Man shot dead inside Canadian parliament

hotmail.com · 22-10-2014 11:10PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

Do you understand why nobody agrees with you?
It should be obvious

You are unable to back up your points. So there's an issue with them.

Sunnyisland · 22-10-2014 11:11PM

Nodin wrote: »

What is the precise nature of your problem? It really is hard to see what you're complaining about?

The problem for senior hotmail is that he can't see the Forrest because of the trees.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 22-10-2014 11:12PM

DublinWriter wrote: »

...up until now.

With that logic, everybody should be armed.

branie2 · 22-10-2014 11:12PM

To be honest, you wouldn't expect this sort of thing in Canada

Jamsiek · 22-10-2014 11:12PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

You are unable to back up your points. So there's an issue with them.

Not obvious to you it seems

hotmail.com · 22-10-2014 11:12PM

Nodin wrote: »

What is the precise nature of your problem? It really is hard to see what you're complaining about?

In a nut shell, the media's reaction to these types of events, the fear it subsequently causes and the extreme contrast to the treatment of the killing of people by US and British forces in the Middle East which numbers into the hundreds of thousands.

wp_rathead · 22-10-2014 11:14PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Reread my posts.

I get what you are saying (I think) in relation to media covering of mass shooting- especially surrounding High Schools. Experts agree that there should be minimal coverage, and that coverage focusing on the victims not the killer..

..but surely you understand a shooting in a parliament building is a massive deal and deserves attention

Sunnyisland · 22-10-2014 11:16PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a nut shell, the media's reaction to these types of events, the fear it subsequently causes and the extreme contrast to the treatment of the killing of people by US and British forces in the Middle East which numbers into the hundreds of thousands.

So you still think it's a non story ?

hotmail.com · 22-10-2014 11:19PM

wprathead wrote: »

I get what you are saying (I think) in relation to media covering of mass shooting- especially surrounding High Schools. Experts agree that there should be minimal coverage, and that coverage focusing on the victims not the killer..

..but surely you understand a shooting in a parliament building is a massive deal and deserves attention

Attention yes, but not the attention it's receiving on the broadcast news programmes and news websites. I don't believe it is worthy of being the top story for example.

I generally think the coverage of American mass shootings on this side of the Atlantic is ridiculous.

fedor.2. · 22-10-2014 11:20PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Attention yes, but not the attention it's receiving on the broadcast news programmes and news websites. I don't believe it is worthy of being the top story for example.

I generally think the coverage of American mass shootings on this side of the Atlantic is ridiculous.

Canada

Nodin · 22-10-2014 11:23PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a nut shell, the media's reaction to these types of events, the fear it subsequently causes and the extreme contrast to the treatment of the killing of people by US and British forces in the Middle East which numbers into the hundreds of thousands.

Somebody tried to shoot up the Canadian Parliament. Canadian HQ. The place with the politicians and leaders in it. Are you genuinely incapable of grasping the significance of that?

mackg · 22-10-2014 11:24PM

Vicente Inexpensive Smooch wrote: »

With that logic, everybody should be armed.

*pumps shotgun*

hotmail.com · 22-10-2014 11:28PM

Nodin wrote: »

Somebody tried to shoot up the Canadian Parliament. Canadian HQ. The place with the politicians and leaders in it. Are you genuinely incapable of grasping the significance of that?

So if a similar event happened in the parliament of Botswana, would you want a similar media reaction?

Nodin · 22-10-2014 11:30PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

So if a similar event happened in the parliament of Botswana, would you want a similar media reaction?

"would I want"? Why the fuck wouldn't I?

hotmail.com · 22-10-2014 11:31PM

Nodin wrote: »

"would I want"? Why the fuck wouldn't I?

You're missing my point.

Nodin · 22-10-2014 11:32PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

You're missing my point.

What is your point then, might I ask?

22-10-2014 11:33PM

I have to say I really love the Canadian response though compared to what the American response would have been.

hotmail.com · 22-10-2014 11:35PM

Nodin wrote: »

"would I want"? Why the fuck wouldn't I?

Nodin wrote: »

What is your point then, might I ask?

Your point about it happening at a parliament.

If a similar incident happened in Africa, South or Central America, large parts of Asia etc, this wouldn't be even mentioned.

Nodin · 22-10-2014 11:36PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Your point about it happening at a parliament.

If a similar incident happened in Africa, South or Central America, large parts of Asia etc, this wouldn't be even mentioned.

Yes, it would.

branie2 · 22-10-2014 11:36PM

If it happened in Dublin, it would definitely be mentioned

Sunnyisland · 22-10-2014 11:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I have to say I really love the Canadian response though compared to what the American response would have been.

Are Canadians not Americans to ? The term Americans has been generalised to just the U.S. Which imo is wrong :-)

drumswan · 22-10-2014 11:40PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

You're missing my point.

Thats because you are a spastic incapable of making a coherent point

Mod: Banned

Sunnyisland · 22-10-2014 11:43PM

branie2 wrote: »

If it happened in Dublin, it would definitely be mentioned

If gunmen/man stormed any parliament/government building in the world it would get amble media interest throughout the world, I mean that's the point of it, to get attention.

I can see where senior Hotmail is coming from but to come into the thread and say this is a non story etc etc is well a non story. Night.

liz lemoncello · 22-10-2014 11:44PM

realies wrote: »

Are Canadians not Americans to ? The term Americans has been generalised to just the U.S. Which imo is wrong :-)

As there is no other single-word term used to describe citizens of the US, "American" does refer only to citizens of the US. The rest of are Canadian, Mexican etc, or North American.

wexie · 22-10-2014 11:53PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

What is militant Islamism?

Is there militant Protestants? Militant Catholics?

militant
adjective
1. vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause:
militant reformers.
2. engaged in warfare; fighting.

so errr....yes indeed, I think you might find there is quite a history of militant Protestants and Catholics....

In this very country even

Roger Hassenforder · 23-10-2014 12:53AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Your point about it happening at a parliament.

If a similar incident happened in Africa, South or Central America, large parts of Asia etc, this wouldn't be even mentioned.

you might recall the attack on the Indian Parliament in 2001. 12 people died.
Or the attack on the Armenian Parliament in 1999. 8 people including the prime minister were killed...both got significant coverage, in the pre-twitter age.
Or you might not, maybe you are but a callow youth, and it doesn't fit nicely into your anti-american/"western imperialism"/anti mainstream media agenda.

It is a big deal, and is getting the attention it rightly deserves.

Berserker · 23-10-2014 12:58AM

realies wrote: »

Are Canadians not Americans to ? The term Americans has been generalised to just the U.S. Which imo is wrong :-)

No, they are not, to give you a very simple and short response. Granted they don't get too upset about the comparison, as they are very comfortable about their national identity but a Canadian is not the same as an American. My OH is Canadian and I call her a 'fake-American' as a tease now and again. Terrible to hear about this incident in Ottawa. A nice, classy response from the Canadians. Can't wait to move there.

Roger Hassenforder · 23-10-2014 01:03AM

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/22/canadian-parliament-lockdown-shooting#block-54481d32e4b0f2548d3f4b75

"The deceased gunman has been identified as Michael Zehaf-Bibeau by CBS, ABC and CTV and CBC, variously quoting intelligence officials...a Canadian born in 1982 and who reportedly converted to Islam...

What is it with people born in 1982...?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/22/nathan-cirillo-photo_n_6031290.html

23-10-2014 01:23AM

realies wrote: »

Are Canadians not Americans to ? The term Americans has been generalised to just the U.S. Which imo is wrong :-)

Course it is.

AngryHippie · 23-10-2014 01:28AM

Any one got any idea what the motivation was ?

Anything to do with the anti-fracking protest that was cleared by riot police and dogs last week ?

Man shot dead inside Canadian parliament

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