoyed them the first time but had to watch them again and again and got something new each time I watch them. The only reviewer I will forward to reading his thoughts on Interstellar will be Mark Kamode. I look forward to seeing this and making my own mind up!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    So this is not going to be near the Batman trilogy, it is more in line with The Prestige and Inception, and what I took from those movies are that I enjoyed them the first time but had to watch them again and again and got something new each time I watch them. The only reviewer I will forward to reading his thoughts on Interstellar will be Mark Kamode. I look forward to seeing this and making my own mind up!

    Another thing, I kind of disliked how on the posters and ads they only say 'Director of The Dark Knight Trilogy' instead of The Prestige and Inception, they could've at least included a mention of those. Not a big deal but it'd be good for people who are unaware of Nolan's past movies. 'Director of Memento and The Prestige' as a title would be the best for him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    So this is not going to be near the Batman trilogy, it is more in line with The Prestige and Inception, and what I took from those movies are that I enjoyed them the first time but had to watch them again and again and got something new each time I watch them. The only reviewer I will forward to reading his thoughts on Interstellar will be Mark Kamode. I look forward to seeing this and making my own mind up!


    suits me, greatest film ever made imo ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    Bizarrely, the Guardian comment section underneath the middling review seems to be the 'everyone hates Christopher Nolan' club - reading the first page and you'd swear he's widely considered as a joke. The internet is a confusing place sometimes, and doubly so when it comes to this man's films.

    Guardian is a bit of snobbish place to be fair johnny (they were taking pot shots at the reviewer who gave Inherent Vice a 5 star review, calling Anderson a hack and how dare he adapt thomas pynchon ) I think the reviewer reading his review isn't much of a Nolan fan before this so it doesn't help :pac:.

    All top directors even Kubrick (2001 and many of his films after weren't loved by the critics) so its a strange old world when it comes to punters and critics. some directors are bulletproof and I think Nolan is at the forefront at that. Some critics want to be "cool" and take pot shots but some give thoughtful and great opinions on why they don't like it, although apart from Indiewire I haven't seen truly hateful reviews some critics just didn't give it 5/5 or an A, so some think its a bad thing.

    Nolan is a genius director (sorry I am a Fan boy :pac:) and apart from him and Paul Thomas Anderson, they are the only directors that films are Events for me that push the limits of filmmaking in Hollywood. They deliver Art. I think The Dark Knight Trilogy (yes the Dark Knight Rises has faults), Memento, The Prestige and Inception are some of the greatest films produced in America cinema and they are smart and don't dumb down things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    Another thing, I kind of disliked how on the posters and ads they only say 'Director of The Dark Knight Trilogy' instead of The Prestige and Inception, they could've at least included a mention of those. Not a big deal but it'd be good for people who are unaware of Nolan's past movies. 'Director of Memento and The Prestige' as a title would be the best for him


    Well Those films made the big money and bought in normal non cinepiles (although Inception made over 900 million). I still think The Prestige is hugely underrated and Memento is one of the greatest film ever made in the 00's. They would work better on the poster but I see why the studios and PR people did it as a normal punter would know Nolan for the Batman films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    And as with almost everything that is 'different', there will always be detractors, and there will always be supporters.

    Wait once everyone sees it once the release on November 7th, I think this thread will end up the busiest and most split opinion thread on the Film Forum :pac:. Nolan films always brings in the biggest detractors I've ever seen for a filmmaker. The Dark Knight Rises thread was one of the most argumentative threads I think we ever had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    the_monkey wrote: »
    suits me, greatest film ever made imo ...

    Seconded!

    All you have to do is check every "Best Movie Ever" thread etc and you'll find me say as much!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    I'm presuming there will be separate threads for Seen and Not Seen


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